Selena Gomez on Good Hang with Amy Poehler

Hello everyone. Welcome to another episode of Good Hang. We are very excited about our guest today. It is Selena Gomez, the multi-talented, incredible businesswoman and comedian and singer who uh is just a total delight. And we're going to talk about a lot of fun things today. We're going to talk about her incredible business and her success as uh the founder of Rare Beauty. We're going to talk about Only Murders in the Building and uh working with legends and being one herself.

We're going to talk about Tahhano music, her favorite kind and music that she listened to growing up. And we're going to get to know her grandmother's favorite recipe. All of that and more in this episode. Um, but you know, we always uh have guests uh tell us about our guest. We always talk well behind our guests back and have someone special to talk about them. And today we have uh well, one of my comedy legends uh a person who came on an early episode of this show and who a lot of people don't

know has totaled my car three times. Martin Short. Marty [Music] >> Hi baby. Thank you for coming back. I was just saying, >> "Hey, by the way, I loved our show." >> Me, too. It was such a hit. >> So, nothing was funnier than when you called me a [ __ ] >> Where are you? >> I'm in Toronto. >> Oh, fantastic. You know, I think I told you I went to Canada a lot in the summers and it was always cold, but is it is it warm there right now? >> Do you know it got insanely hot because

we're spiraling toward the sun as you >> Yeah. And um it got very hot and very humid. No, the lake got to be 81. I know you don't believe it. >> That's good. >> And I know you you still call that a cold plunge, but not for Canadians. >> Have you cold plunged since we talked? >> No, ma'am. >> Oh, well, I can tell. >> You can tell by the skin. >> I can I can tell by your disposition. Very fiery. >> You know what? By the way, [ __ ] off. Okay, >> we're going to talk to Selena today, who

I've I don't think I've ever really met. And >> really, she's absolutely lovely. >> I know. And I I want to tell her, you know, this part of the show is like talking well behind somebody's back. >> Who are you talking to about? >> You >> like You're talking >> I'm talking Oh, just me. >> Yeah, you're the person I'm talking to. I think this is just me calling you. You could let me know when we're recording because if we're recording, I'll >> We're recording right now. What? >> Okay.

>> And I'm glad I'm talking to you about Selena because I remember when we were together, I said, "Oh, what's it like working with her?" And you were like, "She's great." Like you said, she's just a doll. And I remember thinking, "Oh, it's so good to hear." Because I that's the vibe I got from her and wanted it so much to be true. But I do feel like you can tell a lot about somebody by how they work. >> Yeah. I mean, the thing is about Selena is that she is just an old pro. I had

never met her the first day we shot and we had zoomed and it was because of co, you know, it you you just have to zoom all the time. And as I'm driving there, I'm thinking, what is Selena Gomez going to be like? What if she's a nightmare? What if she's mean to people? >> Is >> um kind of rude. Like I knew if she was late, 40 minutes late every day, Steve would say, "Very good." One season, "I don't care how big a success, I'm not doing it." >> Yeah. >> And so right away I met her in the

makeup room and she smiled at me and I went, "Ah, we're fine." >> Yeah. >> And she's just been a doll. We've really really uh become very, very close. I just um adore her. I'm so happy that she's getting married to this fabulous guy, Benny Blanco, who's just the one of the great cool guys and funny and loose and she adores him and um I don't know. I'm just thrilled for her happiness and I'm thrilled to get to work with her every day. >> Yeah. Well, you know, I bet I I know

that she gets asked a lot what it's like like what she's learned from working with you and Steve, but what have you learned from working with her? Uh, I knew everything. >> Yeah, it looks like nothing. Looks like you you've stopped learning. >> I learned uh uh you can like order an egg with caviar on it and not be ashamed.

>> Caviar egg. You never gave yourself permission to do that before. >> I didn't. I didn't. And I don't know what I was waiting for. First of all, I don't like caviar. But secondly, yeah, it was just I'm me. And you know that's the name of my new book. >> I'm me, Cohen. I deserve this. >> The actual working title is I is me. I did a special once called I Martin Short Goes Hollywood. >> A little bit of bad grammar is the funniest thing in the world. >> Nothing funny.

>> So funny. Now, do you have to have extra security because you work with Selena? like on set and stuff cuz you guys shoot in New York which is not >> Yeah. Um she has a security person there. You have a security person. But what's amazing is if we shoot on the street >> Yeah. >> which is not often but certainly happens a lot. Um that doesn't make any sense. Not often but happens a lot. Anyway, um you know Steve and I are working and doing a scene. There might be nine nine

guys there kind of disinterested for about 40 minutes and then they walk away and you never ever see those pictures. When Selena joins us, there's about 120 paparazzi and they're there all day. >> Oh yeah. >> And I'm sure they're just waiting for her to fall or stumble or >> mean, you know, that would um therefore um they could, you know, make more money from it. So she's just been that's been her life. I don't think um and she does have security on the streets. We

all do. But but she is so lovely with him and they've been in her life for so long. The only time I ever saw her get a little stern is when they were a little abrupt to like this 14-year-old fan of hers and she said, "Never do that." >> Yeah. >> You know, no, she there's you can't fault her. >> Yeah. >> You really say, "Okay, I'll tell you what. I'll tell Okay, I'll tell you what's really bad about you can't there's no way to >> and the other thing I do want to talk to

her about today is I mean she's she's the founder of a hugely successful business and you know just because we've all grown up with her I think people think she's younger than she is. I mean she's a 33year-old woman running a billion dollar business. We once compared each other's net worth and I told her what my net worth was and she went, "Oh, that's so cute. >> That's just adorable." >> You guys both wrote it on a piece of paper and just slipped it to each other. >> I went like this.

