Tina Fey on Good Hang with Amy Poehler

hey everyone this is Amy polar this is

the first episode of my podcast thank

you for being here I'd like to be five

or six years late to any Trend um it

only gets better from here but or it

only goes down from here I don't know

we'll see I just I just want to make it

clear I am not an expert I'm not a

therapist I'm not here to change your

life I don't care if you get any better

um I don't have advice for you I just I

just want us to have fun and lighten up

a little and I don't know I want us to

feel like they there's

um there's a way to have laughs amid all

of the craziness that is life so if

you're listening to this while you're

working out or folding laundry or maybe

you're sitting in your car avoiding your

kids maybe you're listening to this I

don't know in your uh you know in-laws

basement next to the bow Flex machine

and it's Christmas and you're

questioning the choices you've made in

life whatever it is this is a show here

to um to have fun and make you laugh and

um I'm not here to judge okay so my

guest today is Tina Fay um Tina is my

wife really in life she is my comedy

partner in many ways and she has um you

know I talk about it in the podcast a

little bit but she has been along this

journey with me we've really experienced

a lot of things together at the same

time in life sometimes I I feel like

Tina and I are kind of a a group with

two members and we've had a lot of

parallel things happen at the same time

kids and TV shows and career and we're

lucky enough to still like each other

and want a tour together so uh we're GNA

talk and um hang out and like any good

hang you want to make sure that anyone's

invited so without further Ado uh here

are some of my fave people Seth Meyers

Fred armison Rachel drach and zarag gar

a great standup and friend who's been

joining Tina and I on the road and see

if they have any questions for Tina

anything they think I should ask her and

honestly I just want to check in and and

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zarag gar Seth Meyers Fred armison

Rachel dra welcome to Good hang thank

you for being it's great to be here it's

been a great hang so far everything

happened before the intro has been great

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bang okay it's been a good

hang I'm ready

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oh my God okay so my first guest is

Tina Tina Fay um and you all know Tina

really well so I guess my question to

you is what would you want to hear her

talk about on this podcast or any

podcast she doesn't do a lot of them her

dad

was uh really good at caricatures mhm so

are there any other artistic uh talents

that she got from her dad because Tina's

good at caricatures too like drawing but

how do you put that into like a question

for her I guess it's more like

um did she get that from her dad or like

how much other like I remember him being

really funny in his own way too yeah so

um she is an intimidating president

Tina like you know people are nervous

around her I was nervous around her when

I first met her I wonder if she ever

gets asked like the she's intimidating

in the way that a man would be to me but

I wonder if she ever gets asked like the

girl questions like what dress are you

going to wear something she deals with

at all or do people just go to her like

oh no this is not a Tina question do you

want me to ask her the dress question

ask her the dress question Seth I'll ask

her I like that and can you do it can

you whisper it in in like a phone call

late at night can you say what dress

what dress are you going to

wear hey zarna zarna wants to know um I

know you guys your time is limited so I

won't keep you much longer but um just

before we go you are all doing tons of

podcasts hosting them in them like what

what advice do you have for me as I

launch I just know from knowing you that

like whenever you ask people questions

in real

life you really are interested and

you're just on like the Cliff of like

giving a hint as to what your opinion

is just not too much but just enough so

it like it's really uh it just draws you

in so there's no advice I'm just like

every time you ask me a question I'm

like oh I think Amy's really asking me a

question is it is it that sounds kind of

leading the witness a little bit no no

no no no it's more like um this is going

to be a fun conversation so for example

this is not a real thing you be like so

you really like Landing in London like

that's like a good airport to land

in and I'm like

oh something's this is about to be a

conversation about what I think you're

very good at not letting sometimes you

help turn people away from the negative

narrative that they might want to lay

out to you so you're really good friend

and that you listen and I think you can

tell when people just need to like

unburden themselves with something but I

feel like more than maybe anyone else I

know you're very good at saying can I

invite you to look at this a different

way that maybe some feedback not even

feedback it's more like I just I you

know it's not like this is how you

should but like you're telling me

something and I see how you're seeing it

but like can I just ask you to maybe see

it this way where you won't be as hard

on yourself and you won't be as

sad about it I don't know I feel like

you've always been very good that way

thanks but you know you don't you have

like a regular voice that you you're not

using right now do you want to do your

real voice oh yeah I'll do my real voice

okay hey

guys oh it's so was so hard to do my

other voice that's it hurts rightt it

hurts anyway so great that you guys are

doing this today uh I love you and I

have to go I'm so sorry yeah go go I

love you thank you for doing this

I have to go too everyone's G to go I it

means the world that you guys did this

thank you for letting me like start this

is like the ground floor thanks for

being there for me with this and so many

other things I can't wait to see you all

in person very soon I really love you

guys thanks so much for doing it love

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10 Tina thank you for being on the first

