Transcript: Sandra Bullock on Good Hang with Amy Poehler
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Hello everyone. Welcome to another
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episode of Good Hang. Boy, we are
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excited about our guest today. She's a
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gigantic movie star and an incredible
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talent and it's the one, the only Sandra
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Bulock. Sandy Bulock is here today and
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we talk about so many things. We're
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going to get into it. We're going to
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talk about um her love of physical
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comedy. We're going to find out her
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favorite German word and I'm going to
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try to guess what it means. We're going
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to talk about uh what a nightmare it is
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to stand next to Nicole Kimman on a red
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carpet and we are going to talk about
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her new movie Practical Magic 2 out this
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week. It is great. Check it out. She is
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incredible. We are lucky to have her and
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we always do this at the beginning of
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our episodes. We talk well behind our
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guests back and we find somebody who
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knows our guests and wants to give me a
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question to ask them. So, we are joined
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today by two of her co-stars from
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Practical Magic who play her daughters
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in the film and great, incredibly
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talented actresses in her own right,
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Joey King and Maisie Williams. Hello,
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ladies.
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>> [music]
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>> OMG,
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look at who I'm getting to talk to.
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Double trouble right over here.
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[laughter]
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>> Someone just rang my door.
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>> Wait, someone's at your door. Wait, take
- 1:58
us with you. Who is it? [laughter]
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>> My husband's answering. You know what I
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think? I think it's part of his
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anniversary present. I got him just
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arrived right at this moment.
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>> Oh my gosh. What did you get him? Tell
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us. We won't tell anyone. [laughter]
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>> I got cuz it's our three-year wedding
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anniversary. Keith's right over there.
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You're going to hear what I got. It's
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fine. Just go in the other room and go.
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[laughter] No, no, no.
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I got three years of leather. So, I got
- 2:22
him a really nice like leather carry-on
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like
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>> And someone's delivering it to the
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house. That's That's fancy.
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>> Well, well, I got it shipped cuz
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>> Okay. Okay. So, it's just it's someone
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[laughter] who shipped it. Okay. Got it.
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online.
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>> I thought it was like a white glove
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service where like a butler is
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delivering a a leather case. [gasps]
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>> I want my bag to have a butler.
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[laughter]
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>> Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry if we ruined
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the surprise, but that was excited when
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somebody rings the I mean, who
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>> I'm sorry someone rang the [laughter]
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doorbell.
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>> But who rings a doorbell anymore? Like
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there's no like we had this happen on on
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the show when when we were with um
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Rachel
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>> D.
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Amy, we know. We've seen it.
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>> [laughter]
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>> Oh my god, the best. I I that clip comes
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up on my feed all the time and I watch
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it just I watch it full through every
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time I see it.
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>> Joey King, Maisy Williams, I just want
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to say I love and have watched
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everything you guys have done. When I
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saw that you were in this in Practical
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Magic 2, when I saw that you were the
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the daughters in in the film, I was
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like, "Okay, okay, we're going heavy
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hitter here. We've got a four top a real
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heavy for top with Nicole [laughter]
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and Sandy and you two Mike. Incredible.
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>> Oh my god.
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>> Also, you're crushing it on Tik Tok.
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>> We love making Tik Toks.
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>> We really do.
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>> Tik Toks are so good. [laughter]
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>> Oh my god. It makes me so like I feel
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I'm like blushing that you watch them
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>> now. Joey, you've been you've been on
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Tik Tok for a a minute.
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>> Me? [laughter] Yeah. I've been I've been
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there from the beginning. Been there a
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while.
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>> You were there before co I believe which
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is
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>> of the birth. My sister got me on
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TikTok. I remember to promote one of the
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kissing booth movies. She was like, "You
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got to get on TikTok and start dancing."
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And I was like, [laughter] "All right,
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soldier.
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Whatever you say."
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>> Yep. And now here we are. I feel like
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I've been watching you guys depressed
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for this movie and it's been very cool
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to watch not only like I've said very
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talented women get to do um something
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very special together, but it does feel
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like you have all really enjoyed working
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together.
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>> Yeah, it was so much fun. It was It's
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kind of crazy. It was a year ago to the
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date that we finished, I think. Right,
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Joey?
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>> You're right.
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>> Yeah, it was so We spent the whole
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summer together. It was beautiful. And
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then doing all this press together has
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just been like such a dream.
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>> Just a lot of giggling actually. Yeah.
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>> So much so much giggling. Maisy's like
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my favorite woman ever. So this has just
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been like the greatest joy to make such
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a close friend through this film that's
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all about sisterhood. Every time, you
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know, they always are like, "What spell
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would you cast in press if if you had
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cast one spell?" And my answer every
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time is like, "I just want Maisy to live
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closer to me." [laughter]
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A
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>> that would be so nice living in LA and
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they're hanging out.
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>> We were literally in the waiting room to
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come on here and we're just like texting
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like we're just can't stop. We can't
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stop communicating. [laughter]
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>> Maisy, play your cards right and a
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leather briefcase will be handd
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delivered to your door in just a few
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years. Okay. So, we're talking I am
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talking to Sandra Bulock today. Um whom
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I I really don't think I have met.
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>> Okay.
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>> Yeah. I I I mean I am of the age where I
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I we may have met and and I forget, but
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I don't think so. We've never really
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properly met. What was your first
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experience meeting Sandy? And what do
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you love about working with her? And
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should I call her Sandy right away?
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>> I feel like yes, you should just rock
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straight in with Sandy. Okay.
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>> I feel like she'd love it. And she
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always introduced that way. I met her.
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She immediately offered me some Harry
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Bow, I think, which just like broke the
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ice, which was lovely. And it was at the
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read through.
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>> Just to be clear, that's a gummy bear.
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>> Yes. A gummy bear. Got it.
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>> Um, right. Yeah.
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>> Important to make that distinction.
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>> Yes. Um, and she texts us immediately,
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"It's your mother here." Like, how she
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gets that?
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>> Mother. [laughter]
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Mother.
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>> Take mother. It's your mother. It was my
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mother. [laughter]
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>> Um, and [clears throat] she just like
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ever since has just been like a mother
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to us on set. It's been so special. We
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went for a little sleepover at her
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house. It was cool.
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>> Wait, tell say more about that. What do
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you mean before you started shooting?
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You did?
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>> No, it was like after a night shoot. um
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after the night after a night shoot we
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went there and we had a little cocktails
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at like 6:00 in the morning [laughter]
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and then stayed over in her little
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cottage and then the next day we got to
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go in the hot tub. We raided her fridge
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and ate all her food. She had to go to
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work. She left us in the house and then
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we just like ate and sat on the sofa,
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watched like YouTube. It was nice.
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[laughter]
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>> It was so nice. It was I mean she's just
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the best. She's such a nurturing spirit.
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She's like, she's one of those people
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who, you know, she says that she'll
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always be there for you and she's like
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really means it. Like she'll answer the
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call anytime, any day. Um I've texted
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her in distress before being like, "I
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need your advice on something." And
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she's like, "Calling now." And so, and
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that's just such a she's such a she's
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such a a like a girl's girl and also
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just like I don't know. She's just I I'm
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so amazed by her and her and everything
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she's been through and she handles
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herself with so much grace and elegance
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and I just and she's she's just so hot,
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too.
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>> I know. She's so hot.
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>> She's so hot.
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>> It's It's a lot like it's a lot. It's
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hard to ask somebody like, "Why are you
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so hot?"
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>> I think you have to.
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>> That'll be my first question.
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>> Why are you so hot?
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>> Why are you so hot? No, but she has this
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thing. I mean, we've been like, you
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know, we get ready for our guests and
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we're like reviewing their body of work
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and her body of work is so diverse. It's
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incredible. She has been in a space
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movie that has made gazillion dollars.
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She has done like really deep, intense
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drama. She's done horror. She's done
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incredible physical comedy. She's been
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done hugely successful romantic
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comedies. She's done. She can do it all.
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How does she like to work? And what was
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it like working with her in this film? I
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mean like I love watching her. She she's
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almost like tinker like especially if
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it's like a physical comedy scene like
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she's really building it. She'll get to
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set early like she'll rehearse on her
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own. She'll like block with supporting
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artists and like she'll build it and
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build it and build it and each take she
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like adds something more. But it's like
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she's constantly finessing one idea and
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it's like so amazing to watch and it's
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like really nice to watch someone doing
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something that seems so off the cuff and
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so natural but they're like and they've
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thought about it a lot and they know
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what props they want to have and they
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and like I just I liked to see that on
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set. like it was a peak behind the
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curtain because everything she does is
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so funny and it seems so natural and
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seems just so in the moment but like it
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takes a lot of work for her to do
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something that she's like really happy
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with and we got to watch that time and
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time and time again on this movie. She's
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also just a really great uh generous
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actor too. Like there was just some
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stuff where we had where it was like
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really emotional for either me or
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Nicole. And like the way that she would
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support us when it was like our turn to
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have like a like a really tough moment
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or a big moment was so just beautiful.
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And it's like inspiring and and so
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special because she she takes her job so
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seriously and she also takes making sure
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others experience a good job too so
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seriously. I asked um the um the people
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that I get have the pleasure to zoom
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with um if they have a question for my
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guest and um I was curious if you think
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there's anything I should ask her today
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on your behalf.
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>> I think she's got such like there's such
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a lack of vanity to the way that she
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approaches physical comedy. Um, and I
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think it's really like I I get very
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self-conscious on set. And I know that
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there are times in her life where she
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feels self-conscious, but it's never in
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front of the camera. So, seems like it's
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never in front of the camera. And I just
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like has that always been just
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instinctive or is that something that
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she's like crafted? Like if she's
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feeling self-conscious, how does she get
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out of it? Like I just really I really
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want to know how she battles that.
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[laughter] I love that question, Maisy.
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I think that's such a good question.
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>> Okay. And what's yours, Joey?
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>> My question for Sandra is I want to know
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when the last time she just quietly
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thought to herself, does it get any
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better than this? Like, what's the last
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moment she had that was so does it get
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any better than this?
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>> Oh, that's such a beautiful question.
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And it's going to also um help her get
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back to that moment. That's a that's a
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really generous question. I'm excited to
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watch the episode because I'm excited to
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like see where she goes mentally with
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where where she where she arrives. I
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think that'll be special.
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>> Oh, that's a great question. You guys
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are so smart and talented. And the
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future, you're the future. So, we're in
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really good hands.
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>> And I've always said that. [laughter]
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>> And we all know that the future looks
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incredible and there's nothing to worry
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about.
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>> Yeah. Literally, it's perfect.
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[laughter]
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These are perfect in our hands. Come on.
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>> Well, thank you so much for your time. I
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know she'll be thrilled that I talked to
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you both. And I bet she's got the
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warmest things to say right back to you.
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So, um, thank you guys so much for doing
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this.
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>> We love you, Amy. Thank you for having
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us.
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>> Thank you so much for having us.
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>> Thank you so much. Such a pleasure to
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meet you both. Hope to get you in the
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stewed.
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>> Yes.
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>> Me with love.
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>> Great. Me, too. Okay. Bye.
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>> Bye.
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>> Bye.
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Sandra Bulock is here. We looked at the
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fake food. Yes, we did. I'm very very
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excited. Thank you for buying. I know
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you're in the middle of a lot of
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talking.
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>> I am I am super excited because I I'm
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I'm excited to be in the company of your
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brain. Truly.
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>> Same. And your sweater says shenanigans.
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>> It's from the film.
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>> It's something Aunt Jet says.
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>> And let's start there.
