Transcript: Rachel Sennott on Good Hang with Amy Poehler

Hello everyone. Welcome to another

episode of Good Hang. Very excited about

our guest today. It is the great Rachel

Senate, a super interesting, funny

charismatic actress, producer, writer.

You know her from the film Shiva Baby

from Bodies, Bodies Bodies, from

Bottoms. She has a new show that's out

right now on HBO called I Love LA. We're

going to talk about that. We're going to

talk about so many things. Uh open mic

nights. But we're going to talk about

Tik Tok and how to use it and work it

and what we love about it. She's going

to give me fashion advice and she's

going to give me reasons to love LA

which is what her show is all about. So

very great conversation. But before we

get started, we always talk to someone

who knows our guest, who can tell me

something about our guest and give me a

question to ask our guest. And we have

another supremely talented, delightful

young woman joining us today, Molly

Gordon. Molly Gordon is an actor. You

may know her from the hit show The Bear

where she plays Claire. She is Claire on

the Bear. Um, and she's in films such as

Theater Camp and Oh High. She's super

talented. And Molly uh is going to join

us and give us some info about her buddy

Rachel. Hi Molly, can you hear me?

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>> Hi,, it's, nice, to, meet, you., Yeah,, I've

always seen you from afar and like I'm

trying to send you very intense love and

I don't know if I've fully found my way

over but um but yeah, but honestly I've

been listening to your podcast before I

go to sleep. So you've been spending a

lot of intimate time with me.

>> Oh,, yay., That, makes, me, feel, happy., It's

I'm was thrilled you wanted to talk

today.

>> I'm, so, excited, to, talk, about, my, my, wife.

So

>> she, really, is, your, wife., Look,, I, uh, I

was looking at the stuff that you and

Rachel have done together and how long

you've known each other and you really

are are married. Legally married.

>> We're, legally, married., Um, she

>> Yeah,, it's, she's, my, wife., We, talk, every

single day. Um

>> Wow.

>> We, if, one, of, us, doesn't, respond,, we'll

just keep calling and it's hard to know

when it's like an emergency or not, I

would say, with with her. Um, but yeah

she's an incredible human being and like

I you guys together is going to be

magic.

>> Well,, I'm, thrilled, to, talk, about, her

today with you. But before I do, let's

not forget about Molly.

>> Okay.

>> What's, Molly, up, to, today?

>> I'm, prepping, um, a, movie, that, I'm, going

to direct.

>> Fantastic.

>> That, I'm, that, I'm, actually, gonna, send

you Amy at some point so we can Yeah.

>> And, you, have, to, tell, me, live, on, the

podcast if you want to be a part of it

or not. Um, but uh but I'm good. I just

I made hot tea and then I burned I like

burned my whole mouth and then spit it

out all over the computer and that's

kind of where I'm at right now.

>> Let's, talk, about, tea, for, a, second, cuz

I'm a tea girl more than a coffee girl.

Are you too?

>> I, like, tea., I, I, violently, wake, up, and, I

want like seven coffees, a matcha, then

I have a tea around 3.

>> Okay., And, what, kind, of, tea, do, you, like

to drink? So, I love this hot cinnamon

spice

>> Harley, and, Sun's, tea,, but, usually

English breakfast or peppermint. You

>> thanks, for, asking., I, enjoy, my, favorite

tea is a an Irish tea called Berries tea

which I highly recommend

>> and, it's, a, black, tea, and, I, don't, like

any other I mean maybe occasionally I'll

do a peppermint like if I've had a like

a big meal

>> just, want, to, chill, out

>> we, needed, to, move, through, you, in, a, way

got it

>> yeah, totally, but, I've, switched, entirely

from co I used to be kind of a coffee

person now I'm totally tea and It's made

a diff.

>> And, do, you, feel, like, that's, changed, your

whole personality?

>> It, definitely, has, changed, my, stomach's

personality cuz I used to have to drink

coffee like it was melted ice cream

like tons of cream and sugar.

>> Yes.

>> Um, and, now, it's, helped, a, lot, to, not, have

to get into that like just to have that

much [ __ ] in my stomach. Not have to go

to the bathroom every morning. Totally.

I I uh yeah, I moved back to New York

and I was like, "Oh, it's it's really

fun to like drink so much coffee and

then like be trying to make it home to

your house." Like I was nostalgic living

in LA for that like am I going to make

it home?

>> Yes., I, mean, there, for, people, who, you

know and this happen this happens in a

lot of cities but like you get to know

where you have to quickly go to the

bathroom. You have to learn and in Los

Angeles you're kind of in trouble. You

spend a lot of time in your car.

>> It's, tough., A, sweet, green., They're

pretty kind at a sweet green. I I do

have to say

>> they're, sweet.

>> Yeah,, they're, sweet.