>> Wow. And she went like this. >> You know what? It's amazing. I've never seen her. I mean, she has literally like, I don't know, 490 million Instagram followers. I've never seen her overrun by it all, collapsing from the pressure of it all. >> And so, a question for her might be, is it ever overwhelming and too much? >> I also think another thing to ask her about our our um her music. Mhm. >> You know, she's this massively successful singer, songwriter, and um but I don't

think I ever asked her in detail enough her real early influences and what was the first song that she fell in love with. >> I love that. On set, are is there singing? >> When Jane Lynch was on, there's always singing. >> Yeah. >> Um uh Steve sometimes will bring his banjo. Uh, you know what I say about the banjo? >> The banjo makes people who play the jug say "Really?" But anyway, um, but no, there's not a lot of singing. >> There's a lot of gossip. It doesn't have to be true.

>> Yeah, just make it up. >> You know what I heard? >> Um, okay. I'm going to ask her about her early musical influences. That's a good question, I think. And I'm going to and and I and I do want to talk to her about her successful business because I do think that, you know, not to get too heavy, Marty, but in our patriarchal society, I think we like totally, you know, we don't treat femalun businesses, especially by young women, especially in the beauty space, as a serious business.

And it is crushing everything else. tell you something. >> When I look at not only what Selena's done, but what you've done and what Tina's done, I find myself very proud of you ladies. >> Well, that seems weird and patronizing. Proud of us. >> I am proud because >> Oh, you're What are you my dad? No, I just feel like, you know, because you could just be saying you want cream in that coffee, but you're not. >> This doesn't feel good. >> I'm trying to be as kind >> I know

>> as a a condescending guy can be.

>> I love you so much. Thank you. >> I remember but but I will repeat. Oh, >> it's from the SNL 50th.

>> Oh god, I can't wait. My phone is standing by. >> Actually, what? You have my cell? >> Yeah. Do you have It's What? >> Call you. I don't like to talk on the phone. Can you Can you just text it to me? >> No, no, no, no. It's too long. >> Oh my god. >> Kids, what is wrong with the phone? I don't like talking on the phone. A phone call feels >> We're not getting this isn't going to be the length of showa. It was a brief little story. >> I to me a phone convers phone call is

bad news. Like why am I on the phone? >> No, no, no, no. But is this and I again Oh my god, I so don't mean this condescendingly negatively, but is your thing about the phone because you really don't like it or because you read Sher doesn't like the phone? Well, you know that I try to not like anything that Sher doesn't like. >> I know. >> You know how I do. Um >> I know. >> I uh I would You know what? Just snap me. Just Snapchat me. >> Okay. I'm not You know what? This is too

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apply. Selena Gomez is here. I kind of wanted to start today by saying like I feel like so many people talk to you about the past. They want to talk to you about things that happened, but I want to stay in the present. >> Yes. >> And talk about the future. I know. Because your present is pretty amazing right now. >> Thank you so much. >> Congratulations on the past couple of years. >> I appreciate it. Yeah, it's been wonderful. I didn't want people I genuinely appreciate you saying that cuz

it's people are going to think I'm permanently anhidonic of just not enjoying anything in life. >> Wait, what's that word? >> Anhodonic meaning unable to enjoy things. >> Wow. >> And I really wanted I really love this era, if you will. The past five years have been wonderful. >> Super creative for you. >> Yeah. It's just been a gift that keeps giving from only murders to rare all of it's just I can't I have to pinch myself sometimes. >> We have a lot to talk about because

you're running you know you founded created and you're running a billion dollar business$2 billion dollar business. You have a huge hit show on the air. You have the love of your life. You've got you've like the past couple of years have felt like they've been this big joyous explosion of things. And I always like to ask people this like if this was a if your life is a book, what is the title of this chapter? >> Oh gosh, I I >> can I pitch you some ideas? >> Yes.

>> I would say something like um really simple but poetic like um the best part yet. >> Oh. >> Or um >> the best is yet to come. >> The best is yet to come. Or the the best is here. The best is here, babe. And oh, or what is the best? Let's >> let me tell you 33 and feeling free or whatever. But I want to speak to you as a person talking to a deeply successful entrepreneur. I mean, you are the founder of a gigantic successful business that in my opinion like does a lot of things, gets

a lot of things very right. When you were a young person, what was your relationship to makeup and beauty? Did you have a house where people were doing that? Did you >> Yeah, it's actually interesting because my my nana was all about self care as as far as, you know, taking good >> care of your skin. Um, but my mom was a makeup artist. So, yes. And she worked at MAC, so she had like >> she's at the counter. >> Yeah. >> And I love it, you know, like I think she she would give me all of her

products that she was done with and she would do them for photo shoots in Dallas, Texas for like little things and >> it was really cool. So, um, yeah, I remember playing with it a lot. I wasn't allowed to wear it out and I'm glad considering the pictures I see now. >> I just would I would stick on all the colors and it just was really fun for me to play with. And now my sister is >> got to be 13. >> I know. >> So weird. But she's awesome. >> 12 to 13 is an interesting bridge.

>> Very. It's so weird. Even her getting her nails done sometimes freaks me out. And also I noticed that like 12 you're still kind of you'll like dance around and be goofy and sometimes something happens with with boys and girls. It's it's not gendered where like you just start to be conscious of being self-conscious and you just I know. >> Well, that's what I was going to say is my 12 versus her 12. It's it is a vast difference and it makes me >> worried and also encouraged because I have,

>> you know, trust in my sister and she's a very sweet girl. She's very goofy still, so I try to like pull that out of her. >> Yeah. >> It's like you want to keep the goofiness going for as long as possible. And also that just is at any age basically like no matter the person like you want to >> it's the secret to life but it's so hard to learn which is if you can just have fun without worrying about what other people think of you. >> That's the power but it takes so long to learn. >> It's true.