official podcast that I have ever done

for good hang it is my absolute pleasure

I really really appreciate it buddy You'

have done many things for me over the

years um including getting most of the

jobs that I helping me get most of the

jobs that I have and the career that I

have but this means the most this means

the most okay

great but I am kind of nervous why well

I mean I guess it's funny to talk to

your friends that you've known for so

long and then interview them I guess but

we should probably I guess we should

probably picture this as like I'm going

to picture that there's a room full of

like I'm going to picture like there's

an audience okay and not just Jenna yeah

because it's the only way I can get off

no I'm just kidding I just step on your

neck and talk to you you know what also

I sometimes when I hear things like this

back I go oh my was why was my voice so

nasal and annoying so should we just

take a little minute to just just Let's

us warm up our

voices do you remember the the character

that um Kenan did on SNL where he was a

guy saying just fix it remember he was

like a he was like a New Yorker that

just kept going fix it no I don't

remember that I remember him saying let

me hold that baby do you remember that

character did that air I don't know it

was a really funny it was almost like a

premise for a short story where he was

just like a sweet old man in a train

station and then somebody was a young

host was there with her baby and he was

she was like chatting with him and then

he just goes let me hold that baby and

it was her dilemma was like I don't

actually know this man like should I let

him hold my baby what if he runs away

what if he smashes it like a basketball

into the ground let me hold that

baby okay but you don't do a lot of

podcasts I don't do a lot I'm very I'm

very selective my podcast work I

appreciate that and you were so good on

Bowen and Matt's oh my gosh it was so

funny thank you I that is one podcast

that I do listen to and enjoy that and

dra anything dra says um those guys are

funny but I felt a lot of pressure I

went in there knowing like you have to

do that one minute thing at the end and

I I um something I think about a lot and

I fall short of it constantly but a

million years ago

uh was a writer still at SNL and I

remember Steve Martin came to do

something on the show he wasn't hosting

but he came to the show and he had just

he had just been on Letterman the night

before and I said oh hi how you doing I

said oh my gosh you were so funny on

Letterman last night and he just very

matter ofly said oh well you have to

kill every

time and that has haunted

me every day since and he's right and

it's like oh right like if you're a

beautiful actress from I don't know like

melrose's place no just whatever like

you're just a beautiful actress you can

go on and be like I went to the store

once but if you're a comedy person you

have to kill every time yeah oh God have

you ever I mean I I think I know the

answer to this but I feel like I've

never got really gotten a job from an

audition ever oh um you feel like you've

gone into an audition for something and

nailed it and been like I got

it no no no never because again I'm not

really so interesting on paper like I

remember going to commercial auditions

in Chicago and we had friends at that

time Chicago was a thriving town for

commercials I don't know if it still is

but there were you know huge ad agencies

where based there and they would shoot

things in Chicago and a lot of people

that we worked with at Second City would

get a lot of work that would pay for

their whole year you know um I did a

little bit of voiceover work um I had a

pager remember you'd have a pager be

like guys my page is blowing up I might

have a voiceover audition downtown I got

to go there was a casting director in

Chicago um who shall not be named who

was a commercial casting director and I

had kind of wonky teeth um so it was

this kind of thing where we'd go out for

this remember the term bite and smile

yes so you'd pretend a bite into a

hamburger and then be like you'd smile

yeah yeah and it was it could change

your life if you got you could pay for

like three years of your low rent yeah

and I knew right away that there with my

teeth I was never going to get a bite

and smile like there was no way a brand

would be associated with my teeth um and

this casting director just to get to

know people would ask them what's your

most embarrassing moment to get you to

yes and I had a

full uh like I got probably nervous in

that moment but I was like no thank you

I like didn't want to tell her my most

embarrassing moment by the way that's

insane like that's that's that's one of

the that's a tiny micro version of when

we try to explain the 99s to younger

people of like how so many things you

like oh that lady would literally be

fired and tried in front of a jury for

asking you that in the workplace um I

had a a bite and smile type thing where

it was a McDonald's audition um and uh

and everything always was like okay so

take you know two trains and a thing and

get weighed out to wherever this

audition is and then you get there and

you and it was for some new kind of

happy or drive-thru meal whatever and I

went all the way to the thing and I got

there and I realized as we were going

into the session like oh this this