>> So,, when, when, was, the, first, time, you

met? Tell us about your meat cute of

when you met your wife. So, I met my

wife um MX Eleman, the director of Shiva

Baby, had a set of breakfast for me and

Rachel

and we all ate and Rachel thought I was

like a real actress cuz Rachel had just

like been a standup and and she she was

asking me a lot like what it's like to

be a real actress and and lots of

questions and um and I was kind of like

I'm the normal I'm just I don't really

get work and like we're because I'd been

in like one movie Um, but she Yeah. And

then we like we read the script together

and she was so funny. And I had just

never met like women my age that were

that

um unapolog unapologetically ambitious.

>> Like

>> she, is, so, honest, about, what, she, wants, in

her life and like what she does, what

she's trying to achieve, like her what

she does every day. And I would always

hide that I wanted those things. And I

feel like

It was just so inspiring. But yeah, I

agree. Like I think she kind of showed

me with like with that film she was

trying out so many different things and

you know it's that movie is a lot about

sexuality and all these things but she

just showed me you don't have to fit in

like some box. She was like sometimes I

want to do this, sometimes I want to do

this and like I don't know I I when I

was thinking about what I wanted to ask

her, I was like how did you have that

confidence?

That's exactly what I wanted to start

with because but it's a funny question

right? I've been doing this podcast for

a while and there's people that come in

and I want to say how did you know what

you knew? Like like how how did how did

you get this sense of yourself? And it's

a hard one to answer because it's

sometimes it's just kind of the way that

they came out into the world. Totally.

And she's still speaking of what we're

saying about containing multitudes, like

she's still really vulnerable, but she's

just But I don't The first time I met

her, Amy, she was like, "I wrote four

scripts. I'm doing this. I want to do

this." And like I had just never seen

anyone act that way because you think

"Oh, that's like gonna show that you

have a big head or something." But it's

like, no, she wants to create things.

>> Yeah.

>> Um,

>> but, I, don't, know., It's, it's, you, can, get

into it with her, but it's like, yeah

she wants to create things and she wants

to have great sex and she wants to have

a great meal and she wants to cuddle

with her friends. Like, she wants all of

those things and there's nothing wrong

with that. And you don't need to choose

one lane to be in or something.

>> Shiva, Baby, was, made, for, $200,000.

>> Yeah.

>> Wow.

>> Yeah., It's, crazy.

>> And, and, how, much, did, it, end, up, making?

>> And, that, all, went, to, me.

>> Yeah., You, have, a, your, quote, was

$199,000.

>> Yeah,, I, I, had, only, worked, a, little, bit,

but my quote was um I don't know how

much it made, but it uh definitely not

that much because it came out in co. We

do have to say Emma and I and Rachel

always laugh that the movie is huge in

London.

>> We, don't, think, a, lot, of, people, don't

know it in the States, but in London

we're huge.

>> You, walk, around, and, it's, it's, like, the

Beatles

>> in, London., I'm, like, having, to, go, like

this. But everywhere else it's

completely [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah.

>> There, must, be, a, lot, of, like, Jewish, women

who have sex at Chivas. I don't know.

Good for them.

>> And, they, all, live, in, London.

>> Yeah.

>> Um, Okay., So,, just, to, be, clear,

uh your question for Rachel is what?

>> My, question, for, Rachel, is, people, have

said that you from a young age were very

unapologetically ambitious. Where did

that come from or how did you learn to

be that way? Where did that instinct

where was the through line?

>> Great, question., Okay., And, then, the, last

thing I'll say is there anything you

want me to any story you want me to

prompt Rachel to tell because she's a

very good storyteller I've noticed on

these kind of things. I'd love for you

to ask her about the the first time that

she was fingered.

>> Fantastic.

>> I'm, sorry., I, just, It's, an, incredible

story and she used to do it in Oh, and

I'd also love you to ask her if she'll

come back to standup.

>> Great., So,, did, she, tell, her, fingering

story on stage? Okay, great.

>> It's, not, like, a, violation., Yeah., Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. You can say the Molly or

like someone was bringing up, you know

some of your first pleasuring experience

or whatever, but um but I think her and

I need to get back to standup. I know

they're famous actors now, but it's like

come on, we got to see you on stage. I

know. They're so funny. And it standup

is so it is like I want to talk to her

about it because as you know like and

you know from being on stage like if you

can be on stage and hang in there you

build a muscle where you can kind of

almost you can handle almost anything

almost anything.

>> Yeah.

>> It's, so, good, talking, to, you., You've, in

in the course of us talking you have

your hair has looked incredible down and

also looks incredible up.

>> I, have, to, be, honest, it's, a, gorgeous

updo. It's so dirty, but it's really

>> stunning.

>> It, is, stunning.

>> Oh,, and, like, and, then, you, got, like

perfect.

>> It, looks, like, you're, just, ready, to, walk

out into the streets of London and just

be mobbed.