>> But she's been like you know when you were Joy. Um, it was actually I really wanted to ask you about that movie because I watched it with my sister and I completely sobbed. >> Yeah. >> Because it it is so factual how it I almost feel like it should have been a requirement in school to watch that as a homework assignment because I'm so fascinated with the human mind and it would break my heart. and my sister watched it and she started crying and it's um was that just crazy?

>> Yeah. You know, I think what if for people listening I think you're referring No, to Inside Out. And in in the second one, are you talking about Inside Out too? Yeah. There's that like kind of heartbreak that happens when anxiety moves in. >> Yes. >> And suddenly the the emotion of anxiety moves in. And I have to say, same. No matter the age, >> you're either feeling it in real time as a young person, you're remembering that feeling as a person in your 30s and 40s

or 50s or above. Like you're just remembering that moment when >> your paint set, you know, got some darker colors in it. Definitely. And it's >> I mean, it's part of growing up, but it's >> it's brutal. >> It is. I just but you you I mean how it was everyone a part of that movie. If you haven't seen it, please watch. I just think it's incredible and >> congratulations. I'm going to make my children watch it. Just >> Oh my god, your children. >> I want to be I want to see our babies. I

know. I know. I know they don't exist yet, but I can't wait. >> They do. Um, I also want to talk to you about like typical day, >> okay, >> of you running your business because you have basically three to four full-time jobs. >> Yes. >> And one would be enough and you have a lot of full-time jobs and you know um >> the great Martin Short. I spoke to him earlier today because we like to talk well behind our guests back and and he's, you know, he's such so in love

with you and we we he was just saying like I never see Selena like overwhelmed like she doesn't do that thing which is like I can't handle today, right? Even though she's got a million things that she's dealing with at once. >> What's a typical day like for you? >> Well, I love him so much. That isn't always true, though. Um just hiding I think it's I well you know it's about of course typically it's a balance but it is when I when I am doing only murders it's

>> you know it can be 12 to 14 hour days and it's 5 days a week and I have like my entire love and attention is focused on that. So when I do get to work on anything film or TV related >> I kind of have to have all of my focus there. >> Yeah. >> Does not mean that I am not answering emails. Well, text. I don't like email cuz >> Oh my god. Martin. Marty wanted to talk on the phone. I was like, are you nuts? >> I They've made I've turned into Steve and Marty. We'll get there. But I've

turned into both of them somehow. >> And you're talking on the sending faxes. >> Yes. And I don't um >> using a file of facts. >> Yeah. I just I'm always we're if I have an idea or I smell something or I I feel something, I'm super close with Joyce who basically is my product goto guru. If I want to create something out of thin air, she a thousand% will go there and >> it could be a complete failure. But >> so you can be like, I I touched this lemon today. How cool would it be to

like have a lemon, you know, do we have a lemon scrub in the line? that's interesting or whatever. >> I definitely will come up with things and >> what have you come up with that you're like that was good. >> Well, when we first started the company, um I'd say the blushes were the liquid blushes have been my pride and joy because that was that was one of the most important, you know, moments for Rare. And I think the the texture and the way we'd play with it and all the

colors, all of it feels like you're a chemist in a way. And you can just feel it and smell it even. And I I was able to go to Italy where, you know, we did >> uh most of our products and it's it's wild, you know, it's just it's a whole process. You have tons of different people using the stuff that you make. I was really impressed and I didn't know this that you have easily accessible um products. They're easy to open. >> Yes. >> Um why was that important to you and

what do you have to do to make that happen? >> So I have um a few medical things but I I have arthritis in my fingers and that's due to my lupus. So, I remember uh before the brand, I was trying to open a water bottle and it hurt really bad before I was on the right medication. >> And we somehow inherently made the products easy to open and then we realized, wait, they kind of have to be that way. And then we started to make every product with the intention of anybody

who have dexterity problems. Um, and I know that might seem like a little thing, but it's really not because it's actually so helpful for anyone at any age to be able to use the products and and that's why we want to make them easy and accessible because it's important to me and it always has been. So, even down to our fragrance, the the pump is very easy for me to use. >> It speaks to the bigger thing, which is I've just been very always very moved and impressed by the way that you allow

your own challenges, health challenges to inform your story and your product because >> it really makes people feel very seen. >> Definitely. And I think there's, >> you know, there's so much stigma behind so many different illnesses. I don't know. I'm I've been through it. So, I think I just know how it feels and I really want everyone to feel as good as I do now, you know. >> Do we have the scent here? May I? >> Yes, please. >> Look. So, this is my fake food wall.

>> I really, really love this. We have some of this at our home. >> You do? >> Yeah. >> What kind of stuff do you hear? Do you recognize? Okay. Already I'm loving this for a couple reasons. >> Okay. Basically, we have orange peels that look so real and they're all over the house that people keep mistaking them as trash. >> And then fake orange peels. >> It's art. It's art. >> I love it. >> Might be my um Beyonce's choice. >> Benny's like, "Babe, we got to get these orange peels."

>> It's like they're the deal. >> And you're like, "Okay, I'm afraid people are going to throw them away." Yeah, multiple people have tried but um yeah, so can I show you? >> Yes, please. >> Basically, it's so to lock it, it's just that little simple turn to unlock it. It's that >> what are we calling this fragrance? >> This is called rare o the perfume. I learned that. >> But I just say it's my rare perfume. >> So, you can do it with, you know, your hand. You can do it however you feel

like if you want to. Oh, I was going to spray it right in my eyes. >> I can smell it right now. So, I know. I just realized I overdid it. >> No, no, let me smell. Let me take it in. >> It will definitely >> Oh, yeah. It smells nice. >> It'll settle. I honestly can taste it. I'm sorry how many times I sprayed it. >> I'm like, it's in my mouth. >> It smells It's, you know, the very funny bit, which is like, you know, in the 80s you would like spray your clone and then you'd walk through it.