commercial is for a person pulling into

a

drive-thru and I have this you know scar

on the left side of my face that's way

faded now but it was much more prominent

then I was like s similar to the tea

thing I was like guess who's not going

to book this pulling up to the

drive-through with my short hair with

the perm on top and a big scar and uh

and I just remember in the thing being

up like pulling into like in the chair

like scooting like I'm in the drivethru

being like I'll have the fish Fila meal

and my scar will have an orange soda and

then just

leaving you were like you're not going

to reject me I'm going to I'm going to

re you I'm going to reject you like what

are we doing here I traveled 45 minutes

each way I mean we talk about work a lot

and when we're together I think we work

together really well what is your

relationship to work and has it changed

I I think it has changed I am work based

person like that's if I were an animal I

would be like a carriage horse I think

you know just like you know how they say

like oh no these some or like some kinds

of dogs like no they want to work or

they'll go insane so I am I am that kind

of animal I think but I also I have just

just recently really recently found that

I have because I went through such a

stretch for so many decades where I was

like you go to work for 12 to 13 hours

and then you come home and you you know

you try to be with your family till they

go to sleep and then you're like then

you got to do your homework and I've

only in the last year or two had Windows

of time we like I don't have homework

tonight I can just be a person in this

world and maybe like watch a program do

you feel like you can actually enjoy it

in that moment I can although it's still

you know I think any other writer would

say this too that the only the closest I

can get to joy and peace is like the 36

hours after I've turned something in cuz

that's the only time when you're like I

did it I really I don't have any

homework but I'm still a very good good

Carriage horse because I did my work yes

and then after like a 36 hours it creeps

back in of like okay I'm going to get

notes back or I'm I should go skep ahead

to the next thing I will say though I

did go back to work this fall uh on a

set for the first time in a long time

and it was actually and I and and I

worked hard to build it to be a really

healthy set and

really like Humane hours and and it was

nice to

be um among other humans and making

something I also was

extremely purposeful about bringing

together people who I believed were good

people who would not make any trouble

for me yes and it really made a

difference I feel like that's the that's

success success that's a luxury is

getting to be to realize I only if I can

want to work with people who I know will

not think that chaos is how to be

creative it's how to be creative and you

know I think um uh as so many Tik Tok

stories we won't go into which ones but

people are like hearing about movie sets

and being like that's crazy what's

happening there I was like that's not

that crazy like that's yeah pretty like

movies espe

are about just people going crazy and

acting out and then one or two people

trying to

harvest series of photographs of those

people that can be assembled into a film

but it's mostly yeah poorly behaved

crazy people being indulged by various

parties and and we have seen and worked

at places and this is no you know big

scoop like SNL is one of them where

people come in with their system of how

they like to work and they like when

they're nervous or insecure are often

not at their best and the way they act

is

wild because they're nervous or insecure

yeah people get insecurity makes people

behave wildly I even have learned to

realize that we talk about relationship

to work that I have now learned that I

get very very grouchy and nervous when

something has to be written because it

is like having a stomach flu MH and

you're like it's the sick you feel

before you either

eject it one way or the other like and

it just really it's got to come out one

end grouchy until it comes out um and I

can at least see that pattern but

doesn't prevent it from happening but

I'm like okay here's what's happening

right now I feel that way about when I'm

in a situation where I don't feel like

there's a strong

leader like I where I'm being directed

by someone who doesn't quite know yeah

what they're doing or there's but

there's no one telling us what to do

like there's no one in control I have

that grouchiness where I feel like I'm

going to I'm either going to have to

take over here or I'm going to have to

dis like you know check out yeah and

I've been in a couple projects we like

week one I'm like oh no like we don't

have a captain like this ship is going

down and you can see months ahead yep

how do you yeah I don't even know how do

you you just kind of I guess you just

watch funny videos in your trailer yeah

I think the one way is yeah you shut

down mhm and the other way is you try to

clumsily take over and make people

uncomfortable yeah those are the only

two those are the only two

options they really are I know but like

hold on I'm gonna take a um lip balm

break do it up because I need my lips

are dry this is brought to you by lip

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balms everywhere I mean I guess this is