>> I, got, to, be, I, got, to, get, to, London., I

just got to get to London.

>> All right., Have, a, blast.

>> Okay., Thank, you, so, much., It, was, so, fun

talking to you.

>> Bye

>> bye.

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>> How, do, you, like, the, the, height, of, this

chair as a fellow shorty?

>> I, love, it., I, love, it., And, I, love, I, love

that we're both short. I I always talk

about like is it a short set or a tall

set.

>> It's, very, true, because, we, can't, reach

things. Things are too high for us. And

also I like I don't like feeling I don't

like feeling short if that makes sense.

>> Right, now, I'm, feeling, very, tall., Good.

>> I'm, feeling, 5'6.

>> We're, both, We're, both, giving, 5'6, right

now.

>> We, are.

>> That's, my, dream., 56, is, my, dream

actually.

>> Me, too.

>> I'm, with, Rachel, Senate., She, is, here.

>> Rachel,, I'm, so, happy, that, you're, here., I

am so happy that you're here and so is

my entire family. My dad was freaking

out. And he was like

>> "Tell, me, about, your, dad."

>> He, I'm, addicted, to, him., I, My, love, is, my

dad.

>> Okay,, this, is, what, is, so, incredible

about people in their 30s. They love

their parents. We

>> you, take, you, take, a, journey

>> and, I, literally, just, turned, 30, like, a

couple weeks ago and I looked it's

almost like you have to like go away and

be like I'm my own I'm an adult like you

don't even [ __ ] know me like and then

I like something shifted and you're like

>> you're, my, friends.

>> You, know, what, it's, actually, I, do, want, to

talk about that. That's actually really

deep. It does happen in your 20s. You

have to kind of separate.

>> Yes.

>> And, it's, painful., It's, painful.

>> Was, it, painful, for, you?

>> Yes., And, I'm, like, scared, because, I, know

of everything I've done. I'm like both

of my parents are absolutely listening

to every second of this. Okay.

>> Other, things, they're, like, we'll, skip

that one. So I'm like let me try to let

me try to

>> tell, me, about, your, parents., They, are

what do they what what were they what

what are they like? What did they do?

What was their job? Because here's one

of my highest compliments.

>> Yes.

>> You, seem, like, a, Manhattan, Nepo, baby., And

you're not girl. Don't fur with me.

Thank you. Thank you.

>> Congrats., Thank, you., I, am, maybe, an

insurance nepo baby basically in that my

dad works in insurance and he did hook

me up with car insurance multiple times

cuz I was driving around with a car with

no insurance getting in car accidents

and he was like, "Let me help you."

>> He, was, like, "This, is, what, I, do.

>> This, is, what, I, do.", So,, my, parents, both

were accountants and they met when they

were both accountants at the same firm

and then um fell in love, dated secretly

>> because, they, were, sort, of, like, we, got, to

keep it lowkey, which like you

>> they're, like,, "We, don't, want, it, to, mess

with the numbers. We don't want our

romance to get like to screw up the

numbers."

>> Literally,, by, the, way,, they, when, they

got married, they got a mug that said

which doesn't make sense, a mug that

said, "Beware of accountants." they

multiply.

>> Which, I'm, like,, they, don't., You, two, were

already accountants and then you got

together and none of your five children

are accountants.

>> Well,, excuse, me., Five, children., That's, a

lot of children. Where are you in the

birth order of that?

>> I'm, second, oldest.

>> Ah,, okay.

>> So,, so, they, fell, in, love, and, they, just

started

>> they, multiplied.

>> They, and, they, multiplied., They, started

popping them out. And I will say I feel

like they they

having five or four siblings, but being

in a big family is a huge part of who I

am because I think it's like

>> automatically, you, have, so, many, different

personalities. It's like if you put us

all together, there's like you could

kind of make connections between like

pairs, but some of it is really random

like where you're like all of you guys.

And I think like my parents did a really

good job raising us and and sort of like

taking everyone basically like not

putting anyone's needs above another.

like everyone's career and what everyone

does is equally important and like you

sort of had to like you know shout at

the dinner table to be heard and like

you you automatically have to compromise

because it's like there there's no way

everyone's going to be happy all the

time. There's

>> people, you, have, two, very, rightrain

parents it sounds like too like so are

you like an like and you have pursued a

very artistic path in your family with

the siblings. Does it go either way?

There's some people that are like strong

in STEM and numbers people and other

people that are artists.

>> We, I, would, say, we've, got, I'm, gonna, say

three artists

>> but, but, because, I'm, going, to, say, my, mom

>> secret, artist,

>> secret, artist, like, she, she, did, like, my

first play ever with me. I was like, I

really want to audition for a play and

she was like, I'll audition with you.

>> This, is, so, different.

>> So, different., and, she, and, she, like, sings

and like plays piano. So it's like I

feel like

>> the, art, was, there.