>> Oh, it's the gentle naked thing. >> I think that's what I should have done. >> Okay, this smells really good. Everybody here is waiting for calm down. >> Everybody likes the smell in here. >> It'll be here for a minute and then we light it on fire. So, we really do some pyroics in here.

So, I got to talk to Marty Short. >> Yeah. >> And um he was so nice, you know, hea came on this podcast. >> Um >> he was your first guest. >> He was like my first guest, him and Tina. and and him and Steve, you know, are heroes of mine and I'm sure of yours, too. And I grew up loving them, but I also have the pleasure and privilege to know that they're really wonderful to work with. And when you guys all started working together, and of course, the show is a big giant hit. And I said,

you know, what's it like working with Selena? Like, she seems great, but you you know, you never know. Never know. >> And every report back has been and always has been like, "You're such a pro." >> My papa used to say, "If you are on time, you're already late." So that means I get to places 30 minutes before or I've had my team has had to trick me because I show up so early, but I like to be prepared and to say hi and not be rushed. the the feeling of being rushed is very stressful. But then on

top of it, I start working with Steve and Marty and they really, you know, spearhead the whole, you know, they start at the pyramid and everything happens and they just they are so professional. They make everyone feel good. They lighten up any room, even if it's a serious scene. And >> that's that's a huge inspiration to me. And it it just they've been working for so long and if I'm tired and they're not sometimes I'm like whoa okay I can do this. You know they they've really um

I've been very lucky to work with people who are you know punctual and I I just like it because I want everyone to work and have an enjoyable >> I don't think people realize in our industry like most jobs you get in trouble if you're late or you get fired. But in our in our industry, in the music industry, in the in acting and in television and film, >> people sometimes just don't come on time. And it's a really weird thing because in almost every other um industry, you can't you can't get away

with >> why. >> I don't I I have theories. I think sometimes genuinely like real like the magnanimous theory is that real artists like are often you know in their own kind of creative space and like time isn't maybe their >> time management maybe isn't their biggest skill. >> Yeah, >> that's a that's a generous way to think about it. And then the less generous way is I think to your point about anxiety for some people there's just like a struggle to figure out the power dynamics and one

way to get power is to make people wait. It's my worst nightmare. >> That's my worst nightmare. >> I I honestly would start crying only because it stresses me out. >> It's so stressful. That's also I don't want to hurt I guess it wouldn't be hurting people's feelings because they don't probably care like about me that way. But I think it's disrespectful. Um no it's not to say everyone lived their life the way they want to. But for me it just I would feel like a puppy dog with

my tail in between my legs the whole day at work if I made the crew wait even 30 minutes. I'd be like so sorry. >> I know. Like there's I mean we all make mistakes. for humans, but there are the few times that I've overslept or I I cannot tolerate the feeling >> of of knowing people are waiting. >> That's so nice to know that there's more people like that. >> Are you an early to airport person? >> No. >> Oh, wow. >> I don't I don't push it, but I do I don't like being

>> This is interesting. in um an airport because it it like is as you can tell I'm a very like anxious person in a way but I >> I don't know it gets me >> like over stimulated thank you >> you want to get you want to kind of like keep walking right onto the >> and then get in a little >> blanket >> I'm the opposite >> okay >> I like to get there with plenty of time >> okay >> go look at the gate Go look at the gate. >> You have to see. Yeah, I have to see the gate.

>> That's true. Make sure it's there. >> Make sure it's there. Look at the plane. Look at the gate. Like very like airport dad. Like >> go up to the person and be like, >> "Looks like we're taking up on time." Like I like to I like to kick the tires a little bit. >> I love that. >> And have plenty of time to just like be a little hypervigilant. But I understand you the the airport is a nightmare. >> It's just stim it's overstimulating. But I will say if I'm at the Dallas airport,

I like to take my time. >> Oo, why? What's at the Dallas airport? >> First off, it's my home. Second, it's just I mean, what a burger. They have the best restaurants. It doesn't even feel like you're at an airport. It's like >> you could get lost there. >> I just want to spend time there. It's It's Yeah, it's a very push and pull thing because it could be over stimulating. >> Sometimes I like to try to get my steps in. >> Oh, that's clever. I'm not um always

thinking too much about my steps, but if I can get them in, >> yes, >> the airport is a great place to get them in. >> Now, have you seen the people who ride their suitcases? >> You can do that. There's automatic >> I've actually seen it. I do believe you can find it on Tik Tok or something. >> It is grown. Yes, >> I get it for the kids, but it's a little hilarious. >> And I don't mean to be unfair, but it if a man was riding his suitcase, that's a hell no. >> And you're kind of

>> Yeah, that's so true. >> Or anyone who brings their own pillow. That's very stressful to me. Adults with their own pillow. Again, if you need your pillow for support, I understand. But if you don't, >> why are you gonna have it? >> Okay, so back to Marty. Marty, um, first of all, what I find so interest, I mean, you are, you have been, you this is a really deeply comedic role on a show with deeply comedic people and it keeps getting recognized um, uh, and,

you know, by your peers and, uh, lauded by critics and, you know, people can't wait for season five, which is coming out this week. But you have been funny for a very long time. >> Oh god, thank you. That's a huge problem. >> You were very funny on Wizards. >> Thank you. >> And I'm like, what? How have you seen it? >> But you've had the chops for a long time. You've had your >> that like you had timing, which is so much so much, you know, is >> uh such a big