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>> Okay. because [laughter]
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when I was thinking about how to start
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this interview, which I've been very
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excited for, um, we were just talking
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about the fact that you really can do so
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many things well and how tiring it must
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be to be good at so many things.
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>> You know, it is [laughter]
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>> you're like you're you're a physical
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comedian. You're an incredibly
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successful producer. You can do really
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deep, meaningful things, big and small.
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You've been in huge hits. You've been in
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small
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>> in stinkers. You've been in [laughter]
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huge hits and some that have
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>> You've been in huge hits. You've been in
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things people don't choose to see.
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>> Yeah. Yeah.
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>> And you've withstood that.
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>> Yes. Um [laughter]
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>> did I?
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>> But you are to me you have what Lucille
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Ball has. You have what Carol Bernett
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has. You have like a physicality. You
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have timing. What did you guys laugh at
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in your family when you were little?
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Because you have you have really
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interesting creative parents. really
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interesting parents had. They're dead,
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so they're up here.
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>> Um,
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>> my mother was German,
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>> right?
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>> So, right there.
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>> What is she laughing at?
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>> Not funny.
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>> Um, [laughter]
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really did not have a sense of humor.
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Um which
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>> actually makes you want to challenge
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that on a daily basis.
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>> Yeah.
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>> My father was from Birmingham, Alabama.
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>> English, Irish, French, you know, like
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storyteller from the South. Mhm.
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>> So he had a rhythm of his own.
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>> Um but I really think I got it from
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trying to break my mother. [laughter]
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>> She was trying to break me.
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>> Yeah. By making her laugh and it was
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always when I hurt myself when I fell.
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[laughter]
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>> So which kind of goes
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you would laugh hard.
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>> She would laugh so hard. And I went my
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mother didn't laugh a lot. So to get joy
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out of her
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>> was everything. My dad I had I had in
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the pocket, but my mother really was
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someone that I knew wanted to laugh and
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needed it, but when I finally found it,
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>> it was like it was my little ace in in
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the pocket. It she she
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was a tough audience.
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>> Was there any American stuff that she
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laughed at that she liked when you were
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younger? Do you remember her laughing at
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anything or any liking any pop culture
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American TV?
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>> We didn't really have a lot of TV in the
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house. Like we didn't have magazines
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when I I lived overseas. We watched
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foreign films and you know I would
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always gravitate to the ones that had a
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physicality so you could understand it.
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>> Um
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>> but no, my mother was an artist. She was
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an opera singer and it was very serious.
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>> I'm in I'm incredibly intrigued by this.
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>> She was extraordinary and I noticed that
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now more than ever being a mom and
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seeing her practice her craft which was
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incredibly annoying to me.
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>> Yeah. Of course
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>> it was annoying. It was loud. Yeah.
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>> And it was in the basement of our house
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and it would permeate the whole
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neighborhood as we're playing like
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kickball outside. You hear her
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vocalizing and you're just like
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>> You have very good posture.
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>> I'm trying.
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>> Does did she have really good posture?
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>> Yes.
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>> Yeah. Breath control and all that stuff.
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>> All of it from the diaphragm. She was
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she so she was
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>> she practiced a high art. So did my
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father.
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>> Yeah.
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>> But he just had that southern thing that
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was more relaxed but also to control the
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room and put the remedies. She had no
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desire to put the remedies. [laughter]
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Incredible.
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>> None whatsoever.
- 17:02
>> I'm always fascinated by the people that
- 17:04
can stay quiet and that don't feel the
- 17:07
need to change the temperature in the
- 17:09
room. It's fascinating to me. It's like
- 17:12
a such a power move.
- 17:14
>> It is. It's funny that you bring that up
- 17:17
because today I had that very
- 17:19
conversation with my sister.
- 17:20
>> Mhm.
- 17:21
>> I was like, I am so tired of hearing
- 17:23
myself talk.
- 17:24
>> Oh, babe.
- 17:25
>> And she goes, I can I'm like, and it's
- 17:28
also the press junket. I feel like I'm
- 17:30
here to just share and do whatever. But
- 17:33
she says, "You know, it's also your
- 17:35
undiagnosed ADHD and your trauma
- 17:37
response." I went, "Okay." [laughter]
- 17:39
>> You're like, "Wow, you read for Phil.
- 17:40
Thank you so much." But has this ever
- 17:43
happened to you where you're on a
- 17:44
conference call and you're accidentally
- 17:47
on mute and you you're talking but
- 17:49
you're on mute and then you get off mute
- 17:52
and you realize like I've actually just
- 17:53
been the most powerful I've ever been by
- 17:55
not talking by pausing for more than 10
- 17:57
seconds. But I never do that. I have to
- 17:59
work at it. Okay. We were talking about
- 18:01
we were talking about your German mom,
- 18:03
but we're talking about opera.
- 18:05
>> I your relationship to music is really
- 18:07
interesting to me. I've learned that
- 18:09
about knowing you. Not only like, you
- 18:11
know, as a producer, you're picking
- 18:12
music for the projects you make.
- 18:14
>> There's really good needle drops that
- 18:17
are in films that you make because of
- 18:18
you, but you sang opera.
- 18:21
>> No, I DID NOT.
- 18:22
>> YOU [laughter] DIDN'T?
- 18:23
>> ARE YOU A SINGER?
- 18:24
>> Not even close.
- 18:27
>> Okay.
- 18:27
>> Not even. No, I'm not one of those who
- 18:29
says, "Oh, I can't sing." And then I'll
- 18:31
be in like the car and I'll belt
- 18:32
something out and they're like, "You've
- 18:33
got a great voice."
- 18:34
>> Okay. You know, you don't have a good
- 18:36
voice. I I should not be singing, but
- 18:39
what I have is great rhythm.
- 18:42
>> Yeah, I timing timing. So, but you sang
- 18:45
with your parents, were you not in
- 18:46
operas?
- 18:47
>> Yes, I was in the back.
- 18:48
>> I was in I was in the background.
- 18:49
There's always like some filthy child
- 18:51
stealing money and coins off the floor.
- 18:53
That was me.
- 18:54
>> That was [laughter] me.
- 18:55
>> And so, do you feel Did your mom want
- 18:57
you to be a singer? Did she ever want
- 18:59
you? No, she knew.
- 19:00
>> Look, [laughter] there could only be She
- 19:02
knew. Um, there was only one her.
- 19:06
>> And she was she was of the highest order
- 19:11
of of talent. She just she was the one.
- 19:13
I was the jokester. I found
- 19:15
>> my way to sort of level the vibe
- 19:17
anywhere was through that. So, she knew,
- 19:19
of course, at some point I would be
- 19:21
that. I was in theater and I did things
- 19:22
like that.
- 19:23
>> I didn't even attempt to sing.
- 19:25
>> I am going to my first opera very soon.
- 19:27
I've never been.
- 19:27
>> Which one are you going to?
- 19:28
>> Um, George Saunders. They're doing an
- 19:30
opera based on his book Lincoln and the
- 19:32
Bardau at the Met.
- 19:33
>> Really?
- 19:34
>> And I'm thrilled. But my question for
- 19:36
you is what like what what should I
- 19:39
prepare for?
- 19:41
Cuz have you I'm assuming you've been to
- 19:43
many.
- 19:44
>> Yes. And it's amazing how no matter what
- 19:46
the language when it's good, you
- 19:48
understand it all.
- 19:50
>> And it's it's the profoundity of the
- 19:52
performances and the set deck and the
- 19:55
it's grand. It's always grand. Um, I
- 20:00
remember as a kid I would be in the back
- 20:01
of the car and my mother would always
- 20:03
test me like she would play something.
- 20:04
She goes, "What does that make you
- 20:05
feel?" And I would I would lean in. I
- 20:07
would say, "This feels like someone's
- 20:08
losing someone or they're they're
- 20:10
looking for someone who's dead." You
- 20:11
know, like you you could feel it when
- 20:13
it's good. Um, when it's bad, it's bad.
- 20:16
>> Yeah.
- 20:16
>> Um, I think you're at the Met, you're
- 20:18
probably going to be just fine and it's
- 20:20
going to be amazing. [laughter]
- 20:22
>> I think you're going to be okay.
- 20:23
>> What a cool thing for your mom to do to
- 20:25
test you on what are you feeling,
- 20:27
>> what I was feeling. I mean, we would go
- 20:28
to Italy for the operas, just sit on the
- 20:30
stone steps and with our little ice
- 20:32
cream and just watch the animals come on
- 20:35
stage and the, you know, it was it was
- 20:36
it was just beautiful. It was really
- 20:38
beautiful.
- 20:39
>> And speaking of German, what can you
- 20:41
tell me your favorite German word? And
- 20:42
I'm going to try to guess what it means.
- 20:44
>> It's it's um
- 20:47
>> Say again, please. [laughter]
- 20:50
>> Shiskoff. I'm gonna say that is um the
- 20:53
feeling that you get [laughter]
- 20:57
>> when you're about to win an argument.
- 21:00
>> You're very close because [laughter] the
- 21:02
word would probably be used in the
- 21:05
argument is you right before the mic
- 21:07
drop moment. [gasps]
- 21:09
>> Oh my god, chills.
- 21:11
>> I speak German now.
- 21:13
>> Um
- 21:13
>> do you want to know what it means?
- 21:15
>> Oh yeah. What does it [laughter] mean?
- 21:16
Sorry. Means It's what my
- 21:19
mother would teach. All the boyfriends
- 21:21
were like, "Would you like me to teach
- 21:22
you some shaman?" And they were like,
- 21:23
"Yes, Miss Bulock, I really would." And
- 21:25
then she'd give them, you know,
- 21:27
And then, [laughter]
- 21:29
so she maybe she did have a tiny sense
- 21:31
of humor.
- 21:31
>> That sounds pretty funny.
- 21:32
>> Does sound funny.
- 21:33
>> That sounds pretty bright. She sounds
- 21:34
like a trickster.
- 21:35
>> She You know what? She is. She just
- 21:37
didn't know it at the time.
- 21:38
>> Yeah.
- 21:38
>> Of her life. [laughter]
- 21:40
>> It It came to her later on.
- 21:42
>> Well, I mean, I you everybody needs a
- 21:43
straight man and it feels like your mom
- 21:45
provided that. Yeah. um the you know
- 21:48
there's a million journeys to get to
- 21:51
being on screen and like you know you
- 21:53
you're performing you're acting you
- 21:55
moved to New York
- 21:56
>> you study at Meisner I I studied in
- 22:00
college uh the teacher that came to the
- 22:02
>> what college were you then East Carolina
- 22:04
University only because my best friend
- 22:06
in high school had an application my dad
- 22:08
really wanted me to go to a school of
- 22:09
the arts the top 10
- 22:11
>> I was not getting into any of them I
- 22:12
auditioned for one
- 22:14
>> was very unfortunate [laughter] Do you
- 22:16
remember what you auditioned with?
- 22:17
>> I don't recall. It's that traumatic.
- 22:19
>> Yes. I remember the smell of the room.
- 22:21
[laughter]
- 22:22
The smell of fear.
- 22:24
>> I remember the flop sweat and
- 22:26
>> Oh, it was it was this austere white
- 22:28
room. I was like, I'm not supposed to be
- 22:30
here. I'm not I wasn't I was pretty
- 22:32
oddly shy as a kid because we traveled
- 22:34
back and forth and I had a lisp
- 22:36
>> and my list still kind of comes out when
- 22:38
I'm like on this press tour. My lisp has
- 22:41
come out
- 22:42
>> when you're tired or talking to your
- 22:43
family or something. Yeah. And I didn't
- 22:45
really notice I had one until a few
- 22:47
years ago. I was working my coaster. I
- 22:48
was like, "You have a lisp." And I was
- 22:49
like, "Fuck her." [laughter]
- 22:51
>> You were like, "Stop paying attention.