>> My, dad, not, an, artist, but, like, trying, to

make everyone else do art. So he like

forced me and my siblings to like play

in a quartet for our family.

>> That's, very, mathy., That's, very, numbery.

>> Yes., Like, you, will, play, like, m, music, and

instruments is still like

>> still, kind, of, mathy

>> an, accountant, stream.

>> That's, totally, totally

>> versus, whatever, the, hell, I'm, doing., It's

a little It's a little more lefty

loosey.

>> Well,, what, I, love, about, what, you, just

said, because it does feel like you're

in a you grew up in a family where you

had to kind of

>> you, know,, you, just, have, to, make, space

for yourself. Yeah.

>> You, have, to, figure, it, out., Like, you

said, you have to kind of compete in a

healthy way.

>> Yes.

>> One, of, the, or, not, or, not, healthy., One, of

the things that I love about you, not

knowing you, we're meeting for the first

time, is that there's something about

the way that you are in your own

experience, like your own body that's

very grounded and very um self- assured.

And it's kind of like you have it or you

don't. It's like this ine ineffable

thing where you just you you make us

lean into you, Rachel. like you you're

kind of yourself in real time and we're

and we all become very interested and

curious about it. Like there's not a

grasping energy from you. you're kind of

doing your thing and people are like

invited to come along and that's really

nice of you to say and that means a lot

coming from you cuz you have I feel like

it's like in comedy and like I I read

your book I read Tina's book when I was

like in college and starting standup and

like I feel like especially when I think

to like the beginning when when you're

like the first not the first women in

comedy but like you're forming a group.

Like I feel like my friend group took so

much inspiration from you guys of being

like, I've, got, my, girls,, you, know what, I

mean? And being like

>> I'll, go, to, the, weird, open, mic, with, you

and the whatever, but like carving out

that space for yourself and being like

you come to us as opposed to like trying

to be a part of the other thing that

you're like not necessarily invited to.

>> So,, let's, get, into, Okay,, we, we, talked

about your parents. You're in

Connecticut. You grow up in Connecticut.

And again, you seem like a Manhattan

kid. Congrats.

>> Thank, you.

>> Um,, Connecticut, is, a, strange, state, cuz

it's like, where is it?

>> Who, is, it, happening,

>> right?, Like, Red, Sox,, Yankees,, like, what

do you want?

>> Okay., And, thank, you, for, asking, that., Red

Sox.

>> Red, Sox., I, got, actually, like, absolutely

my dad reamed my ass because I put on my

boyfriend's Yankees cap. I just thought

it would be a little flirty. And I fa

picked up a FaceTime for my dad and he

was like, "Take that off right now.

>> Take, that, off, right, now., That's, not

okay. You can't do it.

>> No,, that's, not, okay.

>> So,, you're, more, on, the, Boston, side,, but

you grow up there and you get to NYU.

>> Yes.

>> Where, is, that, jump, from, you, like, at, the

dinner table being funny with your

family and deciding I want to get to NYU

and like be a performer? How does that

happen?

>> It, So,, I, always, wanted, to, like, perform.

I feel like I did the classic thing.

>> Well,, you, were, in, plays.

>> I, was, forcing, I, was, doing, plays.

>> You, were, in, lay, miz.

>> I, was, in, lay, miz., Wow., Yes.

>> What, part?, I, was, Madame, Tinardier., Of

course. Wait, who?

>> She, You, just, said, it, in, a, French, way.

>> Madame, Tinardier., I, was, I, was, She, was

sort of Do you know the master of the

house? The his wife.

>> Oh,, the, master, of, the, house, lady., Yes.

>> Okay., Sorry,, I, should, know, her, name.

>> No,, she, is, the, master, of, the, house, lady.

>> You, had, the, comedic, part.

>> Yes,, I, had, the, comedic, part., And, you

know, anytime I was in a play in high

school, they were like, "That's a witch

or the head of the like the prostitute

house." Like it was really it was like

that was the only parts I was getting

cast in. Why do you think that was? Why

as a little kid do they cuz I know

>> I, know

>> but, I, but, I, kind, of, know, what, you, mean

cuz it's usually the comedic part.

>> Yes., Yes.

>> Why, were, they, like, seeing, some, like, were

you did you have like a maturity in that

age? Were you just like self- assured on

stage?, Do you, know what, I, mean?, Like, not

nervous?

>> I, think, it, was, like, I, was, not, vocally

talented

and loud and I think loud and I think

like

>> I, don't, know., I, I, look, I'm, like, it, was

always like and you're the little the

ratty little whatever. And I'm like okay

I really I it cuz at that time I want I

was like obviously I want to be

Cassette. I want to be Ethan. I want to

be like singing the Pretty Little Voice.

>> They, heard, me, sing, three, bars., They

said,

>> "But, you're

>> you're, going, to, speak, the, whole, song."