>> I mean, it's wow, I can't even get this sentence out. This is how bad my timing is. But it's true. Your timing has always been impactful. >> Thank you. I I don't I um it's because I grew up and should have probably been more outside, but I grew up watching Will and Grace Friends of course, you know, channel 33 would be Frasier after. >> Um yeah, who did you who did you love? Who are your comedic heroes growing up? Oh, well I mean that's different because I feel like when I have watched cuz I

didn't watch like standup. It was actually introduced to me >> when I was probably like 18 just because I was this Texas pumpkin that just didn't really know. And I think the first one I ever watched was um I believe it was See, I'm terrible. Oh, Ali Wong when she was pregnant. >> No way. Hey, that was your first standup special. >> Yeah. And I just completely lost it. So now it's almost like a morning thing where I'll like, you know, Benny will show me some of his favorite comedians

and it's actually I have a whole appreciation and you know obviously for Steve and Marty knowing their history and their stories, it's pretty >> it's pretty inspiring. I don't know how other than just I watched a lot of TV and I thought about the timing. >> But I will say Wizards was so fun because I I had the I had the room to mess up and it's okay if it really failed and was cheesy because >> it was Disney so it was fun. >> Yeah. >> Now this was a bit scarier.

>> Yeah. I would be intimidated to do a TV show with them. I have to say they're really deeply funny and they're really good joke writers. They're very good >> and their material like they're always searching for like the better joke and they're really they won't kind of rest until they get it. >> It's true. Trust me, I will be right in the middle of them figuring it out and I'm like, "It's funny, guys. It's funny, >> guys. We got it." I know. I mean, still, you know, when I work with them or

people that are kind of like trained in that world, it's still amazing to me how you'll think everything is really ready to go and people, you know, the best comedians will just keep going. But do you think up until the very last minute? >> That is something that I love though because it's so fun, but I must have heard their bits a hundred times that I could finish them. But so I just try to at a group hang I'm just listening and I'm laughing again and doing the whole

thing to just be like wow and it's the 20th time in person. But it's actually so sweet because they >> they've been best friends for like 35 or something. >> Their relationship is really awesome. >> So cute. I love it. >> And you know having truly I looked up to both of them when I was growing up. They I can't believe that I know them. Like I actually can't believe that they're friends of mine. >> Yeah. >> Who is someone that you can't believe you're friends with?

>> Uh honestly them and Merryill. Um >> I I can't even imagine like my life is really weird sometimes because I we have gotten incredibly lucky with people who love to just come and join our show. We want to create a space where people can fun

and you can be a quirky character or be whatever you want. >> Yeah. >> So I feel like >> I lost track of what I was >> Well, I was saying who can you believe you're friends with and Mel I mean >> I mean but everyone Davine I love Michael Kraton. I love >> Yeah. Um, >> you've had such >> Richard Kind. I'm sorry. He's one of my favorite. >> Bing Bong. >> I know. I am too obsessed with your movie but >> which every time I see Richard Kind and I've got gotten a chance to see him

recently, I have this reaction because of his voice because >> we never recorded together, but in in Inside Out, he played Bing Bong, an amazing character. And Richard is such a like >> big personality. >> He's so great. He's so great and it's but it's very filled with a ton of pos like you really feel big feelings >> Richard just makes me laugh. He doesn't even try. He's just one time he had to walk down a hall and open a door and he just like walked all the way down and we

watched him walk past the door that he was supposed to open to go to the next door and knock and then the other person answered from the other door and looked down the hall and he goes, "Oh, well I didn't know that." And I was like, "Yes, you did. We shot it like 15 times. >> And then do you guys improvise? Like do you do like do you >> do freedom takes is what we call them? >> Freedom takes. We called them on Parks and Recreation. We call them fun runs.

>> Oh, that's awesome. I like that. Sounds more fun. >> Freedom takes. >> Yeah, freedom takes. That's exactly what Marty will say. He'll be like, "Okay, okay, but let's do a freedom take and then and then we can have fun and do whatever and try things." It's funny when it's so funny and then it's hilarious when it doesn't land. >> Oh, I know. like get ready for it to be no one laughs and you're like >> you're like you're like I have a good idea. I can't wait to bring it out on

this freedom take and then you do it and everyone's like moving on. >> Yeah. Oh, and it's happened. I equally get it too because they they are they're very sweet to me but they'll they'll they'll let me know when a joke fails. They're like that didn't work. I was like okay. >> I really appreciate it. >> They're pros. They will not they will not say it's funny if if if it's not. Um, and okay, we should take a lip balm break, by the way. I sure I take a lip Do you have your lip?

>> Yeah, I do. Oh, what kind of balm do you use? >> You don't know which ones? >> Well, I mean, I'm sponsored by Lanesh. >> I see. Okay, but I could be sponsored by Rare Beauty. >> I'm not. You're hilarious. I want you to do what your contract says. But um my contract as if I have a beauty contract, >> you know, Selena, my beauty contracts, it's hard to mean. What do you mean? >> It's hard to keep them straight. >> So, I haven't used these because I want you to try this one. >> Okay.