- 22:52
>> Stop. Why are you looking at my mouth?"
- 22:54
>> Yeah.
- 22:55
>> Worry about [laughter] yourself.
- 22:56
>> But I I didn't I wasn't baked. I wasn't
- 22:59
mature enough. I was very sheltered. So
- 23:01
I could never have made it in any of
- 23:04
those environments. I did not have the
- 23:05
confidence.
- 23:06
>> Did you like studying all like that
- 23:07
miser technique?
- 23:09
>> Very much.
- 23:10
>> So for people who don't know what miser
- 23:11
technique is, it's kind of cool. What
- 23:13
what how would you explain it?
- 23:14
>> Premise is being truthful in imaginary
- 23:16
circumstances going. So I I wasn't
- 23:18
comfortable when they would say lay on
- 23:19
the floor and you're going to fry like
- 23:21
bacon. And I was like I'll never be cast
- 23:22
as that. This will never it felt
- 23:24
artificial to me. It didn't. But Meisner
- 23:27
they give you a piece um started off
- 23:29
with you know this these siloquies in in
- 23:32
a book. You had to go and do an
- 23:34
emotional preparation as if going, okay,
- 23:36
this never happened to you, but prepare
- 23:39
as closely as you can to the emotion and
- 23:41
the feeling of getting to this. What
- 23:43
would make you feel like this?
- 23:45
>> And it gave you a tool outside of
- 23:49
>> um yourself that made s at least for me,
- 23:51
it made sense to hang on. And also
- 23:52
listening.
- 23:53
>> Yeah.
- 23:54
>> Which we're probably not very good at
- 23:57
because we like we like to, you know,
- 23:59
>> you know what? I'm good at it.
- 24:01
>> You are.
- 24:01
>> And so are you. I've seen it. Active
- 24:03
listening. You're very good at it. And I
- 24:05
am too.
- 24:06
>> It's learned. It's it it not always. Not
- 24:09
always.
- 24:09
>> But can't you tell
- 24:11
>> very quickly when you're with someone
- 24:13
who's not listening and there's like
- 24:15
there's no lonelier feeling. Yeah.
- 24:16
>> When you can tell when you're talking
- 24:19
and you can tell that someone's dead
- 24:21
behind the eyes,
- 24:21
>> it kind of makes me [laughter] sad.
- 24:23
>> Makes me sad, too.
- 24:24
>> Makes me really sad.
- 24:25
>> And I maybe it's co maybe it's a little
- 24:27
codependency. Maybe it's like a little
- 24:29
bit of making sure I'm staying
- 24:30
connected. I I I think I I I think you
- 24:33
can still be a good listener while
- 24:34
you're talking. Yes. Or while if you're
- 24:36
if you consider yourself a talker.
- 24:37
>> Yes. And if you've done enough therapy,
- 24:39
too, you've learned that, you know, it
- 24:41
it
- 24:42
>> requires you to just stop.
- 24:44
>> Yeah.
- 24:45
>> And that all of that it's it's all of
- 24:48
that together in a pile. And I got very
- 24:50
lucky that this teacher came in to teach
- 24:52
the Meisner technique. And
- 24:54
>> it was always the girls in class who
- 24:55
could cry on the spot. And I'm like,
- 24:57
"Oh, there's such brilliant actors. She
- 24:59
can cry." You know? Never could get
- 25:01
there.
- 25:01
>> No tears.
- 25:02
>> No, I can't. Unless I feel it. What? You
- 25:05
don't like the tears? You
- 25:07
>> I I have a whole thing about tears.
- 25:09
>> Just explain.
- 25:10
>> Well, I think that tears, to your point,
- 25:13
are very effective,
- 25:15
but people just like being flexible.
- 25:18
People can sometimes are just good at
- 25:19
tears.
- 25:20
>> Like they were just born being good at
- 25:22
tears
- 25:23
>> and keeping them like perched right
- 25:25
there. And then it just
- 25:26
>> when I cry, it's the square mouth. It's
- 25:29
like things tilt. It implodes. And it's
- 25:31
there's nothing cinematic about.
- 25:33
>> I heard that Elizabeth Moss, I don't
- 25:34
know if this is true. Elizabeth, write
- 25:36
in. Call in.
- 25:37
>> That she can pick what eye she's going
- 25:39
to cry out of. Stop.
- 25:40
>> That's what I heard.
- 25:42
>> Isn't that Isn't that an incredible
- 25:43
rumor?
- 25:45
Lizzy, call us. Because she's so good at
- 25:49
crying. The people that are able to go
- 25:51
blink and drop a tear.
- 25:53
>> I'm I'm sort of like I'm having a little
- 25:55
FOMO like right now. I wish I had.
- 25:57
>> But I think it's like being able to
- 25:58
touch your toes or something. Like you
- 25:59
either have it or not.
- 26:00
>> Well, I can do that. No one wants to see
- 26:02
how it feels.
- 26:02
>> Not all of us can, Sandy.
- 26:04
>> Well, have you been practicing? It
- 26:06
requires
- 26:06
>> I know. I tried to touch my toes with
- 26:09
John Cena when he was in here and he was
- 26:12
[laughter]
- 26:12
>> That's not a euphemism.
- 26:16
>> How dare you? And
- 26:17
>> he touched his toes so well.
- 26:20
>> He touched his to the floor.
- 26:22
>> I can see that.
- 26:24
>> Are you that flexible?
- 26:26
Can you do that? Damn it.
- 26:28
>> But I practice. I I practice.
- 26:31
>> I practice. [sighs and gasps]
- 26:32
>> Okay. Speed. Okay. So [laughter] then
- 26:34
you audition.
- 26:35
>> Then you audition for speed.
- 26:37
>> No. Um
- 26:37
>> where I had to be flexible.
- 26:39
>> Yeah. You probably did have to be
- 26:40
flexible in speed. Uh you've talked
- 26:42
about this before, but I'm really those
- 26:44
early days of like walking into rooms,
- 26:46
trying things, like you were saying, not
- 26:48
being fully cooked, but feeling excited
- 26:50
about stuff, knowing that you had the
- 26:52
passion, but maybe not the experience
- 26:54
yet, but going for it. Those swings
- 26:56
>> feels like really paid off with speed.
- 26:58
You were able to like meet the moment of
- 27:00
that movie
- 27:01
>> with the enthusiasm that that character
- 27:03
needed. And that audition process, I've
- 27:06
read about it, read about it, and read
- 27:08
about you talking about it, but it
- 27:08
sounds really funny and fun. It's in in
- 27:11
in retrospect,
- 27:14
>> right? But
- 27:14
>> again, there was again like the audition
- 27:16
for the school I didn't get into. Yeah.
- 27:18
There's a lots of sching and just you're
- 27:21
outside of your body. And I think from
- 27:23
New York, I was I was a waitress. Every
- 27:25
Thursday I got the backstage magazine. I
- 27:27
pounded the pavement. You went to your
- 27:29
little auditions with your your head
- 27:31
shot and you just
- 27:32
>> you just had to do it. So I was
- 27:34
comfortable just doing it.
- 27:36
>> Yeah.
- 27:36
>> Um
- 27:37
>> did you have to pretend you were on a
- 27:38
bus when you were auditioning?
- 27:39
I was on a folding chair and they gave
- 27:41
me a paper plate. [laughter]
- 27:43
>> I think I have to say, you know, we talk
- 27:45
about acting a lot on this because I
- 27:47
talked to a lot of actors. I think
- 27:48
everybody should have to do that once to
- 27:51
feel like, you know, you think in life
- 27:54
like I've felt what it's like to be
- 27:55
humiliated and you're like, no, you've
- 27:58
not.
- 27:59
>> And then they bring in Kiana Reeves like
- 28:00
when they in the call back and you're
- 28:02
just like, am I still on the chair with
- 28:03
paper plate? Yes. Still the plate. Okay.
- 28:06
Okay.
- 28:07
[laughter]
- 28:08
Associate and driving.
- 28:13
>> Did you do a little [laughter] roll down
- 28:15
the window?
- 28:19
>> My back there cuz the bus has all these
- 28:21
levers here.
- 28:21
>> Adjust the mirror.
- 28:22
>> The hydraulics.
- 28:24
>> There's all kinds of stuff going on that
- 28:25
I was like, you know.
- 28:26
>> Yeah.
- 28:27
>> Checking the glove compartment.
- 28:28
>> There's no glove compartment on the bus.
- 28:30
[laughter]
- 28:31
>> I mean, I don't know. Is there
- 28:32
>> Maybe there's an air freshener. There's
- 28:34
a million. Not air fresher. Um, that
- 28:38
movie is so huge. It's huge for you. You
- 28:41
and Kanu, lifelong friends. You create
- 28:43
this incredible chemistry together.
- 28:45
>> We didn't create it. It just shows up.
- 28:48
>> It shows up. You're right. And you have
- 28:50
chemistry with So, you are really,
- 28:52
really good.
- 28:52
>> I'm like a skunk. I kind of just spray
- 28:54
it. [laughter]
- 28:56
>> You're like, she's ready.
- 28:58
>> And whoever's in the line OF FIRE.
- 29:00
>> WHATEVER DOGS are start coming in.
- 29:03
[laughter]
- 29:04
>> That's what people don't realize. You
- 29:06
have to like
- 29:07
>> I agree. You got to you got to turn the
- 29:09
channel. You got to But what what but
- 29:12
talk about chemistry for a second
- 29:13
because people love to talk about it.
- 29:14
But what like what what what was it
- 29:15
about you and Keanu that like
- 29:17
immediately you just felt
- 29:19
>> I think with us we're so different.
- 29:22
>> We're so He is very
- 29:24
>> reserved and zen. And as we were saying
- 29:27
earlier,
- 29:28
>> give us a silent room and you can watch
- 29:30
us spin out. So, anytime he's silent,
- 29:33
I'm like the whirling dervish around his
- 29:34
silence and he's just waiting for me to
- 29:36
wear myself out.
- 29:38
>> He's just patiently waiting and then he
- 29:40
often doesn't respond to what I say, you
- 29:42
know, and then until like maybe a day
- 29:43
later when he's thought about it. So,
- 29:46
>> it's it's someone to learn from in terms
- 29:48
of what you and I need to work on.
- 29:50
>> Yeah. The tortoise in the hair kind of
- 29:51
thing. Yeah.
- 29:53
>> But you've worked with really really
- 29:56
different leading men. I and they all
- 29:59
have
- 30:01
they they are good at playing.
- 30:03
>> Yeah.
- 30:04
>> They're just like they're there to
- 30:05
volley back. And I think because I am
- 30:08
not the fem fatal. I am I am the the
- 30:10
tomboy. I am the one that'll get in
- 30:13
there with the guys and you know
- 30:15
>> I think that's why it works for me
- 30:17
because I love being poked. I love
- 30:19
being, you know, just be the needle and
- 30:21
just trying to get at me because that's
- 30:22
a spark for me rather than
- 30:24
>> the real sweet stuff which I just go
- 30:26
it's uninteresting to me. It's goes back
- 30:28
to timing and women who have that and
- 30:31
I'm just I can watch you all day long
- 30:34
but your respect and support of
- 30:37
>> your opponent because it is like a
- 30:39
match.