>> And, they're, they're, usually, the, most

boring of the songs. They are. I mean

even though Epanine has some great has

some great songs. Lame is incredible.

Yeah,

>> they're, bangers., And, And, by, the, way,, the

girl who played Epanine in my high

school like went on to play Epanine on

Broadway. And I was like

>> "Wow,

>> you, know,, Emily, Bautista,, I, got, to, hand

it to you. You were meant for the part.

Voice. Voice of an angel.

>> Incredible.

>> Incredible., So,, I, was, like,, I'm, not

taking it personally.

>> Can, we, talk, for, a, second, about, loud?

>> Loud.

>> Cuz, I'm, I'm, relating., Like,, I, was, a, loud

kid.

>> Yeah.

>> And, there's, something, like, underneath

being like a loud young kid. That's kind

of can be very exciting, especially if

you're like a young woman. Not always.

Sometimes people don't like it. They

make you feel bad about it. Yeah

>> but, it, is, like, it's, like, carving, out

space, like taking up space somehow. And

people saw that in you.

>> Yeah., And, they, were, like,, she's, not

afraid to I guess that or they were just

literally like we can't get her to shut

up. Like just give her this part and

maybe she'll lose her voice yelling on

stage and then she won't be like

annoying at home. But I do think you're

right. It's like you have to sort of

like be loud first and then figure out

how to make it like entertaining as you

go. But I think once you like break that

I also like

>> I, feel, like, I've, always, had, like, a, loud

laugh which like I've read about like

laugh at the table reads at SNL and

whatever and it's like

>> I, think, like, not, being, afraid, to, like

bring joy into the space or be like

>> I, don't, know, once, once, you, start

shouting you're like I'm not going to

talk quiet like it's just you break into

that space and then you can

>> refine, what, what, you're, saying, or, how

funny it is or whatever. But I think

like that instinct was always there.

>> Yeah., And, and, that, brings, you, to, NYU

where you kind of join this class of

people who are now your friends and

successful actors and actresses in their

own right who you meet like tell us

about coming to NYU like those early

days there. I so I think I at first felt

like I didn't fit in at all and I had

like a really hard time because the

acting program was very like serious and

it was very like

>> Shakespeare, and, like, we're, doing, we're

like walking around the room and you're

a cat and then you're like a chicken and

I was like but everyone's like crying

while they do it and I'm like what what

am I missing?

>> What, am, I, missing?, The, the, money, is

gone. we've paid so I got to do

something with this but wow this is

crazy like it was that I was scared and

I just felt and

>> do, you, know, what, I, mean, like, it's, like

and and you're looking around and

everyone's like so locked into it so

you're like there's something wrong with

me

>> do, you, think, they, were, locked, into, it, or

was it like pure pressure to feel locked

into it cuz

>> now, it, feels, like, a, cult, a, little, where

everyone was like I'm crying as the

chicken

>> I'm, feeling, thing, like, you, know, But, I, I

felt like, oh, there were a lot of

opportunities that the school had, which

was like the plays, the the the school

did shows that you could audition for. I

didn't get into any of those. The school

had like uh improv and sketch groups. I

didn't get into any of those.

>> Oh,, really?

>> Really?

>> Dang., I, bet, they're, regretting, that.

>> Probably, not., They're, pro, They're

probably like, "Well, another year of

doing our sketches. I'm really surprised

>> I, didn't, and, I, debris, who, I, met, didn't

either and that's when we first met was

like at the auditions for those groups

>> sometimes, that's, just, the, best, motivator

>> literally, I, by, the, way, I'm, like, I, always

need whenever like something doesn't

work out for me I'm like thank God

whenever I'm like

>> projection, is, God's, protection

>> period, and, also, it's, like, whenever, I'm

flopping I'm not scared it's when I'm

doing well or that I'm puppy when I'm

terrified.

>> Okay,, that, is, the, best, way, to, say, it,

Rachel, is that

>> to, flop, and, not, be, scared.

>> To, flop, and, not, be, scared.

>> That's, a, very, powerful, thing., It's, It's

a super It's a superpower if you can do

it.

>> Because, I, the, best, things, happen, to, me

right after I'm at rock bottom. Like

whenever I'm like rejected hard

whenever like I'm like like in love with

someone who like is treating me like

garbage, that's when I fly. That's when

cuz you sort of like let go of

everything and you're like [ __ ] it. I'm

at rock bottom. I don't care. Let's go.

That's be that's a beautiful time. It's

when I'm soaring that I start I'm I'm

like I'm soaring. The ground is really

far away. I'm going to fall like and

then I get in my head and that's when

Yeah.

>> So, you, are, auditioning., You, and, I, are

both not making what you want to make.

What happens then? Then I think that's

when I started being like, "Okay, I have

to find my own opportunities." And I

think that's sort of when I like started

to find my friends and my community and

doing stuff on our own. So I started

like I started doing standup. Um

>> so, tell, us, about, your, first.