>> Oh, these are great. >> Okay. The reviews in. They're great. >> If you just let them inh. So, let's get to Marty's question. Oh, good grief. >> Marty had a question for you and it was a sweet one, I think, because you know, he was saying, you know, he was like, I don't think I talk to Selena enough about her music, you know, and which is such a sweet I know. It's such a cute thing to say. Um, and I mean, also, let's point out that both Steve and Marty, on top of being, you know,

comedic geniuses are also excellent musicians. >> It's true. Um, but he he his question was very, you know, sweet, which is basically like just like Hold on, let me get it right. Oh, okay. So, he said like, "Who were some of your early musical influences and what was a song that you fell in love with early?" >> I know. Well, it was interesting because my dad growing up was a DJ. So, I definitely remember listening to a lot of 90s hiphop, >> but my mom was very um creative. So,

when she would paint, she'd listen to classical music when, you know, other things were happening, she'd kind of go with the energy. And then on my dad's side, it was a lot of tano music. So, I loved listening to all styles of music. >> What What's it What is it about Tahano music that makes it specifically that kind of music? How would you describe it to people who don't listen to it? >> I think Well, Linda Rona has an incredible album that is in Spanish and she

>> to me since you know the days of Selena Kinttonia who who kind of popped you know made it um like a pop version of it. >> Yeah. Linda's I thought was incredible too because it's so musically um charged. >> Yeah. >> The instruments make everything sound so grand and then you feel like you want to move. That's one of the best feelings. And >> it just just hearing her I don't know if you've heard any of that album but her it's so beautiful. >> She's definitely like a voice of my

childhood as well. like her. My mom used to play Linda Rosel and she's just an amazing singer. >> And you've you've recorded in Spanish, too. >> Does your voice change when you sing in a different language? >> It does. It's so weird. I don't know why. I only have one EP in Spanish and a few songs I've recorded in Spanish for various things. And I I don't know why. >> Yeah. I can imagine cuz it's like >> I don't know. It's you're yourself, but you're playing a just you're just

playing a different version of yourself, a character in a way. And it's it's so interesting to be singing >> a different language. >> Yeah. It's really It's really funny to me. I don't really get it, but I like it. >> Yeah. And you are now living with a musician. >> Yes. >> Two musicians. >> Yes. >> What's it like in a house with two musicians? Orange peels everywhere. >> Well, there's orange peels to go around. >> Yeah. And I'd say he's obviously I hands down

I hope everyone would agree with me. Um musically talented in a stratosphere that I couldn't even touch, you know. And I and it's not because I'm playing down myself. I I'm really not. I'm just I'm just saying I respect him as an artist, as a producer, as a songwriter, and everything that he does, he puts his whole heart into. I will listen to the same beats over and over and over. >> That's what I imagine is that he's playing a lot of beats. >> Yeah, he's creating things. I I I would

like to categorize myself um more as an actress, so there isn't any >> competition, I guess. Not that there would be. Uh, the last album I I released was with Benny and it was amazing. Uh, because I was proud of something and it was mine and ours and it was fun, >> but I I I think I think I really depend on him for, you know, any of the taste playlists, that kind of stuff. >> Congrats on your engagement. >> Thank you so much. >> And I have to say the other thing that

I've loved watching you over the years, again, not knowing you, but just like being like, "Oh, cool. Selena is trying this. Your cooking show >> I love a cooking show. >> Yeah. >> And I love cooking. And it was for me it was a new experience. I didn't really start cooking until I was in my 40s. I didn't really grow up, >> you know. Um I had a working mom. We didn't have, you know, we didn't there wasn't a ton of I didn't cook in the home when I was young and I had my kids.

I was working a lot. I didn't cook as much. And so I'm always drawn to people teaching me how to cook and watching people cook. You are too. What kind of So the whole This is what I I love when people say you are a chef because you had a cooking show. >> No. >> Right. >> But you like >> the idea. Yes. The idea and the concept of the show is that I simply don't know how. And I think over a few seasons, it's safe to say I still don't know how because it was incredible recipes that

were so intricate. >> And I think that was very challenging for me. Um, but it was fun because I'd get it right, but it would take me five to seven hours to do it. >> But what I liked about it is >> crazy. you know, you're you're basically to your point, you're watching somebody learn and you're learning with them and it's a very nice gesture to be even behind the people watching. >> Oh, yeah. That's actually what I do with Benny. Benny feels I I don't know if he'd like admit this,

but he likes when I sit in the kitchen with him because >> he tells me what he's doing. And I think it's the cutest thing in the world because I'll sit there and I'm just like, "You know what?" and he'll go, "So, we're going to we're going to make sure these onions are fully chopped and I'm going to caramelize them, whatever." See, I don't even know the lingo. He's like, "I'm going to do this. Chop the basil." And then he'd like completely loses himself in cooking.

>> And I love that. I just think it's so endearing. >> Well, I think cooking is a good way. Speaking of anxiety, for me, it's like a place to put anxiety. >> Yes. because it's very low risk, high reward. If you don't, if it doesn't work out, like whatever, you can just order it. I just tried. But if it does, you feel really good about yourself. >> You're very proud for sure. I I >> I enjoy cooking. I really do. I just find it very intimidating to do >> with many >> because he has

>> he has he's so good. He's just really good at it. >> It's almost just too threatening. So, one time I made dinner for my friends and he got so offended. He was like, "Why haven't you done that for me?" >> I'm like, "Cuz I was frozen and then I added a sauce." He does everything. >> I'm dealing with the sauce. I can't take I can't That's all I can talk to you right now. >> But I try. >> What is your What's a meal that you like that you know to cook and you cook?

>> Oh, my nana's chicken and dumplings. It's a very southern dish. It's very good. It's biscuits and >> these chicken strip not just shredded chicken and a soup. It's the best cozy weather. >> That sounds good. >> It's so fun. >> I love also, you know, to like zoom out. What was great about that show is, you know, it's just you enjoying food. >> Yeah. >> Because >> I love food. >> You talk a lot about making sure that you stay healthy. >> Yeah. What is your how has your

relationship with food changed? >> Uh, it h it hasn't necessarily changed. It's broadened. >> And Betty has spoiled me a little bit >> because he's again, not to talk about it, but like all all the time, but he would he would take a recipe and turn it into something even better. >> So, it's it's really funny. I'm just like totally airing him out right now. But it I think he he does this thing where he'll say I'll say, "Wow, this risoto is incredible." And he'll taste

it. He'll say, "Well, you know, I would um I probably would have added this, but it's very good. I just think if you put more and then like you see how this is set in and I just like to like stare at him because it's so cute. >> He's constantly tweaking it. >> He Yeah, he always he always says he can make it better. And it's not a lie. It's just the most adorable thing. He's going to be like, >> it's a very sweet like making food for someone is a really tender act. >> It is. It's really loving.