- 30:40
>> It is and it's a little bit a tiny bit
- 30:42
competitive in a fun way. in a fun way,
- 30:44
but it's also I see you have so much
- 30:47
respect for the person opposite you. I
- 30:50
feel it. I feel it in you. You wait like
- 30:52
even in the bloopers and the outtakes, I
- 30:54
see you giving the person grace enough.
- 30:57
You're like, "Am I going to step in on
- 30:58
this one? I'm going to step in on this
- 30:59
one." I see it. And it's a rhythm that
- 31:02
just it you feel it here. I feel it
- 31:04
here.
- 31:04
>> And don't you feel I feel like people
- 31:06
have music like they just have a rhythm
- 31:09
and to figure out how to make it work is
- 31:11
you have to just kind of get into their
- 31:12
song. It's like
- 31:13
>> Yeah. Yeah.
- 31:13
>> And then I think the reason why people
- 31:15
like actors or performers or writers or
- 31:18
whatever is they just like like their
- 31:19
music. They like their song.
- 31:21
>> Yeah. It's like when someone says you
- 31:22
have good taste, that means you have the
- 31:24
taste that I have. [laughter] Like you
- 31:26
know what I mean? It's like you have
- 31:27
nice taste. This is what I would do. You
- 31:28
know it's
- 31:29
>> Yeah. That's so true. Gravity.
- 31:32
>> I want to ask you questions about
- 31:33
gravity. I mean, well,
- 31:34
>> I love talking about
- 31:35
>> Oh my god. I have I have so many
- 31:37
questions.
- 31:38
>> Ask away because I don't think it it
- 31:40
Yeah. Go ahead. Well, you were before we
- 31:44
get to gravity, you know, you won for
- 31:46
the Blind Side Oscar. You've been
- 31:48
nominated many times. How many times?
- 31:49
>> No, I've been nomin I've nominated twice
- 31:51
and one once.
- 31:51
>> Okay. Well, that's more than once.
- 31:53
>> It's like a 50 50 I have 50%, right?
- 31:56
>> 50%. Okay.
- 31:57
>> Several. You've been nominated several
- 31:59
times. [laughter]
- 32:00
>> And you won an Oscar and a Rousey in the
- 32:04
same weekend. Incredible. Balance.
- 32:05
Balance.
- 32:06
>> Incredible. of
- 32:07
>> I came and took the razi back cuz I went
- 32:08
home with it and they were like, "You
- 32:09
can't have this." I was like, "Yes, I
- 32:11
can." [laughter]
- 32:12
>> They were like, "We only have one.
- 32:13
>> We only have one."
- 32:15
>> We had Dakota um Johnson on here. Dakota
- 32:17
Johnson told a really nice story about a
- 32:20
voicemail that she got from you.
- 32:21
>> She's one of the She's one of us.
- 32:22
>> What did you What did you do when she
- 32:24
won her Razie?
- 32:25
>> Called her and welcomed her to the club.
- 32:27
[laughter]
- 32:29
>> What did you win your Razie for?
- 32:30
>> Um All About Steve, a film I did with
- 32:32
Bradley Cooper. Yeah.
- 32:34
>> And we never heard from him again.
- 32:36
Exactly. He just he just [laughter]
- 32:39
[applause]
- 32:45
>> But a movie like Gravity, I'm just going
- 32:47
to put out there, is a really big, deep,
- 32:51
lots of It is you by yourself, camera on
- 32:55
your face movie.
- 32:57
>> So, what was it like to shoot mostly and
- 33:01
often by yourself?
- 33:02
>> What did it feel like?
- 33:03
>> Um, there was so much
- 33:05
technology and like in in in within the
- 33:08
box set that I was literally within the
- 33:10
box if I wasn't on the wires. Um and if
- 33:12
I wasn't with George
- 33:13
>> um it was music.
- 33:16
>> It was the only relationship I had was
- 33:18
to our sound
- 33:20
>> mixer
- 33:21
>> and Alonso because the whole stage was
- 33:23
black and and so I had earwigs in
- 33:27
>> um and so I said to the the sound guy, I
- 33:29
said, "Look, there are these because it
- 33:30
was all rhythmic. I my body had to be
- 33:32
very slow like Martha Graham. And I kept
- 33:34
looking at a dance teacher that I had at
- 33:36
ECU who came from um Alvin Ay
- 33:39
>> and taught me how to not throw my body
- 33:42
around. He goes, "You got to stop
- 33:43
throwing your body around." As he'd
- 33:44
throw me up against the wall and I'd be
- 33:46
like me, I'm coming back. Um but I
- 33:49
learned how to disconnect the head from
- 33:51
the body because the head could speak at
- 33:54
normal speed and the body had to move
- 33:56
>> like that. You know, everything had to
- 33:58
be what it would be in gravity as I was
- 34:00
looking at a dot. That's George. That's
- 34:02
a Soy use. That's And the sound
- 34:06
mixer had we chose selections of sounds
- 34:09
and music and songs and vibes that I
- 34:13
like you said, you start vibing with a
- 34:15
project. I was like, "This song reminds
- 34:16
me of this right here. This makes me
- 34:18
feel this moment."
- 34:19
>> You know, what makes me feel absolute
- 34:22
silence? What you know what? So, I would
- 34:24
say I'm not getting there. I play two,
- 34:26
seven, and five, and then I'll get to.
- 34:28
And he just was my life mixer. He would
- 34:30
mix it and just get me to
- 34:32
>> Is there any music that you'd be willing
- 34:35
to share that you listen to that?
- 34:37
>> I don't even remember, but I just
- 34:38
remember at the end he gave me this tiny
- 34:40
little,
- 34:41
>> you know, what's it called? Like, you
- 34:43
know, tiny little thing with like a hole
- 34:46
where he'd plug in, you know, and he
- 34:47
just handed it to me and I was like,
- 34:49
>> "That's my performance."
- 34:51
>> Wow, that's so cool.
- 34:53
>> So, it tapped into my body cuz my body
- 34:55
had to do these strange zero G things.
- 34:57
>> You were just faking the whole time.
- 34:59
Everything was faking. Like everything
- 35:01
George and I were in the the pod and
- 35:03
Alonso was giving us notes and they
- 35:05
said, "Does anyone want a water?" And I
- 35:07
said, "I do." And they handed it to me
- 35:08
and I grabbed it and George goes, "You
- 35:09
know what you just did, didn't you?" I
- 35:10
said, "No, I have an idea." He goes,
- 35:11
"You were like this."
- 35:14
>> Everything was very slow and I was kept
- 35:15
talking to Alonso and I grabbed the
- 35:17
water, but my body was so used to having
- 35:20
>> That must have somatically been really
- 35:22
cool. Like
- 35:23
>> it must have been peaceful.
- 35:24
>> It was very peaceful.
- 35:25
>> Yeah.
- 35:25
>> Yeah.
- 35:26
>> Well, it was a humongous hit. Congrats.
- 35:28
Didn't do bad. Yeah.
- 35:29
>> And you had just adopted your son,
- 35:30
right?
- 35:31
>> Lubert. Yes. Lubbert. We called him
- 35:32
Lubert T. Jones. That was his name on
- 35:34
the because he was just I had dressed
- 35:36
him in these cute little English vests
- 35:37
and he had these little hats. [laughter]
- 35:38
He was so cute. Cutest baby ever.
- 35:40
>> I mean, still cute, but that was super
- 35:41
cute. Yeah. Um it was just it was an
- 35:44
amazing experience because for Alfonso
- 35:47
and his son and they wrote it together.
- 35:48
It was about his sort of feeling lost
- 35:51
and e having an existential
- 35:54
moment in life of despair and how do you
- 35:57
show that in space you go to space.
- 35:59
>> It was it's such an incredible movie.
- 36:01
Beautiful movie. And your performance is
- 36:03
incredible.
- 36:04
>> Thank you.
- 36:04
>> And George too.
- 36:06
>> I mean it's it's all just exactly where
- 36:09
it needs to be.
- 36:10
>> Yeah. and and it it like space films
- 36:15
about space I kind I'll kind of watch
- 36:17
anytime but the feeling of like I don't
- 36:20
want to go to space I guess is what I'm
- 36:21
saying
- 36:22
>> nor do I
- 36:22
>> okay good let's not go yeah
- 36:24
>> and what was it like working with clones
- 36:26
>> you know what I've known Cloon since
- 36:27
before he got um
- 36:28
>> is that how he what he likes to be
- 36:29
called
- 36:30
>> senor clones
- 36:31
>> he like he prefers
- 36:33
>> Amal calls him that now
- 36:34
>> senor [laughter]
- 36:36
>> um when did you guys first worked was
- 36:38
had we we'd only worked together then
- 36:40
but it's first met when he was, you
- 36:42
know, on back porches of all their
- 36:44
friends drunk doing Buddy Hacket
- 36:45
imitations and like this was before um
- 36:48
what was that the show he did where he
- 36:51
was a doctor, you know, er that thing.
- 36:53
Yeah, it's before he got the other ER.
- 36:54
>> The other ER, but it's where he was
- 36:56
doing all the P he was like George of
- 36:57
the Pilots before he became
- 36:59
>> Wait, did you just say what is the show
- 37:01
where he was the doctor?
- 37:02
>> Yeah, you know the doctor show.
- 37:03
>> Oh my god. Eer,
- 37:05
>> I know I said ER. You you have
- 37:07
>> I've watched ER three time, you know.
- 37:09
I've watched the entirety of erent
- 37:12
>> the last time was during co
- 37:14
>> well it's worth it everyone is stellar
- 37:16
[laughter]
- 37:17
>> it's so
- 37:19
>> yeah they're just it's yeah so George is
- 37:22
>> a player he will play and he will bat
- 37:25
things back and forth and he is
- 37:27
>> he's fun George is fun
- 37:30
>> you guys were great together
- 37:31
>> really great together I mean
- 37:32
>> we're good in space together I don't
- 37:34
know how we'll do on land but on space
- 37:35
we're amazing
- 37:36
>> in space in space we're
- 37:38
[laughter]
- 37:39
[gasps] There's no one out there that
- 37:40
can compete with us.
- 37:41
>> I'll only work with him in space and and
- 37:42
this one I'll only work with underwater.
- 37:44
>> Exactly.
- 37:45
>> But now we're talking about Practical
- 37:46
Magic, which you're doing tons of press
- 37:48
for, first of all. And I just love I
- 37:50
mean I I know it's weird to talk about
- 37:52
the press people are doing, but just
- 37:54
watching you and Nicole talk is so nice
- 37:57
and relaxing. You guys are such
- 37:59
opposites in the best way. Nicole is
- 38:02
just kind of on a different channel
- 38:05
>> and in her and like in a re and really
- 38:09
>> she's regal.
- 38:10
>> She is
- 38:10
>> she's regal
- 38:11
>> and she's also very playful
- 38:15
>> and so are you but you play totally
- 38:17
differently
- 38:17
>> and to see her play is really nice cuz
- 38:20
you don't get to see that a lot. You
- 38:21
know she's on this one
- 38:23
>> cuz the what I had to carry wasn't
- 38:25
really sexy for a comedian because I was
- 38:28
like I'm grieving.
- 38:29
>> Yeah. I'm having issues with my
- 38:31
daughter right?
- 38:32
>> I'm battling with fear and all that
- 38:33
stuff. And then she got the fun roll.