>> Yeah., Cuz, you, were, on, a, date., Is, that

correct?

>> Yeah., So, basically, this, poor, guy, is, like

>> he's, also, in, lay, miz., He

>> was, also, in, lay, miz., No,, I, feel, bad, cuz

I'm like every it's like I still know

him. He like is um he is like a comedy

producer, whatever. Great guy. But he

basically we went on like one I I want

to call it a date, but it was like

really like we went to the dining hall

and then he like fingered me. But it was

it I'm like that was our date. But he's

a lovely person. I He's a lovely person.

That's just college, you know. I'm

>> But, do, you, know, what, I, mean?, Yeah.

Sometimes that just happens. But so he

was like, "You should do standup. I've

been going to open mics. Do you want to

come with me to one?" And so wait, and

he was going to perform

>> and, he, performed., He, did, perform.

>> Okay., So, he, was, like, "Do, you, want, to

come watch me perform?"

>> He, was, like,, "Do, you, want, to, come, watch

me perform? But do you want to go?

>> Do, you, want, to, go, too, and, try, it?"

>> He, He, encouraged.

>> Got, it., Got, it., Got, it.

>> Shout, out., He, encouraged., So, we, go, to, an

open mic and I think I did stand up

about like him fingering me like 2 days

before. So, I was I was just like I have

no experiences other than this. It's

like pretty like I'm still like a

freshman. Like I'm like

>> Can, you, tell, us, a, little, bit, more, about

what you talked about? Would you be okay

to tell us?

>> Absolutely., Okay.

>> I, Well,, I, this, part, This, is, where, I, got

into something that I think I've I've

hopefully grown out of. But I I the

fingering was weird. And then my first

joke which I think he helped me write

was that it was like or maybe I think

maybe my friend my friend Moss helped me

write this part. Moss Peracone very

funny standup and writer on SNL

>> who, I, just, got, to, work, with, recently, cuz

I was just there and it was really fun

to watch.

>> He's, lovely., He's, so, funny., So, Moss, and

I would do open mics together too. So I

think Moss actually helped me write this

part of the joke which was that like he

was fingering me and it was like trying

to trick a vending machine.

free joke.

>> Great, joke.

>> Great, joke

>> that, I, I, think, all, I, brought, to, the

story was like it kind of hurt and then

he like wrote helped me write that part.

But I did that

>> and, I, got, like, I, also, it's, like, you, your

first open mic you go on stage and

you're like also I'm like 18 years old

at like a random open mic with like guys

from New Jersey and I'm like hi it's my

first open mic. So obviously like

everyone it the room was

>> warm

>> warm., The, room, was, warm, warm.

>> Mhm.

>> It, was, toasty., So, I, go

>> filled, with, perverts.

>> Yeah., Totally.

>> Absolutely., So, and, at, the, time, I'm, like

I'm a genius saying a joke I didn't

write in a room full of six perverts who

are all just like maybe she'll only be

here for one week and she'll kiss one of

us.

>> Totally., So, at, the, time, I'm, thinking

like I'm crushing. I am crushing. Um, so

I do that joke whatever and I get that

like high of performing

>> totally

>> and, then, like, for, the, next, like, two

years of open mics I'm really bad

>> but, I, am, like, chasing, that, initial, that

initial high of performance.

>> Yes., And, when, you, were, when, you, were

doing standup, like were you feeling

like, there, was a, party, that, was, like,

I'm going to be a stand-up, like I'm

going to be a stand-up, or did you feel

like standup was a tool or like a

stepping stone to what you wanted to do

which was write, act, direct, all the

stuff you're doing now?

>> I, think, like, a, little, bit, of, both., I

think in the beginning I was like, I

just want to do whatever I can get my

hands on. And like you can do an open

mic for like

>> $5., You, buy, like, a, beer, or, something, and

you can do an open mic. So I was like

"Okay, I can do this." And I did that. I

did like every student film

>> exercise, that, I, could, do., There, is, like

I had like a whole reel of like

>> some, of, the, worst, dialogue, in, history.

No, no hate. But it it was really like

I'm doing any I would do them like back

to back to back and I would like skip

class to do all these films. But then

also

>> I, met, talented, filmmakers, that, way., I

met my friend Emma Salman

>> and

>> who, who, directed

>> Shiva, Baby, and, Bottoms

>> and, so, I, was, doing, that, and, then, like, I

started writing sketches. I did a sketch

together that that's sort of like one of

my early memories of us like forming a

bond because she was so funny and I was

like I I was laughing the entire sketch.

completely unusable takes for me. But I

was like cracking up at her and then

like I wrote a sketch that the these

sketches about the babysitters club that

she was in and then we performed on each

other's shows. So it was like I was

slowly like building out the community

of like friends. So it was like I met Io

Moss

um my friend Katarina who's a writer

director Emma. So, it was like I felt

like I got to like build out my

community.