friendship is is is letting your friend

use I know about this because I have a

middle schooler I love

Lan I'm

I mean the question is like how well do

you have to know someone to let them

stick their finger in I'm try to do that

I just okay you don't want to I don't

want to interesting well I'll think

about that all day you didn't put I'm

afraid it it will wipe off what little

color is left but you're not a

germaphobe I'm not a germaphobe and I

think it's a real unattractive quality

in someone else when they're like a

germaphobe especially in a man in a man

it is such a disgusting steel breaker

like a man who's worried about like I

don't shake hands it's like you're a man

shake hands and then go wash your hands

you

freak yeah you're the one with poop on

your hands you're the one like who said

anything about poop on their hands until

you

did I don't know I but there's we know a

couple people that are germaphobes we

have to watch out that's the thing we

have to watch out for in our 50s is the

thing that was like our cute

eccentricity becomes our genuine mental

illness mental illness the thing that's

like you know how they don't like Drive

yeah well well I was I got my license

had expired and during the pandemic you

were like you it was before the pandemic

you were like you got to get your

license back to me you were like you

can't be one of those older ladies that

doesn't drive and I'm like you're right

you're right you're right I do feel now

I love to drive you you I do you do

you're good at driving I drive and your

the name of your car is my car is named

Karen because she's a white

Subaru and and I said this before which

is I feel like Amy came this close to

being a Karen yes like that yeah because

as you've said like a lot of the actual

worst Karens were in fact named Amy in

real life the woman that called the guy

that was bird watching was named Amy at

the same time Amy Cony Barrett was up

and running or getting up and running

there was a lot going on with Amy we

were we missed it by an inch yeah it's a

it's a

real yeah but is there anything you feel

like you see me doing that you should

like I should be careful about warn you

about that's a good question I think

that is what women do for each other is

they say like hey you know like you know

the pills that you take for your for

flying you shouldn't take them at when

you're not when you're not

flying oh my chair made a farts on that

wasn't me um uh no I feel like I know

what I what um you should tell me about

which is the the especially coming out

of the pandemic my mumbling talking yeah

you're metastized mumbling and sometimes

and I when I'm thinking really fast like

it really is um uh even I'm like wow

what's going on there like I have to

work to fully form my words what do you

think is going on there I think I stayed

home a lot in the pandemic and muttered

to myself and I hope that's it and not

it's not a precursor to some kind of

mental decline it was like her muttering

started when she was 53 and then she

became one of the crumb brothers from

the movie crumb

everyone pause the podcast go watch

crumb real

quick um but I'm trying to think if

there I I I don't well I know that I I

like I play this game with my friends

this would be a fun game to play

together which is like what is the

version of you that's like your biggest

fear you will turn into I know mine

exactly okay what is

it how do I say this without saying

it I want to write it down and show it

to you and you can by the way I have my

computer here you know because that's

what people do with podcasts is they

have their computer because you're

playing Crush yeah and um and you have

like one window open with I wish we

could do the whole podcast where I say

really um like the wrong information

about everything and then I pretend to

look it up and I verify it in front of

you oh also I wish I was just smoking

weed the whole

time what if I just start lit up a

joint

[Laughter]

okay okay let how do I articulate that

okay I would say there's a certain type

of stride

older

Showbiz yes that's like listen to me

honey I don't give a [ __ ] and I'm like

oh God just but that's so not you you're

a mutterer I'm a mutterer so it's not

but there's also something about the

look of it that's as often as I say like

I'm GNA cut my hair and my friend G has

been doing my hair for 30 years he's

like no no you may not well you have the

best hair in the business I people

should know this Grandma hair cam this

is all Tina's hair this is all my hair

thank you and much like skinny people

who are mad about OIC in the in the

early 2000s when all these [ __ ]