- 38:36
[laughter] And I was like,
- 38:39
where can I find moments that are
- 38:41
appropriate within these dire
- 38:43
situations? And we kept with the writer
- 38:45
writing these fun lines for Nicole. And
- 38:47
she she didn't want to do like she was
- 38:48
like, I don't this I don't want to be
- 38:50
the comedic sidekick. I'm like, yes, you
- 38:51
do.
- 38:52
>> Yes, you do.
- 38:52
>> That's what you want. Promise. And she
- 38:55
just took to it. Like she found her she
- 38:58
found her rhythm. Yeah.
- 38:59
>> And she's really good at it.
- 39:01
>> Yeah. I mean, the friendship you guys
- 39:03
have is really cool to watch. I mean,
- 39:04
it's very authentic. You I'm I'm I know
- 39:08
the female friendships are very very
- 39:09
important to you. They've I would
- 39:11
imagine in many as they are to you.
- 39:12
>> Absolutely. What have the women in your
- 39:14
life done and the friendships in your
- 39:15
life done for you?
- 39:16
>> I everything. It's it's like it it I
- 39:19
don't think I can quantify it because it
- 39:21
changes with the seasons. It changes
- 39:23
with our changes. It changes with where
- 39:25
we are and where we're not. Um, and it
- 39:29
you know what they they give me a
- 39:30
tremendous amount of grace.
- 39:33
>> Um, they judge like my sister will be
- 39:35
like, "She's doing that thing again."
- 39:36
You like, but my sister will sit there
- 39:38
and allow that thing to pass because she
- 39:40
knows my history. She knows where it's
- 39:42
coming from.
- 39:43
>> Even though she wants to kill me,
- 39:45
>> she's she's she's going to wait it out.
- 39:47
>> Yeah. That's what I always say about
- 39:48
friends is they know you really well and
- 39:50
they like you anyway.
- 39:51
>> Oh, yes.
- 39:52
>> You know, it's like they really really
- 39:55
know you and yet they still take your
- 39:56
call. Yeah. And hopefully I mean it's
- 39:59
really important for me to be a good
- 40:01
friend.
- 40:01
>> What's your conflict style? Do you are
- 40:03
you a retreater?
- 40:05
>> I'm a mix I'm a mixed bag. I'm a little
- 40:06
sprinkle of but it also depends on who
- 40:09
I'm opposite what their style is. You
- 40:11
know I know every that's sort of the the
- 40:12
vernacular right now is like I'm an
- 40:14
avoidant, you know, whatever.
- 40:16
>> I I am probably a little bit of
- 40:18
everything depending on who I'm opposite
- 40:20
>> and how safe I feel.
- 40:22
>> Yeah.
- 40:22
>> Because in what we do
- 40:24
>> Yeah. Unless it's very close
- 40:26
relationships. Yeah.
- 40:27
>> You don't know who's coming to you with
- 40:30
safety and giving you a safe place.
- 40:32
>> So, it just depends. Um,
- 40:34
>> but I can read people really well.
- 40:36
>> I bet.
- 40:37
>> And I don't always heed my own warning
- 40:40
until like three beats later I'm like, I
- 40:43
knew it. But, you know, I'm like, I want
- 40:45
to give them a shot. I want to, you
- 40:46
know, like whatever they're coming at
- 40:47
me, maybe it's this, maybe they're
- 40:49
having a hard day. And then three beats
- 40:51
later I'm like, it's what I thought it
- 40:53
was.
- 40:53
>> Yes. Yeah.
- 40:54
>> Yeah. That instinct of feeling something
- 40:57
and listening to it and responding to it
- 40:59
like that to me is like a lifetime of
- 41:00
work basically. It's like our entire
- 41:02
life is to figure out like how to
- 41:04
shorten the distance between what we
- 41:06
sense
- 41:07
>> and what we
- 41:09
act on.
- 41:10
>> But do you don't you think that's also
- 41:12
being a woman? like we we have we have a
- 41:15
more sensitive meter or I feel we're
- 41:17
also conditioned in this you know social
- 41:21
universe that
- 41:22
>> we are not to
- 41:23
>> trust that
- 41:24
>> well we become experts in other people
- 41:27
>> and we become really really aware of how
- 41:30
people are acting and changing
- 41:32
>> and to your point we like we're
- 41:34
conditioned to give a lot of grace
- 41:36
>> like that's why like someone like your
- 41:38
mom who's like I'm going to be an island
- 41:41
and you're going to have to come to me
- 41:42
is still ly fascinating to find in a
- 41:44
woman
- 41:45
>> because it's still just like
- 41:47
>> whoa, she's not saying anything and
- 41:49
she's not pleasing anybody
- 41:52
>> and she really does not care that people
- 41:55
are projecting all this stuff on her.
- 41:56
It's fascinating.
- 41:57
>> Yeah. I mean, the way you're saying that
- 41:59
I'm going I'm getting to know my mom,
- 42:01
you know, like I I feel like I am
- 42:02
getting to know my mom
- 42:04
>> as I become more of a mom, you know,
- 42:06
with each day. I'm like, "Oh, I see why
- 42:08
she said that. I see why." I mean,
- 42:10
practical magic has a lot of those
- 42:11
themes, like beautiful themes about like
- 42:13
you talked about history, trauma, pain,
- 42:17
the idea of protecting the people that
- 42:18
you love. The idea of like what is a
- 42:20
like what is a mother's burden and
- 42:23
blessing? What does she get to do? What
- 42:24
does she have to do? It's so great.
- 42:27
>> And you're playing a witch
- 42:30
>> 30 years later almost from when you
- 42:32
played it before. And I'm so interested
- 42:34
in this idea in general that as women
- 42:35
get older, like there's something that
- 42:37
gets very witchy about us. We've always
- 42:39
had it.
- 42:40
>> It is. It's the lag time. Those three
- 42:43
beats become one beat,
- 42:45
>> right?
- 42:45
>> You're no longer, you know, like you're
- 42:47
no longer waiting or second guessing
- 42:49
yourself. You go, it just is.
- 42:50
>> Yeah.
- 42:51
>> You because you've had enough instances
- 42:52
in life to prove you correct
- 42:55
>> when you had that feeling. It's called
- 42:57
mother's intuition for a really good
- 42:59
reason. Women's intuition. Like it's
- 43:01
>> we are extra sensitive to things and
- 43:05
it's it's a both a blessing and a curse.
- 43:06
But I think as you get older, you just
- 43:10
don't want to waste time anymore. You
- 43:11
know, at least I don't.
- 43:12
>> The way you speak about
- 43:15
the losses that you've had in your life
- 43:17
makes people feel very seen
- 43:18
>> and you're very generous about it. And
- 43:21
it in many ways reminds me of this idea
- 43:23
of like the witchiness that happens to
- 43:25
us when we get older
- 43:27
>> that we're coming in with some pain and
- 43:29
some hopefully some lessons or knowledge
- 43:32
from it or whatever.
- 43:34
And I really appreciate it as a person
- 43:38
listening to you share because
- 43:42
I don't know I can't explain it other
- 43:44
than I feel safe in the way that you
- 43:46
share
- 43:46
>> because I feel like you're taking care
- 43:48
of yourself which is a big relief for
- 43:50
me. Yes, that makes any sense.
- 43:52
>> It does. And I I want to take care of
- 43:55
you. I want to take care. You're making
- 43:57
me tearary guys. Stop. Um I really want
- 44:00
to take care of people's
- 44:04
souls like or whatever whoever their
- 44:06
person is. I never want to be known as
- 44:07
someone who violated someone's
- 44:09
confidence that someone
- 44:11
>> um
- 44:12
>> gave me a piece of themselves and I was
- 44:15
I was careless with it.
- 44:16
>> Yeah. Yeah.
- 44:16
>> And I think sure younger age I was a
- 44:18
dingbat, but because of the things that
- 44:21
I've been able to see and feel and
- 44:23
experience and get behind the curtain
- 44:25
on, um I feel like it's a secret that I
- 44:29
don't want to share from those who
- 44:32
deserve to
- 44:34
um benefit from my experience.
- 44:36
>> Well, you've spoken beautifully about
- 44:37
being a caretaker to Brian, and there's
- 44:39
a lot of caretakers listening.
- 44:40
>> The caretaker world is absolutely
- 44:43
underserved. I I'm been very private
- 44:46
since I was a little kid because my
- 44:47
mother always thought I was up to
- 44:48
something that I wasn't, you know. I
- 44:49
really am like, why am I getting blamed
- 44:51
for things I did do. I just I'm a guilty
- 44:53
I just look guilty, you know. But
- 44:56
[laughter] I don't want to ever ever
- 44:58
ever not be Oh god, how do I describe
- 45:00
this? I don't I did what I had to do in
- 45:03
the situation I was in. I didn't want to
- 45:06
say anything out of turn on what anyone
- 45:08
else experienced within that situation
- 45:10
because everyone is experiencing
- 45:12
something their own journey with that.
- 45:14
>> Um there's so much to the story
- 45:18
that would be of service,
- 45:20
but my story, my slice of pie and me and
- 45:24
the kids, you know, it that's all we can
- 45:27
speak about.
- 45:28
>> Yeah.
- 45:28
>> You know what I mean? I'd love to say
- 45:29
but you know it it serves no purpose
- 45:32
other than
- 45:34
>> I have the information. And I've met so
- 45:35
many people who whose family members
- 45:37
have been diagnosed with ALS or a
- 45:39
neurological disorder. I'm like,
- 45:41
>> this is what I know.
- 45:42
>> What did you learn about yourself when
- 45:44
you became a caretaker? What did you
- 45:46
What was a new thing that you learned?
- 45:48
>> I'm always a caretaker.
- 45:49
>> Yeah.
- 45:50
>> Always.
- 45:51
>> And I learned that I don't I didn't take
- 45:53
care of the person that was taking care
- 45:55
of everybody else. And that was a big
- 45:57
wakeup call for me.
- 45:58
>> Yeah.
- 45:58
>> Um and
- 46:02
I'm not good at asking for help. M
- 46:04
>> but I needed help and I needed to ask it
- 46:07
in a way that was safe.
- 46:09
>> Um thankfully I had a few angels that
- 46:12
stepped forward and was like this is
- 46:13
where the nurses are, this is where the
- 46:15
you know um what did I learn about
- 46:17
myself? um that I have an incredible
- 46:19
sister
- 46:20
>> and she
- 46:22
she in her worry for me
- 46:26
>> gave me like an alarm of going if you do
- 46:29
not start taking care of you
- 46:32
>> something's going to happen to you and
- 46:34
what's going to happen to Lou and lie
- 46:36
and I was like you know I and that to me
- 46:38
that's you know I learned about myself I
- 46:40
have an extraordinary sister you know
- 46:42
that that's the only thing that I know
- 46:43
I'm still developing I mean coming into
- 46:46
a press tour I was looking at um
- 46:48
[snorts] the photos of the the London
- 46:51
premiere and I'm like I'm not a red
- 46:52
carpet gal.
- 46:53
>> Are you out of your mind?
- 46:55
>> Okay, let me I'm just going to let me
- 46:56
just
- 46:57
>> Sorry. Can Okay, [laughter] I'm going to
- 46:59
let every
- 47:00
>> Absolutely not. It's our first fight.
- 47:01
You look better than ever.
- 47:04
>> Let me know when you're done.
- 47:05
>> Your red carpet is slaying.
- 47:08
>> Let me know when you're done.
- 47:09
>> Okay, I'm done.
- 47:11
>> I agree with you. The outfits slay. It's
- 47:14
not just the outfit. It was incredible
- 47:16
stylist that worked on this that made me
- 47:18
feel comfortable in my body from the
- 47:20
neck down. I was I was t so taken care
- 47:23
of.