>> Very kind act. And um he I just get sometimes stressed cuz he doesn't need to do it. But he reminds me like you said, it's very therapeutic for him. >> At least I can speak for me where you just kind of start thinking about like what what do I want to make tonight? Okay. And your brain, you know, your high your your anxiety brain, your squirrel brain needs to land on something and then it can land on a list and it can think about timing and it can think and it like has to click clack

away on something and it's if it's just the meal that night, it can be really helpful cuz >> yeah, >> it's and it's also done. There's something about finishing that thing that you >> It's a feeling of accomplishment and I I totally get that. It's the same feeling as me watching like Tik Toks of people cooking. Those are my favorite. >> Me, too. >> I could just I just appreciate it so much. And it they're so interesting from different cuisines around the world and it's just really

>> Yeah, that's that's me. That would be my feed for sure. >> Do you go on Tik Tok? Because that must be treacherous. >> No. So, um I actually haven't been on Tik Tok. >> That's great. in >> I'm sorry Tik Tok but >> no it's okay all social media platforms I'm sure hate me at this point because I'm always like uh I don't know it's very >> 100 million Instagram followers >> so that it's fine but >> I mean it's fine sis >> well no I'm just saying I get so like

awkward about that because it doesn't I don't I don't understand it sometimes it's just a very interesting thing >> um because I my experience with social media I I think is we may share a similarity which is that I I feel it's like treacherous but it can be to your point like you can find ways to feel connection. >> Definitely. I think it's important for that element for me to have a connection with you know just my community. I'm not sure I'll always be that way forever. But

>> I think right now it's it's been >> a great resource for me to connect with people. I have not been on social media for a few months now. >> Even when I post sometimes it's just to make sure it's like like on my post and feed and then I don't look at anything. >> Well, you've been very generous in sharing your life with people and I see happening and and I feel good about it. doing it my way, you know, and I think if I were to get >> into something and I sorry I'm all over

the place, but and I also just want people to know like if it didn't come from me, it's >> it's 90% false or anything. I just love being able to say this is where I am and I'm enjoying it and >> I'm willing to share that part of my life and maybe it'll change, but I enjoy it. >> Yeah. And then the the it leads me kind of to um one of our last questions which is basically energy giving it getting it. Like it sounds like for every person in their 30s I would say it's one of the big

lessons is figuring out okay if your 20s is like trying to figure out you know what you don't want to do and who you don't want to be then your 30s become like okay let's let's let's give energy to the things that I want to have grow. Of course. >> So, how do you how do you what have you learned about, you know, self-care and boundaries and all this way in which you can be, you know, open about your life or you can share the things that you're happy about and you can feel the love

and support from people who have supported you but still keep >> I definitely don't read anything. I don't have comments enabled on my on my thing on my page uh just simply because I want it to be fun for me. I don't need anything else other than just >> me wanting to share that with with the world. Oh, sorry. >> That's my ride, guys. >> Wait, this is why Selena is such a pro is that she just stopped talking during a siren. That is >> you're just like you don't go looking

for trouble. I don't think it's it's healthy. So, I I'll say on the social part, if you're depending on it, it's really scary. >> Um, but have a healthy relationship with it. >> I think it's important. Um, but yeah, I don't I don't let anything in that I don't need because >> yeah, >> it's not where I am. >> And, you know, you kind of like spoke about karma earlier. What's amazing about the work that you do is you give a lot back. you you give a lot of your time

>> and you give a lot of your money >> and in many ways you know time can be >> harder to give than money and you give both and it's you have for a very long time like you toured with UNICEF for many many years you were an ambassador rare beauty gives a ton of money I was really impressed with what you guys do with >> and that's also the community because 1% of our products so it's it again it's people contributing to helping It's awesome. >> Young people have access to mental health.

>> When you are kind of oneon-one dealing with someone, you've now been famous for a really long time and you have a lot of people who grew up with you and feel really invested in you and that's energy, right? Like they want to they want to connect with you. You feel that. I know you've been like extremely >> loving and very supportive of people, but it's it's a lot to be approached sometimes with >> a lot of energy. So, what do you say no to now that you didn't before? Or how do

you kind of like guard your own energy, your own >> It's very difficult for me to say no. Um, two to people that I get to encounter. >> Um, if it's my nana taking her 14th picture of my outfit, I'm like, I can't do this. Stop. >> I've got to go. Um, >> I got to make your dumplings. I have to go make your dumplings. Um, but I I don't think I don't know how to how to answer that. I'm trying. >> Well, it's I mean maybe it's just become intuitive and also feels May I answer for you?