started wearing tracks I was like

what this is my you could just have what

I have this is all I have it is it is

the most incredible real hair I've ever

seen uh we just did this I just did this

show called The Four Seasons that's

coming out in May and uh there's a scene

it's based on this old movie with Alan

Alda and Carol brnette and there's a

scene in the old movie where Carol

brette Carol Bernette is very angrily

brushing her short hair which is so it's

like the most 1981 thing ever like first

of all we know like you don't vigorously

brush short hair it's G to look terrible

but she's in the scene she's fighting

and she's brushing her hair and I put

the that just a little bit of that in

the in the show I just poke myself in

the eye and um and I kept saying Coleman

Domingo was directing that episode and I

kept saying like Coleman I'll tell you

what a lot of these movie stars they can

act better than me but they can't brush

their hair on camera

cuz they're all wearing [ __ ] wigs and

they're all wearing and so I like I was

like insisted in the edit that couple

shots of me brushing my hair stayed in

and then I went to the mix and I was

like oh did you turn down the the sound

sound of my hair brushing turn it back

up and that's that's what producing is

that's that's what producing is it's

insanity and narcissism and it's like

turn up my hair turn up the sound of the

brush going through my hair people go we

don't need it and you go we do need it

we do need it but you have incredible

hair I feel like you should have a hair

campaign and also I always I'm pushing

you to have a glasses line why do you

not have a glass I I don't have a

glasses line because I have to say you

hate money I do kind of hate money I'm

as we know I'm terrible with I'm

terrible with money only in that I'm

like you are not terrible no I'm not

terrible I don't waste money but I don't

get excited about money if like if I if

I'm safe and my I have enough money to

live I I have a problem with rich people

having a side hustle yeah you mean like

a podcast or something no that's is

you're doing work I'm saying if you if

you sold like um where would my line be

for you where would I draw the

line yeah I know what you mean like if I

had a if I had a rosé if you yeah if you

already have like $200 million and

you're like also I need you to but Tina

that is this is where you have to learn

from Jen Z I'm sorry and we have to

don't care they don't they don't judge

it they don't judge it judge it well get

you should stop because this is the

thing now you have to have a million you

have to have glasses yeah um of well I

have my line of children's

medications and I told you that's so

treacherous no what by the way one time

a million years ago I remember seeing

and I won't name this actress but

someone could figure it out I remember

seeing a 80s actress promoting her line

of homeopathic children's medications I

was like why on this Earth Earth would I

trust an actress yeah for Pediatric

medications to give to my child yeah

you're saying you worry about turning

into a woman as we get older as you get

older that is like a strident

opinionated here's how it works babe

right kind of person yeah and just

fighting everybody yeah and

just because I just say I just think as

an exercise it's fun to think about our

personalities like what the thing that

like got us here that here sitting in

front like you and I are lucky enough to

have a lot of years behind us um

hopefully more years in front of us in

working getting to try all this

different stuff we're at a point in our

lives where we get to we're like in this

juicy Middle where we have either

parents who have passed away or aging

parents we have kids who are like coming

into their own we're right in

Hest two middle but we like to say we

middle although I'm going to 100 um and

God wait you don't want to live to a 100

no unless there's some amazing there

will be okay we'll see like new lungs

there'll be a whole thing money only can

fix your 80s and 90s so much that is the

thing we've traveled on we've we've hung

around a lot of um wealthy older people

and the the thing that they cannot get

over is that they're going to die yeah

like that's the thing they can't but

who's but who's your guy who do I call

yeah yeah and it's like no one you call

God yeah you call him on the phone and

say yeah but sorry I and he says welcome

to hell um he says welcome God says

welcome to hell um okay um but but do

you want to talk about um Four Seasons

for a second by the way because it is

coming out and Coleman Domingo is a

prince on this Earth an angel on this

Earth God so talented so beautiful

inside and out like a beautiful human

being um yes so we're doing this show

the four seasons on Netflix I'm very

excited about it it is um based on this

1981 movie that was written and directed

by Alan Alder another angel on this

Earth can I tell people that I said

hello to alen Alda at your house

recently alen Alda came to my house that

was pretty cool Alan and arene Alda it

was a real lovely wife momentous

occurrence I mean alen Alda was huge in

our lives

yeah he remains huge yeah and he he's

such a big deal like you can't even

imagine what a giant do you remember the

super

Emmy no one year one year they gave out

a super Emmy so it was like you it was

called a super Emy it was called a super

Emmy and he's the only person that ever

got it because it was like they won like

best show best directing best scre um

script blah blah blah blah blah and the

super Emmy goes to Alan ala for everyone

was like okay that's enough of the super

Emmy they only did it once I think they

only did did it once and is it was it

bigger than a regular go you have to

have you should call you have him on the

podcast oh he has a great podcast he I

have listened to his podcast it's one of

the few that have penetrated my Fortress

that's what she said um I would love to

talk about it because it was a truly

joyous experience top to bottom like I

one of the things I'm most proud about

of this whole thing was that um so many

people actors and crew came up to me and

were like this is the most Pleasant job

we've ever had um and it was like I said

was built as intentionally as possible

to be all good Souls um and uh it's

Coleman uh a beautiful Italian actor

named Marco calvani uh Steve Corell Will

Forte Carrie Kenny silver and Erica

henningson and it's basically that

little Ensemble is Ensemble is pretty

much that's it very few day players very

few like no real very few guest stars

and so it was a really cozy environment

and it's a very very gentle program that

I am kind of just can't wait to see if