- 47:24
>> The person on the inside like I said to
- 47:26
every I would start panicking as we
- 47:28
would get ready to leave and I said you
- 47:30
guys are working on the outside in. I'm
- 47:32
sitting in my body. I have no idea what
- 47:34
you guys are doing.
- 47:35
>> Yeah.
- 47:35
>> And I was just like and then I got on
- 47:38
the red carpet. I was like okay I've got
- 47:40
this. I'm going to pretend I which hand
- 47:41
should I put him here? [laughter] I'll
- 47:42
work it. Like I'm not someone who's
- 47:44
like, "What's up?"
- 47:45
>> Totally. I mean,
- 47:46
>> I'm not one of those. Like it's like
- 47:48
>> I just had the finger. I just had this
- 47:51
experience. I just did a photo shoot and
- 47:53
I was like, did you do this? I gave
- 47:54
myself a pep talk. I'm like, Amy, you
- 47:56
get in there and you be the person
- 47:59
finger. You don't say that.
- 48:02
>> I was like, just be into it.
- 48:04
>> I can't. It's so hard for me. I can't
- 48:08
I'm listening to you.
- 48:09
>> Be like, I'm very very sexy right now. I
- 48:12
>> [laughter]
- 48:12
>> And you just have to be a lot of like
- 48:14
who me?
- 48:15
>> What?
- 48:16
>> You'd be like, I'm just in the middle of
- 48:18
something.
- 48:19
>> There's two fingers. Like when someone
- 48:21
shoves two fingers in their mouth in a
- 48:22
photo shoot. Badass. I'm like, girl, I
- 48:25
wish I would have had the whole fist in
- 48:27
there if I could. [laughter]
- 48:30
>> Okay, I understand. I hear you mean the
- 48:32
out.
- 48:33
>> So Warner Brothers goes, "We need you to
- 48:34
like approve some of these shots so we
- 48:36
can get them on social." I'm like,
- 48:37
"Great." Because I by the end I was
- 48:38
like, "I did it. I did a really good
- 48:39
job. You know, I loved everything from
- 48:41
here. And then I went,
- 48:45
"What's your face doing? Is it
- 48:47
[laughter] Is it just your Are your eyes
- 48:49
just like I was like, "Why do I have
- 48:51
stink face?" [laughter] Cuz you were
- 48:53
like I'm LIKE, "NO, WORSE." I'M LIKE
- 48:55
THIS.
- 48:58
>> OH, you look a resting face. Is
- 49:01
that what you had?
- 49:01
>> Like I smelled something and like you
- 49:03
I'm like, "What happened? That's not
- 49:05
what I was feeling." [laughter]
- 49:07
>> Because here here.
- 49:09
>> You know why? Because you're funny.
- 49:11
>> Yeah. Yeah, but that's why you And then
- 49:12
when you're funny on a red carpet, you
- 49:14
get this
- 49:14
>> nightmare.
- 49:15
>> You get someone going, "Can you raise
- 49:16
the camera?" It's like
- 49:17
>> nightmare. It's a nightmare. We don't
- 49:19
belong on a red carpet.
- 49:20
>> No. I But you do.
- 49:23
>> There should be a NO, [laughter] THERE
- 49:24
SHOULD BE a comedy red carpet. We're not
- 49:26
the same.
- 49:26
>> I think we should advocate for a comedy
- 49:28
red carpet.
- 49:29
>> Unfortunately, that's every red carpet
- 49:31
I've ever done is a comedy red carpet
- 49:33
where the cameras help us out a little
- 49:35
bit.
- 49:35
>> I've said this before. I really I I'm
- 49:38
really relating cuz I feel like I I try
- 49:41
my best. I mean, I try so hard and I get
- 49:44
full hair and makeup for hours AND I
- 49:47
LOOK AT MYSELF IN THE MIRROR AND I'M
- 49:48
LIKE, "RIGHT, OKAY. All right." And I
- 49:50
get in the car and I get out there and
- 49:52
I'm and I feel like I'm posing like
- 49:54
this.
- 49:55
>> This is how I feel like I'm posing. And
- 49:56
I see the picture and it's like,
- 49:58
>> "Yeah, [laughter]
- 50:01
>> it is the way."
- 50:02
>> I so know what you're talking about.
- 50:03
>> It's like when did I do that?
- 50:04
>> Yeah. when when you were authentic.
- 50:07
>> But but you're not that's not the place
- 50:09
to be authentic.
- 50:09
>> No, exactly. [laughter]
- 50:11
>> You're right.
- 50:12
>> You you can't be authentic. And we have
- 50:14
to stop.
- 50:14
>> We have to just I agree. [laughter]
- 50:17
>> Stop doing what?
- 50:18
>> Talking moving.
- 50:19
>> I agree.
- 50:21
>> You know, there's there's there's sort
- 50:22
of those who
- 50:23
>> Nicole is incredible.
- 50:25
>> Well, Nicole is a goddess. [laughter]
- 50:28
>> Let's just Can we just remove her from
- 50:30
anything that we're in? So, like I'm
- 50:32
like, you do you. I would never want to
- 50:35
do the red carpet with Nicole. First of
- 50:37
all, I WOULD LOOK
- 50:37
>> DO YOU HAVE empathy for me now? I mean,
- 50:40
to do the red carpet 57, 5'8. Yes. 57.
- 50:43
Can you imagine? I mean, I'm So, can you
- 50:46
imagine me standing next to Nicole? I
- 50:47
would look I I I And honestly,
- 50:51
[laughter]
- 50:52
>> I would just be I would just be doing
- 50:54
some
- 50:55
>> Yeah.
- 50:56
>> some weird Yeah.
- 50:57
>> with your hands. [laughter]
- 51:00
>> So, you're gonna It's not even like
- 51:02
this. be falling out of my pocket and
- 51:04
I'd be talking to her like this.
- 51:06
>> Yes, we all do it. We all do it. And she
- 51:08
is she is a goddess.
- 51:10
>> She is a goddess. Okay. Um well, this
- 51:13
leads me to my
- 51:14
>> stink face leads me to
- 51:16
>> and I bet by by the way, we all have
- 51:19
body dysmorphia. So, I bet you look
- 51:20
incredible. We all do.
- 51:21
>> I bet you look incredible. And not bet.
- 51:23
I saw it. You did. Um Okay. We talk, we
- 51:28
always on this podcast talk to people
- 51:29
who know our guests and give us like we
- 51:32
talk well behind their back.
- 51:33
>> Um, [clears throat]
- 51:35
and um,
- 51:36
>> sweet Jesus.
- 51:38
>> We talked to Maisy Williams.
- 51:39
>> Wait, are we already done? Wait a
- 51:40
minute Maisy.
- 51:41
>> No, we're not done. No, we're we're we
- 51:43
have so I have so many more things on
- 51:45
the on the on the paper, but we usually
- 51:47
do like about an hour an hour 10. Okay.
- 51:49
>> Okay. And we're live. I'm just
- 51:51
[laughter] kidding. Um, we have been
- 51:53
live the whole time.
- 51:54
>> Great. Here. [laughter]
- 51:58
Hold on. These are all stuck. It's like
- 52:02
the is not working. [laughter]
- 52:06
>> Wait. Yeah. We just put a little You
- 52:08
know what I like to do in the red car?
- 52:10
We just put a little black and white
- 52:11
cookie right under my neck.
- 52:12
>> We just we just think about
- 52:15
>> and then it just sits right here.
- 52:16
>> Just work it
- 52:17
>> and it just looks gorgeous.
- 52:18
>> Would it be great if there's like a
- 52:19
really great collar that you sort of had
- 52:20
and it made your jaw snatched and then
- 52:22
you had this taken care of?
- 52:23
>> On the way out your publicist is like
- 52:25
Have your cookie. [laughter]
- 52:27
>> Don't forget your cookie.
- 52:29
>> Oh My cookie for my neck.
- 52:30
>> My cookie. Sorry.
- 52:32
>> Okay. Um, you look incredible. We all
- 52:33
look incredible. It's it um we women are
- 52:36
beautiful.
- 52:37
>> Every woman is beautiful. Okay.
- 52:38
>> Oh my god. I'm shitzy.
- 52:39
>> Oh my god. Me, too. But um Okay. Here is
- 52:42
We talked to Maisie and we talked to
- 52:44
Joey.
- 52:45
>> Oh, how extraordinary are those two?
- 52:48
>> They are the coolest.
- 52:49
>> They're so cool and talented.
- 52:51
>> They are. They are everything.
- 52:52
>> Tell me about working with them. What it
- 52:53
was. Um, you know, it's it's a
- 52:55
combination of awe and intimidation
- 52:57
because they are so free.
- 53:00
>> I'm glad I had to play someone that was
- 53:02
tightly wound and had to be very
- 53:04
maternal and dark and stiff, you know,
- 53:06
like because their freedom is
- 53:08
intimidating and educational.
- 53:10
>> Yeah.
- 53:10
>> Like we were having a um about just just
- 53:13
being a woman and flying the flag and
- 53:15
stuff like that. And I said something
- 53:16
about fear. I said, "Yeah, but you know,
- 53:18
you've got this isn't amazing." He goes,
- 53:19
"Oh, no." And then she went off. She
- 53:21
goes, "Being a woman." She went off on
- 53:22
always not liking the word witch. I said
- 53:24
I don't like the word witch because it
- 53:26
always came with negative connotation
- 53:28
and always
- 53:29
>> had full ownership of it. Yes. I mean
- 53:31
and she and it was like
- 53:33
>> yeah the divine feminine and it's real
- 53:35
power.
- 53:35
>> She they are both they both epitomize
- 53:37
that and it's
- 53:39
>> so peaceful to see because I'm like if
- 53:42
that's where that generation is. My
- 53:44
daughter's definitely in that
- 53:45
generation. Um
- 53:47
>> it's it makes you calm for the future.
- 53:49
like maybe our job was well done. You
- 53:52
know, Gloria Steinum.
- 53:54
>> Yeah. Rest in peace, Gloria.
- 53:55
>> I see how genuine Maisie and Joey are
- 53:58
about other women.
- 53:59
>> Mhm.
- 54:00
>> Their want for other women to succeed
- 54:03
fearlessly. They are in support of these
- 54:05
women. They don't feel like anything is
- 54:06
being taken from them in their support
- 54:08
of other women. And I'm like,
- 54:10
>> I I I I just find them
- 54:14
I I just I learned I learned a lot from
- 54:16
them.
- 54:16
>> They of course adore you. They loved
- 54:19
working with you and they their
- 54:20
questions were so tender. I loved their
- 54:22
questions. Um and and makes sense that
- 54:24
they're those kind of people. Um,
- 54:27
Maisy's was she was kind of talking
- 54:29
about your physicality and she also says
- 54:31
something I found really interesting and
- 54:33
you know not to make the comparison but
- 54:35
it was very is very Lucy it's very
- 54:36
Lucille Ball is that she talked about
- 54:38
the way you like to really rehearse your
- 54:40
physical stuff that rehearsing is the
- 54:43
way in which you kind of get into it and
- 54:44
>> the physical stuff for verbal comedic
- 54:47
stuff
- 54:47
>> right but that's what Lucy used to do
- 54:48
Lucy used to come in and walk through
- 54:50
her physical stuff which you imagine
- 54:52
like her physical stuff felt like it was
- 54:54
spontaneous not at at all.
- 54:57
>> And she got more and more comfortable
- 54:59
with the physical by doing it. I didn't
- 55:01
know that. Yeah, she was really into
- 55:02
rehearsing.