>> I, mean,, that's, what, it, kind, of, feels

like the 20s are about. Yeah.

>> Is, like, figuring, out, who, is, like, me.

Yes.

>> How, can, we, help, each, other, out?, Like,

how can I form some kind of community to

get me through the next

>> x, amount, of, years, like, of, of, trying, to

do the thing that I want to do. Yeah.

>> Yeah., Yeah., And, and, when, you, were, in

that period in your 20s, like well I

mean you just said that you turned 30.

>> I, just, did.

>> What, did, you, do, for, your, 30th, birthday?

What did how did you celebrate it?

Because I got to tell you my vision of

you is that you're partying every night.

>> I, am, wrong, sometimes.

But okay. Okay. Let me I so many things

to say. First, I just have to say I just

do Do you know about your Saturn return?

>> Uh,, not, only, that,, but, I, believe, that

I'm going to in just a year or two be

entering my second

>> Oh, my, god.

>> Because, I've, been, doing, research, for

this because of your show cuz I love LA

which we're going to talk about. And

it's all about Saturn's Return, which

you just went through.

>> I, did.

>> And, I, believe, you, go, through, a, second

one in I'm 54, but I think you start

going through a second one like 56, 57.

I have to I could look it up, but I

>> Are, you, Are, you, scared, or, excited?

>> I'm, excited.

>> You're, excited?

>> Very, excited

>> cuz, it, does., I, will, say, it's, nice, back

to the rock bottom thing when life sort

of like

>> shakes, you, up, and, you're, like,

>> "Whatever,, let's, rock."

>> How, did, it, shake, you, up?

>> Okay., I

I feel like it was like the whole thing

is like 3 years long, but there's really

like one month

>> that's, like, super, chaotic, or, for, me

there was like a month where that was

like really bad

>> and, I, felt, like, everything, all, happened

in one month. But basically like I feel

like in my early 20s I was partying

every night. I was like very messy

chaotic. I was like crying at the bar on

the table. Like it was really crazy.

>> Yep.

>> Then, I, feel, like, I, moved, to, LA, and, I

like I got really like a little weird

and like herdy and like kind of I don't

know. I went through this thing where I

was just not feeling good in myself.

Like the strike was happening. I was

really depressed. And I think I also

like had a lot of insecurities about

like

myself as a writer or creator. like I

didn't think I could like

make something on my own and I was

really scared to.

>> And, then, I, think, like, basically, the, the

big part of the Saturn return was like I

went through a breakup

>> and, I

didn't know about if my show was going

to get picked up yet. But in the

meantime, I had to sort of say no to

other opportunities, which was really

hard for me, especially because I I

think I defined myself off of my work

and my value off of my work. And so I

was like, I have to say no to stuff and

like trust my gut that this is going to

happen and that I can make something on

my own. Um, and when I say on my own

literally I made it with amazing room of

writers, amazing co-show runner

directors, blah blah blah

>> of, course., But, you, know,, women, always

feel obliged to say that and they don't

have to.

>> But, it, just, it, was

>> but, but, I, take, it, back., I, [ __ ], take

it back

>> because, no,, you're, absolutely, right.

Nobody does anything alone.

>> Nobody, does, anything, alone., But, you

you're you're making a really

interesting point which is like which I

see see this in you and women that

you're coming up with which is this you

know this moment where you have to kind

of decide to take ownership of the stuff

that you want to make.

>> Yeah.

>> And, decide, that, you're, ready, to, do, it.

>> Yes., Because, no, one's, I, think, like, it's

also like you can't do anything until

you do it. Like it's like I directed an

episode. You just have to direct one day

and be like, "Okay." Like obviously you

prepare and you write you draw the

little pictures all the things. What?

Yeah. Write the list and you go, "I

think the shirt should be blue."

>> Well,, that's, the, thing, about, directing

and and I want to talk to you about this

because you've been really I love how

you talk about directing and producing

and writing and showrunning which is

>> you, know,, people, act, like, everything, is

like a secret room. Like we learned this

from Hamilton like that. Like there's a

room where it happens and only certain

people are allowed in it and there's a

language and a vocabulary and only one

way to do something and it keeps people

out of the room.

>> Yes., Totally., And, then, you, get, in, the

room and it's like three guys being like

>> I, think, it, we, should, shoot, it, really

slow.

>> I, think, we, should, do, it, really, fast., And

you're like this is all this is what

they're saying.

>> This, is, what, they're, saying, in, here.

>> Totally.

>> You're, kidding, me., And, they, have, snacks.

They're ordering like three rounds of

coffees to say I think we should shoot a

slower fat. I got pissed actually

honestly the first time I got in there.