people uh are interested in a gentle a a

good hang hopefully is the TV equivalent

of a good hang because it's just you

know there's some story but there's no

zombies There's No Mysteries great

that's exactly truly what we're trying

to do here because I can my nervous

system two two things my nervous system

cannot take it compared to the rest of

the world yes and also I feel like

there's this weird sometimes I mean you

are the exact uh you're the example of

of of of not doing this I think you like

everything you make is hard jokes and

hard comedy and always really really

funny but a lot of times women spe

specifically are asked to like be like

nurturing caretakers in spaces like be

teachers and and and and and when we

were thinking about this podcast it was

like I I all the guys get to just like

goof around and have fun and it' be

straight comedy escapism and our stuff

has to be I don't know about menopause

which also is

important yeah this is I

mean for the for the people who want a

100 jokes per minute this is a departure

these characters are funny and but it's

all completely human scale oo I love

that so again we shall see and I I feel

like it is just a little science

experiment where people might be like no

but TV doesn't really like there's no TV

anymore right it's all just like

articles about TV like TV itself is it's

AI generated

listicles it's Tik Tok about TV shows

that aren't on so what is the thing that

you do where do you go to escape what is

like the video that you watch the person

that you watch what is making you laugh

I have a couple things that I like to

watch one of the things I like to watch

is and again I'm going to keep

referencing Tik Tok I'm not a public

account you will don't find me don't

look for me don't me if anyone's

pretending to be you they're fake it's

fake yeah um but I like to watch videos

of people either doing or learning or

trying to teach Beyonce's homecoming

dance break so either someone who can do

it or I love it when it's a person who

you don't expect them to be able to do

it and then they do it like they're hold

holding like a laundry basket yes so

they're just like yeah they're a mom in

their in their laundry room and then

they do it um I have tried to watch

tutorials to try to do I'm not a great

dancer and I I know that if I was given

from now to the end of my life I could

not learn the first 16 counts of that

dance yeah um but I love watching people

do it and then the other day I was

watching a a a whole bunch of people

doing it and it took me one guy was like

a really beautiful ripped guy in like

shorts no shirt doing it and I was like

oh this is a new layer of this and then

the algorithm was like oh you you watch

that so you just want to see videos that

are just like hasht rugby build and it

was just like yeah guys with a rugby

build and I was like I think I do want

to watch this yeah Paul mesco started

that like he's the ultimate famous rugby

build and then have you seen in rugby

where the they have to pick each other

up with their each other underwear like

know no so in rugby there's a move where

they the men to get the other one

taller you know like to basically it's

almost like if you're if you're hoisting

somebody up yeah they grab basically

their shorts and underwear so weird and

then they that's how they get it up and

there's videos and I'm not saying that

my algorithm has

necessarily picked up on this but I have

seen them enough to now I do get them

where men where men grab each other by

the waist it's very feminine it's it's

actually like it almost looks yes it

looks like a lift yeah but they grab

each other and lift each other up and

then their

penis their their dicks are right in the

line of their face but it's totally fine

it's I mean it's fine either way of

course it is I just mean it everyone's

happy there's no everyone's doing

exactly what they want to do yeah and

it's in these are in slow motion yes um

yeah I wasn't mad about that that change

in my algorithm um and uh okay so

another thing that I really do the only

other television program that truly

brings me joy is my weekend local news

in the morning wow I love and by the way

they know this and they're probably like

stop talking about us it's getting weird

I love NBC4 Pat

Battle um Gus

Rosendale uh it is I find to be the most

truly informative nice program on the

whole week here's what you get Amy you

get your news you get your national news

brief briefly you get your local news

mostly local right okay then you get

produce Pete I love produce Pete Nice

old Italian man comes out tells you

what's in season what to make with it

incredible then it used to be more

frequently before the pandemic before

the pandemic he used to be in person uh

Bill's books nice uh gentleman named

Bill come tells you what he read what he

liked about it what he recommends that

you read uhuh before the Pand they also

then used to sometimes be like here are

some animals that are up for adoption I

feel like that's gone away but that's it

and then the weather and the traffic and

and Pat Battle and Gus I believe they're

friends they have a wonderful Rapport

you don't know what their deal is I mean

I don't think they're more than friends

if that's what you're implying I would

never but I feel like they they like

being co-workers what a great Pat Battle

Pat Battle have I listen one time it was

like a hurricane or something a

blizzard Pat Battle went out in the

street

in her hometown she went out in where

she lives in New Jersey and she was

helping people push their cars that's

cool that look that is what America

should be okay it's a It's Pat it's Gus

it's protos Pete it's Bill's books we

help our

neighbors that's the America I want to

live in um if you've got battle in the

last name you got to push some listen

have I invited Pat Battle to events a

100% like too many times does she show

up yes we have a good time great so

you've met Pat Battle I've met Pat

Battle and and what what was that like

did Sparks Fly I mean she was like

thought it was pretty funny that I keep

bothering her and I'm obsessed with

her but Pat battles in an episode of 30

Rock oh really as herself yeah we did

one episode uh where Liz Lemon gets

invited to like a women in media

luncheon and then of course like the gag

is that they can't they have a big

screen and they can't figure out to get

to work and the all women are all like

turn it on and off

again and then but it's like it was like

cat battle Gail King um uh a couple

other news ladies and Andrea Martin

played like the lady who was in running

it and she her character has a breakdown