>> Yeah. Well, let me Yeah, cuz I'm thinking >> well because I feel protective of you because uh as a woman who um is older and you know I think you're be any woman in their 30s I think is doing that thing where they're trying to figure out basically what is expensive for me with energy basically you start Yes. >> protecting it. >> It is. And I think that'll happen more so if I when I have kids >> Yeah. I'll probably put more boundaries up for, you know, the sake of of the

sanity of, you know, what that will look like. I have no idea. But I I just I feel like I owe >> a lot of people in the world any sort of smile hug >> you know, picture. So, it's very hard. When I don't do it, I promise you it's because I'm I'm either really having a hard time dealing with my anxiety >> or I'm late. Like that's usually which >> but like if I have to go somewhere, but in in general it's it's it's very it's it's a lot cuz I love doing it. I think

about it too much where I'll think about if I missed that one person. It's so it it can get crazy in my head. And it can be a little crazy making and it's and and Marty said something really sweet which is like you know when when you guys shoot in New York >> um you know and there's whatever you know shooting in New York just like living in New York is just you're constantly on display and people will you know take uh photos and he said like Selena really understands that that's

kind of part of the exchange and it doesn't really bother her unless anyone is rude to anybody who's like >> you get very mama. get very Yeah, I actually that was probably one of the the pictures from season two. Someone said a vile word to someone else and it was a photographer, thankfully not a fan of the show, but I just looked at him and I gave him the finger and there's just one shot of me and he missed it. So, he wasn't even the one that got it because I looked at him and I was just like,

>> "Yeah." >> And he like the other people started laughing and I I was like, "I don't even care. I'm just so I can't tolerate that kind of stuff." But then they want that reaction. So then I'm like, >> "No, they're baiting you." But you know, you're a human being. I just >> One finger in 33 years. Like >> there's probably been a couple more. Probably a couple more. >> We could probably find them. >> It's fine. >> Okay. So I always ask my guests this. What what stuff are you listening to

right now, watching, reading that makes you laugh? Cuz it's not it's a it's there's a you've had in a beautiful couple of years and also, you know, in the midst of like there's a lot of heaviness in the world. Everybody's all we're all in different spaces and places and you've provided a lot of comedy for people who like really want to like your show provides that for a lot of people. >> Who does that for you? >> Who are you? >> Um well, it's more so the experiences I have. I love

>> I love encountering silly moments and spontaneity because you know >> I don't have a lot of that in my life cuz I try to schedule everything. So whenever something is spontaneous or even just being on only murders as long as we work it's those are the joyous you know making someone laugh or >> or just having you know your partner laugh with you and and you're watching a movie together. It it's >> What movies made you laugh lately? >> Lately uh Friendship.

>> Oh yeah. Tim Are you a Tim Robinson fan? >> Yes. >> Let's watch a Tim I love Tim Robinson so much. hilarious and very it was so funny because a lot of it like mixed emotions for people but I was just like this is just so funny because how you know broad it is >> him and Paul rhetoric it and also Tim Robinson is in like the best kind of insane I mean it's like where does he come up >> my kids are obsessed with Tim Robinson >> oh that's awesome >> and have you watched his TV show >> no

>> oh that's What? Yeah, that's what I need to get on. >> You're going to love it. >> It's cuz I >> I think you should leave. I think it's three seasons. >> Okay. >> It's so >> That's what I'll be doing now. >> It's >> I love it. I love it. But I'm also a big like lately we've seen all the horror films. So, >> okay. You like to be scared? >> I loved Weapons. That one that movie. Yes. Thank you. >> I know. I know. >> Oh, I just don't like to be scared. >> No, but I've heard it's amazing. About

70% of the people in my life children running and I was like that's a hell no for me. No way am I going to the move. Like two tickets please. >> No way. >> I know. >> No way. It's such a weird thing. I do. I do. But I love things that are interesting mentally. Not a lot of gore, but >> you want you want like a intriguy, suspenseful. >> Yeah. Give me the jump scares every now and then. >> What's your favorite horror movie or one of your favorites? >> All time. Um, >> what do you like?

>> I would say I don't know. I really loved um I'm trying to think. Barbarian. >> Oh, yeah. >> The Conjuring. The first Conjuring was really >> one that I'll never forget because I was >> You don't have to. If you don't watch it, then you never have to. >> That's true. That's true. >> So, I would say one of those for sure. >> Yeah. Okay. Well, I think you should leave is so great. You'll love it. Highly recommend. Watch one horror movie and then watch six episodes

>> deal cuz that's how we do. You know, I do have to watch something nice after cleanse. >> But no, I I'm so I have to and you're not the only person. And so I'm like, I need to have a new show to just laugh at. >> Well, thank you so much for coming. I'm >> so happy that I got to do this. Thank you so much for having >> It's a pleasure and truly congrats on all the good stuff that's coming your way and can't wait for what's ahead. I mean, future only, babe.

>> Yeah. Oh, that's the name of the book. Future only. >> Future only, babe. >> Babe, >> past is the past. All >> robots. Robots. >> Robots. >> Lip bomb. Um, >> tech all of it. >> Tech, >> tech, all of it. That's all. That's also your next chapter. >> That's tech all of it. >> All of it. >> And then just blank pages. >> And then you just have your grandmother's recipe. >> I love it. >> Thank you so much. It's so great. >> Thank you so much, Selena. Wow. You're

just a total peach. And it was really nice talking to you. And for this polar plunge, I just wanted in the spirit of what Selena does, right? She just gives back and she really tries to make sure that she's um donating her time and energy to to people who need it. I just wanted to um say that I've been working um a lot with Blood Cancer United and um they help people uh patients uh who are dealing with um cancer, all different kinds of blood cancers. And September is

childhood cancer month. Um so look, you know, I there may be some people listening right now who are dealing with it, uh who have experience with it, but there's just that moment when you really need support and love and the people at Blood Cancer United definitely provide that among many other things, resources, information. So, I don't know. I just feel very moved by uh the way Selena uses her platform and I in an attempt to do that today. I would encourage you all to go to

bloodcancerunited.org and donate what you can. Uh it makes a big difference especially in these times. Thank you so much for listening to this episode. Thank you Selena for coming and we'll see you soon. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss Berman, and me, Amy Polar. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paperkite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Cat Spalain, Kaia McMullen, and Alia

Xanerys. For Paperkite, production by Sam Green, Joel Levelvel, and Jenna Weiss Berman. Original music by Amy Miles. really good. Hey