- 55:03
>> And anyway, she talked about how for her
- 55:06
that physical stuff is kind of like
- 55:08
Maisie can probably cry like the best of
- 55:10
them. I mean, Arya Stark, the most
- 55:12
incredible character, but she was like
- 55:14
the physicality and comedy in and and
- 55:17
those two things. And she was like, "How
- 55:18
does she like how do you not get
- 55:20
self-conscious when you're doing it?"
- 55:21
Which I thought was such a tender
- 55:23
question. And um I feel like we talked
- 55:26
about it a little bit, but but but I
- 55:29
guess how do you not
- 55:30
>> you do
- 55:31
>> then you use it.
- 55:32
>> Yeah.
- 55:33
>> To be uncomfortable is the greatest
- 55:35
feeling for me within doing the physical
- 55:38
things like that as uncomfortable as I
- 55:40
can get cuz then I can react off of it.
- 55:42
So I try to set things up to even bump
- 55:45
myself. I we had this great gentleman
- 55:48
who's Gary who did props. Gary love me
- 55:51
some like so he's my set boyfriend Gary
- 55:53
in the props because it became a game of
- 55:55
I would set things a certain way and he
- 55:59
figured out why I was setting them a
- 56:00
certain way so I could surprise myself
- 56:02
and then get caught on something and he
- 56:04
would slightly move it aside
- 56:06
>> and it would just give me something else
- 56:08
and like when it didn't move I was like
- 56:09
why did he move it? Why didn't he move
- 56:11
it for me? But it to be uncomfortable is
- 56:14
the best position to be in I feel for
- 56:18
the comedy that I like to do. I mean you
- 56:20
too right?
- 56:21
>> Absolutely. Like a little bit of
- 56:22
tension.
- 56:23
>> Yeah.
- 56:24
>> That and that feeling of like a little
- 56:26
bit of danger
- 56:28
>> and um you know a tiny bit of uh I don't
- 56:32
know. I guess it's what an athlete must
- 56:33
feel. It's the closest thing to feeling.
- 56:35
I'll never be an athlete. But the idea
- 56:37
that
- 56:38
>> there's something on the line. There's
- 56:40
something on the line.
- 56:41
>> Yeah.
- 56:41
>> That you can create that that's not
- 56:44
scary, but but a little bit of stress.
- 56:47
>> Yes. And that's that's what I do for my
- 56:50
lines. I learn them three quarters.
- 56:53
>> And I'll never drop a line for another
- 56:54
actor, but I want to always like be able
- 56:56
to pivot, drop it if I need to be in
- 56:59
danger, like let it surprise me as well,
- 57:02
>> cuz you can become very ro.
- 57:03
>> Yeah.
- 57:04
>> And that
- 57:04
>> Well, that's if you learn your lines,
- 57:05
which I choose not to do.
- 57:06
>> You don't? Okay. Wait.
- 57:08
>> I don't believe in it.
- 57:10
[laughter]
- 57:10
that line thing.
- 57:12
>> And then Joey had the sweetest question,
- 57:14
which is, when is the last time you
- 57:17
asked yourself, "Wow, does it get any
- 57:20
better than this?"
- 57:22
>> Oh my god, [laughter]
- 57:23
>> I know.
- 57:24
>> Um,
- 57:29
[laughter] what a nice what a crazy
- 57:32
question.
- 57:34
>> Isn't that so nice? Look at us crying.
- 57:37
WE'RE SO GOOD AT IT.
- 57:39
>> [laughter]
- 57:39
>> DO YOU SEE IT? GET A CLOSEUP.
- 57:41
>> WE'RE GOOD. We can do it.
- 57:42
>> But that's that's when I cry. I cry with
- 57:45
kindness. I in the big moments when you
- 57:47
expect everyone to cry, I have to hold
- 57:49
it together because I have to take care
- 57:50
of big things.
- 57:52
>> The feels hit me when there's kindness
- 57:55
that I didn't expect. And that question,
- 57:58
>> what a great question.
- 57:59
>> I I don't. And I think that's what she's
- 58:01
meaning. She knows I don't stop enough
- 58:03
and go I But it's not true. this whole
- 58:06
past year from from London when we
- 58:07
started filming, I I I see things
- 58:11
just like so differently.
- 58:13
>> Yeah.
- 58:14
>> I I really do. It's like I'm allowing
- 58:16
myself to be a kid in how I see things
- 58:18
again.
- 58:18
>> But that play is the is the um
- 58:22
indication that you're a little out of
- 58:24
crisis. It's really
- 58:25
>> out of crisis. Really,
- 58:26
>> it's hard to play when you're in crisis.
- 58:28
It's like what the reason why for a lot
- 58:30
of people it was hard to create during
- 58:31
COVID. It was hard to like organize
- 58:35
thing, you know, because when when
- 58:36
you're really feeling in crisis, play is
- 58:39
is the first to go.
- 58:40
>> Yeah.
- 58:41
>> When you feel that back again, that's
- 58:42
like some little bit ofense like feeling
- 58:45
that things are getting just a little
- 58:47
bit more safe or regulated like
- 58:50
>> um
- 58:50
>> Well, I mean for Joey then her for both
- 58:52
of them like just, you know, because
- 58:53
we're passing the torch or we're like,
- 58:55
as Gloria said, I light others torches.
- 58:58
this in lighting their torch.
- 59:00
>> It was a bonfire, you know, and to be
- 59:02
opposite them when there was like a lot
- 59:04
on the we have the nostalgia part and to
- 59:06
see them just bring it.
- 59:08
>> That's when it doesn't get any better.
- 59:10
>> Yeah.
- 59:10
>> When the choices we made to bring those
- 59:13
two very specific talents on
- 59:16
>> and watch them kill it.
- 59:17
>> You're such a good producer.
- 59:19
>> You know, it's like Can we just talk?
- 59:20
Take a minute.
- 59:21
>> I love it. Can we take you're just
- 59:23
you're just really really
- 59:26
>> deeply uh empathetic, compassionate, but
- 59:30
very successful and uh
- 59:35
you're just a baller of a producer,
- 59:37
>> you know, that's really nice of you to
- 59:38
say. I mean, I don't
- 59:40
>> you have produced what, like 15 films or
- 59:42
something and you produce a lot of stuff
- 59:44
and I think a lot of people can feel
- 59:46
your presence when you're working on
- 59:47
something because they know that you're
- 59:49
producing it. You do a lot of good
- 59:51
sucking up in your interviews.
- 59:53
>> You know what? Right back at you. You're
- 59:54
always trying to throw it back at me.
- 59:55
Okay. And Practical Magic, really good
- 59:57
music,
- 59:58
>> right? Right. I mean, did you have to
- 1:00:01
get was it? Did you have to write
- 1:00:03
personal letters to people to get their
- 1:00:04
music? But we did get some calling. We
- 1:00:05
did some reaching out.
- 1:00:06
>> Olivia Rodrigo and she doesn't license
- 1:00:09
to anyone.
- 1:00:10
>> No, I know. She's a fellow witchy poo.
- 1:00:12
>> She's she's a
- 1:00:15
>> talk about like the future. No, she's
- 1:00:18
kidding. She's She's
- 1:00:20
>> Olivia, please. Come on. We love you.
- 1:00:21
Okay. All right. Let's do a speed round.
- 1:00:24
A speed round. Speed. Hold on. Let me
- 1:00:25
get it. Let me whip my whistle.
- 1:00:27
>> You love real estate.
- 1:00:28
>> Do we want to do it like this?
- 1:00:29
>> Yeah, let's do it like this. Am
- 1:00:30
>> Well, then the perves will get into it.
- 1:00:32
>> Oh, don't you want perves or an
- 1:00:34
audience?
- 1:00:35
>> Well, you know, it's a great question. I
- 1:00:36
welcome perves.
- 1:00:37
>> You know what I love is [laughter] the
- 1:00:38
laughing that's coming. Are they sitting
- 1:00:40
in the bathroom? Because they're the
- 1:00:41
echo. Is there tile in that room? There
- 1:00:43
[laughter] is. Right. Speaking of real
- 1:00:45
estate, there's no better laugh than a
- 1:00:47
laugh from the toilet.
- 1:00:49
>> Oh my god, that's such a good call.
- 1:00:52
Tile. A tile of laugh. You're right. Cuz
- 1:00:55
it's like usually ladies in the
- 1:00:56
bathroom.
- 1:00:57
>> I also enjoy a laugh that comes from
- 1:00:59
like when you're a little kid and you're
- 1:01:00
sitting on the stairs and there's like a
- 1:01:02
party downstairs. I love the laugh that
- 1:01:04
travels up a stair.
- 1:01:05
>> Okay. [laughter]
- 1:01:07
>> But yes,
- 1:01:07
>> she said that is the way as though it's
- 1:01:09
happened recently. Like
- 1:01:12
>> um also sons are throwing down your
- 1:01:14
question. Perves are welcome, but creeps
- 1:01:16
are not.
- 1:01:17
>> Okay. Yeah. No, we big difference.
- 1:01:18
>> Got it. Yes.
- 1:01:19
>> We've talked about this on here with Ike
- 1:01:21
Baron Holtz.
- 1:01:22
>> There's a difference between a perv and
- 1:01:23
a creep.
- 1:01:24
>> You know who you are.
- 1:01:25
>> Yes. Yeah.
- 1:01:26
>> Okay. [laughter]
- 1:01:26
Um, but you love real estate and design.
- 1:01:29
>> I do. I do.
- 1:01:30
>> How would you describe your design sense
- 1:01:33
in a word or two?
- 1:01:35
>> Depends on the structure.
- 1:01:36
>> So, you go with the place like you're
- 1:01:38
listen.
- 1:01:38
>> I go with the I listen to the place. I
- 1:01:40
walk in and I go, "Who are the
- 1:01:41
craftsmen? Mhm.
- 1:01:42
>> What does this place want to be? Cuz I
- 1:01:44
love the restoration process.
- 1:01:46
>> So, I feel like that word would be like
- 1:01:48
organic history or something.
- 1:01:50
>> Wabishabi.
- 1:01:51
>> Wobi. Here we go. Okay. Sleep. What time
- 1:01:55
do you go to bed?
- 1:01:56
>> Love it. Um I'm a great sleeper.
- 1:01:58
>> Of course.
- 1:01:59
>> I'm a great sleeper.
- 1:02:00
>> I knew you would.
- 1:02:01
>> I mean, I try to stay awake until, you
- 1:02:03
know, Yla's in bed cuz she's a terrorist
- 1:02:05
at night. So, I just if she's out, then
- 1:02:06
I go to bed. But it's like 10 o'clock,
- 1:02:08
up at 5:30.
- 1:02:10
>> That's what a professional does. It is
- 1:02:12
>> pets.
- 1:02:14
>> How many do you have?
- 1:02:15
>> I have four right now. I have
- 1:02:17
>> What flavors?
- 1:02:18
>> I have flavors. I have vanilla,
- 1:02:20
>> peach, [laughter]
- 1:02:22
and two chocolate.
- 1:02:23
>> Do you have chickens?
- 1:02:24
>> I don't have all my chickens passed
- 1:02:25
away. I'm sorry.
- 1:02:26
>> I have I have a um a somewhat blind
- 1:02:30
>> poodle. I have a a little rescue poodle
- 1:02:33
who has a collapsed trachea cuz they
- 1:02:35
shoved spoons down her throat to quiet
- 1:02:37
her. She was part of an illegal puppy
- 1:02:39
mill.