in the middle of the thing and she's

talking about how her husband left her

and she's like I just remember she had

some line where she was like I put it my

Andrea Martin impression get ready okay

I put a sweater on a body pillow and I

took it for a canoe ride

like everyone all the women lose their

minds at the women in media luncheon

Tina that makes total sense to me that

that is your like fun that makes me feel

nice and I'm also I'm drinking coffee

I'm with Jeff it's the morning yeah

everything hasn't gone to [ __ ] yet and

the weekend's Al the weekend plans are

all possible but the news but that's new

but the news local listen it's local it

is it's local but even the local oh

everything's on fire yeah but then it's

also like there's a food festival on

City Island that kind ofu it's like

check out these artia chokes he's like

Betty's going to make the squash pie

called muts

auts speaking of Betty people should

know that that's what I call you that's

that's my nickname for you right you

called me that in front of Colin Jo the

other day and he seemed very delighted

he I can't believe he didn't know that

well we're we're right now he's not

thinking about us enough no does he he

doesn't know what we call each other

private Jo who talk about talk about an

arc Jo when we met Jo did you say anarc

or anarc an arc talk about aarc what

aarc I was smoking weed and joose called

the police and I was like [ __ ] narc

no um talk about having an arc baby Jo

as we used to call him we met him we

went up to Harvard the Harvard Lampoon

oh see that's where we met him that's I

think where I met him did you I have a

terrible memory I remember I hat it

every minute being at the Harvard lampon

I hat it too what a bunch of dorks we

should just tell the story so a Harvard

Lampoon invites you up and they kind of

roast you they invite you to come up and

then you go there and then a bunch of

like snively little worms yeah like by

the way like try to roast you and

they're not good at it no they're not

good at it but you and I many times over

the years many times have had this

moment where we've turned to each other

and loved or hated something at the same

time and this was definitely example

where we both were like we're not we you

don't like this and they make you go

through this kind of initiation and I

mean I I wasn't in a sorority in college

no me neither and um I don't get it so

but they made you go through a whole

thing and then they brought us into a

big giant room and they kind of roasted

us yeah and we had we had I think we had

a lot of fun in how much we like did not

engage didn't like it and but but baby

Jo was there that's he was the bab okay

I I don't remember him I we didn't get a

j roast but no he was he was always but

he went on to um I don't remember any of

the actual people that roasted us I

remember the face of one guy and do he

has he gone on to work in comedy I don't

believe he has yeah I since then you

know why because I you and I both have

like blue collar um yeah uh I guess rage

what what would you call it like

or at at worst chip on her shoulder at

best you're not better than me yeah um I

remember be having two more Harvard

experiences and both involved what I

felt like like like sniveling guys

roasting me because um uh one was uh the

uh Hasty Pudding where you really do

kind of you know you know what you're

getting into and they kind of come out

and roast you yeah why why isn't

everyone just like no nerds thanks no

thanks why does anyone go I don't know

but I really did my homework on that one

and I had really good jokes that I was

proud of and I really crushed them and

then I was asked to give like one of

those speeches at Harvard and one of the

kids um I mean I've gotten this more

than once and I hope this isn't awkward

for you for me to say it in front of you

but definitely like people like to say

like you're you know you're the poor

man's Tina Fe I know and so um but this

kid said it before right before I went

up so I gave him the

finger which

everyone was shocked about and I don't

know if it was the right I mean I mean I

did it I guess but I go [ __ ] you and

again I was like you're on AAS Amy like

this is a this is but then [ __ ] Harvard

yeah [ __ ] Harvard [ __ ] Harvard yeah I

mean those [ __ ] [ __ ] but um but

I'm just but thank you for inviting me

it was a real

honor don't lose my number forever go

[ __ ] yourselves yeah definitely is the

kind of thing where like people go to

award shows and they get mad that

they're getting the awards it's like if

you really if you really don't like it

don't go don't go but I did go and was

happy to give a speech um okay lastly

yeah just to kind of get started on this

podcast I had on Zoom I had dra Seth and

Fred and

zarna and they all got into zoom and I

said I'm interviewing Tina what should I

ask her oh my gosh and it was great

because everyone was very excited and of

course the I just want you to know the

most hilarious thing was dra could not

get her laptop to turn on or her

headphones to work and then while we

were recording the door doorbell rang

and her dog dog started barking cuz she

had ordered food so there wasn't much

content that we can use so were there

questions from that but the one question

there were a couple questions which is

what makes you laugh we went into that

what makes me laugh we didn't really get

into that we watched for comfort the

thing that made me laugh the hardest

most recently was this clip of Bobby

moan from they did these really great

SNL documentaries and it was uh a

documentary about auditioning for SNL

and and it was people and you were in it

you were great in it and they talk to

people about the process of auditioning

and then they show them their audition

back and people get emotional people you

know they've never seen it or like oh my

gosh this is from 50 years ago or

whatever and they showed they made Bobby

watch his audition back and he's doing a

character that's in his audition that's

just beyond

inappropriate and he's watching it and

he's he's watching it and he goes oh no

and then he goes oh Bobby and the way he

says oh Bobby the way he calls himself

by name is so gentle and so it made me

laugh so hard and I I think it should be

the tick tock sound that people play

like when you have to you have to see a

piece of Comedy that you're like okay we

did we we realize now that that's not

okay you just show the content and just

hear Bob hear the voice of Bobby going

oh

Bobby and that's how you apologize for

problematic content in the past you just

put the OB babby sound over it and it

means I see it I'm sorry mhm let's all

move forward I know better now I know

better now I do better now I'm an ally

who makes mistakes oh Bobby oh Bobby oh

Bobby that really made me laugh I

couldn't stop watching

it you can make that get that audio you

should trademark that audio and get make

merch and then the other thing that

zarna had zarna was like you never get

asked Tina never gets ask girly

questions which is so funny I mean do

you feel like you don't get ask early

questions I know like like what's my

skare routine yeah nothing I mean do

nothing nothing nothing and then

expensive lasers Fred wanted to know

um Fred's like oh also by the way you

know Fred does a great Tina impression

no you've never seen his no I've never

seen it what do you mean you I like he's

done it to you he does a thing where he

he he's like a mum he mumbles but when

he comes up the thing about Fred Armon

his impressions are never like they

never make you feel bad yes yeah

at least in my experience like they just

feel like they're kind yeah which is

hard to do but he comes up with like a

script you've seen this I maybe I don't

know the physicality it's more

physicality than anything else where he

comes up with a script and he goes hey

buddy um just want like and you're

giving a thought with the script holding

the script to your body and you can't

hear what you're

saying I'm like what percentage Tina

beler am I well remember sh

um Andy's character on that maybe a

little shyon anyway Fred wanted to know

last question maybe we can talk about

this before you go is your dad like a

really good artist really good at

caricatures do you have any of that

artistic ability I wish I had more I

think both my daughters have it I I do

in the summer on I go to Fire Island in

the summer and I like to paint portraits

in my free time and they are terrible

and they're like they're getting

slightly better but not not at a rate um

that would impress like they they're

terrible um but I love cuz it's the only

thing I want to paint is to tr I want to

try to capture people's faces people

like that I love and um uh I should take

some classes because the of course the

problem is I don't draw the head right

and then they come out like sometimes I

kind of like how wonky they come out but

um uh no I of the four people in my

immediate family I am the least uh

talented at Art uh my daughters are very

talented Jeff is very can draw and paint

um but uh but can I just quickly my

favorite the story of when my dad who

loved coming up to visit SNL it was like

Fred's one of his first few shows and my

dad was coming up and visiting and he

was like standing at 8h while we were

getting ready to rehearse update at that

like five o'clock time and Fred was in a

costume for some other sketch he was in

a tuxedo and my dad had not met him yet

at and he just came up to my dad and was

in a tuxedo and just came up to my dad

in character just going this is Rainbow

Room I'm I I look for a rainbow room see

I can't tell the story because I can't

shouldn't be doing this accent but Fred

I guess can do it we'll get a robot to

do it get a robot to do it but it was so

funny and your dad was like I don't he

oh he loved it and he used to paint

little portraits little characteres of

Fred as like fericito as Prince and he

would mail them to me and I would give

them to Fred and I think Fred still has

one which is I think what made him think

of that question no way he was Fred's

biggest fan oh Don Fay has great taste

like he smart artisty really cool guy

and um coming back around if if Fred has

Don Fay Originals I have um in my

children's bedrooms I have paintings

done by Barbara Jo Colin Jo's

grandmother

awesome that's Co so it's back to Jo uh

if you are listening to this when it

comes out Tina and I are going to be on

the road yes look for us at a at a

theatrical venue near you we have a

bunch of dates in all over the US and

it's been so fun and we're going to have

our buddies out there with us is it Tina

Amy Tina amy.com Tina and amy.com you

would think I would know who would know

I think so I think it is Tina and

amy.com I think so um but uh go check it

out check out our dates come see us and

um hopefully um we'll continue to work

together for another 30 years I hope so

me too love you I love you too thank you

so you know that's our first episode of

good hang thank you Tina for coming I

did actually learn I did learn that she

learned things that I didn't know after

30 years that she obviously is in in an

emotional affair with her local

newscasters and that's a problem and I

should let her husband know um we are at

a um a point in the show the end of the

show where we're going to do something

called The Polar Plunge which is um

really simply I'm going to talk about

stuff that makes me laugh and like where

we're finding joy and lightness these

days and so to add to that before we go

I just want to say that check out my

favorite sketch on SNL the one that I

return to over and over again during

covid during tough times in my life when

I was feeling especially down the first

Debbie Downer the Lindsay Lohan episode

when they're at Disneyland that sketch

to me is the perfect example of how a

good laugh can completely change your

day your week your life and why it is so

funny to me is that the great Rachel dra

whose comedic stylings and physical

comedy we experienced at the beginning

of this episode when she couldn't get

her headphones on When Rachel is trying

to stick the landing and get those jokes

out and we know that it's going to be

followed by the sound effect and the

audience has this moment where we're all

in it together that moment is still

still thrilling to watch so do yourself

a favor because yes Rachel cracks up and

you know when people crack up it can be

funny or sometimes it can be annoying or

whatever and you know I grew up with

Carol Bernett and like

loved watching the play that they all

had and how they were all trying to kind

of get each other to laugh but what's so

funny about Debbie Downer in that scene

and why I truly watch it for a serotonin

boost is because r knows what's coming

and she tries her best to keep a

straight face and that she's like

bursting like a silent film star and

anyway that's what's making me laugh

today you've been listening to good hang

the executive producers for this show

are Bill Simmons Jenna Weiss Burman and

me Amy polar the show is produced by the

ringer and paper kite for the ringer

production by Jack Wilson cat Spain Kaia

McMullen and Alia zenys for paper kite

production by Sam green Joel LEL and

Jenna Weiss Burman original music by Amy

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