- 1:02:39
>> Oh, bless her heart. But at least they
- 1:02:40
have legs. I we we had dogs without legs
- 1:02:43
and the kids were like enough. We have
- 1:02:45
mama who is a black feral somewhat feral
- 1:02:47
cat that was on my property who then
- 1:02:49
brought two baby like I'm highly
- 1:02:51
allergic to cats and I was like I am not
- 1:02:53
bringing a cat in this house.
- 1:02:55
>> The cats around the house like so
- 1:02:56
there's two there's mama and her baby
- 1:02:58
and yeah. So two gorgeous black cats. My
- 1:03:01
sister calls them the house panthers.
- 1:03:03
[laughter]
- 1:03:03
>> I go that's brilliant. So they're the
- 1:03:05
house panthers.
- 1:03:05
>> Um horses. Do you like them?
- 1:03:07
>> Love them but highly allergic. Well,
- 1:03:09
because I have a theory that the bet the
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thicker your hair, the more you like
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horses.
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>> Love them, but I'm highly allergic. My
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daughter is a great rider. She's she's
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she's knows how to
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>> tame the beast.
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>> Um, what's a musical artist that your
- 1:03:21
kids got you into?
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>> JCole.
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>> I mean,
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>> yeah,
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>> it's good.
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>> Protein. How do you take yours? How do
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you get it?
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>> THICK. [laughter]
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>> I mean, you set me up. You said protein.
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How do you take it? [laughter]
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>> I wasn't even thinking that. What a
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dirty
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>> I wasn't thinking that either.
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>> I was talking about chicken.
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>> I'm talking about yogurt.
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>> Beefy yogurt.
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>> Greek yogurt. Thick Greek.
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>> Sandy bullet.
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>> 0% Greek yogurt.
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>> Very
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like a good pulled chicken salad and
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then you know the little peptide
- 1:04:00
proteins in the coffee in the morning.
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>> Always trying to figure out how to get
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>> and it's like but are we going to find
- 1:04:04
out like 10 years from now that we've
- 1:04:05
overdone it? We've grown some like
- 1:04:07
internal [laughter] like eye some like
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>> and also I always appreciate when it's
- 1:04:10
like what's another thing I'm supposed
- 1:04:12
to get right like what is another thing
- 1:04:14
I have to do good lord um okay and then
- 1:04:18
um wait is this all of our speed round
- 1:04:19
questions so fun yeah we're almost done
- 1:04:22
here we go we got to wrap this up
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>> I'm not rushing you know
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>> um we have places to be and you have
- 1:04:26
talked so much [laughter]
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>> um
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way I apologize I mean when this
- 1:04:32
semester is over I'm going away for
- 1:04:34
another four years I'm gone I PROMISE.
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>> NO, PLEASE. OH, we love hearing
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>> unless I come here. Unless I come I'll
- 1:04:40
just stop here once a year.
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>> I got something going on or not. I just
- 1:04:43
stop.
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>> That came out the wrong way. I mean that
- 1:04:45
you've had to talk so much. Not that
- 1:04:48
you've talked so much here. I love you
- 1:04:51
talking here and have loved it. And so
- 1:04:53
my last question for you that I ask
- 1:04:55
everybody is um what's making you laugh?
- 1:04:59
Like what? [laughter]
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But I mean when you're like at home, you
- 1:05:03
know, what's the thing that you are, you
- 1:05:06
know, it it like where do you go when
- 1:05:09
you need to change the chemistry?
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>> My [laughter]
- 1:05:14
own head. That makes sense cuz you're so
- 1:05:16
funny.
- 1:05:17
>> It's like it's like nothing makes me
- 1:05:18
laugh harder than
- 1:05:20
>> Louis my son man a few words like like
- 1:05:23
it's like I don't know. I don't know.
- 1:05:26
And he's like, "Well, yeah." He mumbles
- 1:05:28
everything and I can't I can't
- 1:05:30
understand a word. I'm like, "English."
- 1:05:32
He's 16 and a half. I'm like, "English."
- 1:05:34
And then when he's standing there and
- 1:05:36
he's, you know, no, no smile. And he's
- 1:05:38
like, you know, "Can can I can I have a
- 1:05:39
milkshake?" And I was like, "Yeah,
- 1:05:40
sure." And then I get up there and I go,
- 1:05:42
"My milkshake brings, you know," and
- 1:05:43
I'll just start twerking [laughter] and
- 1:05:45
he's just watching it. And then if he
- 1:05:47
smiles, I'm laughing so hard whether he
- 1:05:50
smiles or not. But like humiliation,
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>> yes.
- 1:05:53
>> Makes me laugh.
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>> Me too. If I can humiliate my children
- 1:05:57
>> in the privacy of our home, not in
- 1:05:59
public, but in the privacy of our own
- 1:06:00
home
- 1:06:01
>> with a little rump shaking, I I it's the
- 1:06:04
greatest joy.
- 1:06:05
>> But that's play. Like you're just play.
- 1:06:07
Yeah.
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>> And also it is I mean I can say this but
- 1:06:11
you can't. But like he like it's so
- 1:06:13
funny to know that the entire world
- 1:06:16
loves you Sandy. They feel so connected
- 1:06:18
to you. They've grown up with you. You
- 1:06:20
are their favorite. And yet you cannot
- 1:06:24
get your child to laugh.
- 1:06:25
>> I cannot I cannot.
- 1:06:26
>> It's so funny and also a great healthy
- 1:06:29
relationship.
- 1:06:29
>> Yes. It's very
- 1:06:30
>> It's very healthy.
- 1:06:31
>> Yes. That's how you want it to be.
- 1:06:33
>> I am just annoying right now to both
- 1:06:35
children. I'm just annoying.
- 1:06:37
>> That's That's perfect. That's the
- 1:06:39
perfect way you should be for any teen.
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>> Exactly.
- 1:06:41
>> But um I I I just love talking to you. I
- 1:06:45
knew I would I didn't want to put too
- 1:06:46
much expectation on us being friends,
- 1:06:48
but I do feel like we've
- 1:06:49
>> But you know how nice this is. feel like
- 1:06:51
we're best friends.
- 1:06:52
>> No, I mean, but I think us not really I
- 1:06:55
mean, little ships passing in the night,
- 1:06:56
little, you know, but
- 1:06:58
>> having the opportunity to meet you now
- 1:07:00
at this stage of our life Yeah.
- 1:07:01
>> is pretty amazing because everything is
- 1:07:05
all over the place and we're all
- 1:07:06
striving for different things and
- 1:07:08
relationships with kids and dreams and
- 1:07:09
things like that. But to be able to sit
- 1:07:12
here and and
- 1:07:14
acknowledge like where we are and where
- 1:07:17
we've been and that where I'm I'm
- 1:07:18
looking at you just going I'm so glad
- 1:07:21
you are
- 1:07:23
that you just are and I'm so glad that
- 1:07:26
you have this this world that you've
- 1:07:30
created. So we get to come in and
- 1:07:32
experience you in a way that we wouldn't
- 1:07:35
be able to. And you're like you are you
- 1:07:38
are one of those that those of us who
- 1:07:39
love comedy do the like the bend but you
- 1:07:43
you have to know that to a lot of people
- 1:07:45
to a great many of us.
- 1:07:47
>> Thank you very much because it is it is
- 1:07:50
>> it is it's unmatched.
- 1:07:52
>> The feeling is mutual.
- 1:07:54
>> But just shut up and take the compliment
- 1:07:55
for a second. So for you allowing
- 1:07:57
>> I'm hitting it right back to you babe.
- 1:07:59
>> Shut your face. So, [laughter] just just
- 1:08:00
you and
- 1:08:01
>> one of us is giving the present and one
- 1:08:02
of us is receiving and I'm giving and
- 1:08:04
you're receiving and you are not giving
- 1:08:05
me a present in this conversation.
- 1:08:07
[laughter]
- 1:08:09
>> Thank you so much for saying that. It
- 1:08:10
means a lot to me and I feel really
- 1:08:12
grateful and this is I was very I was a
- 1:08:14
little nervous and I was a little bit
- 1:08:16
I'm sorry to hear that cuz in a in
- 1:08:18
a good way because I was so looking
- 1:08:21
forward to it.
- 1:08:22
>> Same. I I wanted to kind of temper my
- 1:08:24
expectation because I was like don't
- 1:08:25
come on too strong. It's okay if she
- 1:08:27
doesn't become your friend. She doesn't
- 1:08:29
like you.
- 1:08:30
>> It's okay if she doesn't like you. Most
- 1:08:31
people don't. Just relax.
- 1:08:32
>> I mean, just walking in and seeing you,
- 1:08:35
you know, was like I was like, did I
- 1:08:36
just cross a boundary by like throwing
- 1:08:38
my arms around her face, you know, but I
- 1:08:40
I I felt very safe here and you make
- 1:08:43
people feel very very to me that is
- 1:08:45
everything.
- 1:08:46
>> Sandy, thank you. Really, thank you so
- 1:08:48
much for doing it and um I adore you.
- 1:08:50
So, thanks so much.
- 1:08:51
>> I I now adore you.
- 1:08:52
>> Y WE DID IT. OH MY GOD, IT WAS SO GOOD.
- 1:08:56
[screaming]
- 1:08:59
OH, SANDY BULOCK, you are just the best.
- 1:09:02
Thank you so much for coming on. That
- 1:09:04
was such a delight to talk to you. And
- 1:09:06
like everything you do, it was moving
- 1:09:08
and deep and funny and real and
- 1:09:11
authentic. Um, I just love talking to
- 1:09:13
you. And for this polar plunge, I think
- 1:09:16
you know, uh, Sandy talked a lot about
- 1:09:20
the, um, the care that she took of her
- 1:09:24
partner, Brian Randall, who died of ALS.
- 1:09:27
And I think we spoke a little bit about
- 1:09:29
caretaking in general. And I guess I
- 1:09:31
just wanted to take the second to reach
- 1:09:33
out to anybody who is listening today
- 1:09:35
who are in the thick of it, who are
- 1:09:38
caretaking currently as we speak, or
- 1:09:40
know someone who is stretched thin.
- 1:09:42
We're just sending our love to you. I
- 1:09:44
know Sandy would feel the same. And she
- 1:09:47
said some really amazing things here
- 1:09:48
about making sure to take care of
- 1:09:50
yourself along the way. So, reminding
- 1:09:52
you of that message and uh saying thanks
- 1:09:55
if no one said thanks to you today.
- 1:09:57
Thank you. Um thank you for listening,
- 1:09:59
Sandy. Thank you for all that you've
- 1:10:01
done and the joy you've given us and
- 1:10:03
continue to give us. And thanks for
- 1:10:05
listening to Good Hang. Bye.
- 1:10:09
You've been listening to Good Hang. The
- 1:10:11
executive producers for this show are
- 1:10:12
Bill Simmons, Jenna [music] Weiss
- 1:10:14
Berman, and me, Amy Polar. The show is
- 1:10:16
produced by The Ringer and Paperkite.
- 1:10:18
For The Ringer, production by Jack
- 1:10:19
[music] Wilson, Cat Spalain, Kaia
- 1:10:21
McMullen, Aia Xanerys, Bridget
- 1:10:23
Gearlings, Paige Garberini, Bell Roman,
- 1:10:26
and Drew Vanstein Bergen. For Paperkite,
- 1:10:29
production by Sam Green, Joel Levelvel,
- 1:10:31
and Jenna Weiss Berman. Original music
- 1:10:33
by Amy [music] Miles.
- 1:10:36
was a really good