>> It's, incredible, once, you, get, inside, the

room

>> and, then, you, get, a, high, and, then, you're

like I'm staying in here and I'm

ordering 10 coffees and I WE'RE SHOOTING

IT FAST AND then slow. It's

>> So, you're, going, through, your, Saturn's

return.

>> You, come, out, the, other, side, and, you

greet 30.

>> Yes.

>> Do, you, party, on, your, 30th, birthday?

>> I, do, party, on, my, 30th.

>> I, do., Sorry., you, I, do, party.

>> Well,, what, does, that, look, like?

>> I, went, to, Sicying

>> for, my, friend's, wedding.

>> Okay,, great.

>> And, I, really, partied, there, and, then, I

stayed there for the week.

>> Perfect., This, is, what, I, expected,

Rachel. I'm happy to hear this.

>> And, I, really, I, really, went, off., It, was

great. It was fabulous. And it was good.

It was good because I feel like I've

been working for so long. Like I went

into the hole of making the show and now

I'm out every night. I'll tell you that

I am. I'm going to a concert tonight if

you want to come.

>> Where, are, you, going?

>> I'm, going, Okay., I'm, going, to, see, Do, you

know that girl Adella?

>> No.

>> I, wish, I, did.

>> She, You, You're, Jenna.

>> I'm, like, that, song, Sex, on, the, Beat., You

got to get on to that.

>> Oh, my, god., I'm, so, old., Adella,

>> we'll

you

and I'm I can't wait. And then I'm going

to I just basically I This is the other

thing. Tell me if you do this. when

>> she's, a, Slovakian, singer, songwriter.

>> Yes.

>> Very, cool.

>> She's, very, cool.

>> Cool.

>> Um, but, she, So, I'm, going, to, that, tonight.

But I I do this thing when I'm like

shooting something where it's like you

put off every single person in your

life. Classic.

>> You, you, make, promises, you, can't, keep.

>> Which, is, like, you're, like,, "Yeah,, I, when

this is over

I am going to be I am going to be out. I

am going to be just going to the club

and then dinner and then we should go on

a hike the next morning really early.

Like I make so many promises and then

it's like you you you get into a debt, a

social debt, but it's actually kind of

fabulous cuz then you just commit to a

period where you're like

>> you're, in, that, period, right, now., So

tonight is is it dinner first? I love

talking to people about plans because

>> I, love

>> I, don't, want, to, do, them, but, I, want, to

hear your plans.

>> I, want, to, know

>> Yeah., I, want, to, know, what, you're, doing

tonight.

>> Okay,, so, the, plan, is, we're, doing, a, group

dinner.

>> Amazing., Where?

>> At, my, boyfriend's, house., We're, ordering

food.

>> Fun.

>> So,, we, have, a, small, group, going.

>> We're, pregaming.

>> What, time, is, this?

>> This, is, probably

8:00.

>> [ __ ], That's, dinner.

>> I, know., I, like, an, early, dinner,, too., But

it's more It's sort of like, you know

if we do dinner too early, then we're

going to get sleepy before the show

>> right?, So, I, we, got, to, sort, of, what, I'm

thinking instead is like when when it

should be dinner that's when I'll be

taking a nap.

>> Yeah.

>> And, then, but, of, course, I'll, be, sleeping

with my glam on cuz I want to keep it

for the show. So I'll be sleeping like

this

>> like, a, soap, opera, star.

>> Like, a, sober, star., Glam, on

>> like, this, getting, lipstick, on, the, pillow

and then I'll jerk awake.

>> 7:45

>> Listerine,

you know, swishing around.

>> Yes.

>> Bam., Dinner., People, start, arriving.

Dinner.

>> Order, in.

>> Order, in.

>> No, cooking.

>> That, No, cooking., We're, No, cooking, for

that many people. Six. That's crazy.

>> Cooking, for, six, people.

>> That's, outrageous.

>> What, are, you?, Some, kind, of, machine, to

cook for six people? No way.

>> I, only, know, how, to, make, sweet, potatoes

and ground turkey. And then we're going

to be burping garlic all over the art

hose at the concert. We can't I can't do

that. No.

>> So

>> then, you, eat., Then, we, eat., And, it's

like, you know, drinking a little, maybe

I'm trying on outfits, maybe I'm leaving

dinner, coming back, presenting an

outfit to the group.

>> It's, fun.

>> Yeah.

>> Okay., Do, you, do, that?

>> No,, I, don't., But, I, I, in, general, have, a

weird relationship to outfits

>> really

>> that, I, like, I, and, I, love, and, I'm, very

very intrigued by your relationship to

outfits cuz for me outfits like I don't

have the feeling like

>> I, I'll, use, my, friend, my, good, friend, Maya

Rudolph as an example. When Maya Rudolph

gets dressed and she gets to change she

would love to do that what you're doing

like come in and out of the room with

different outfits be like look at my

outfit look at my outfit. That to me

feels so stressful.

>> Do, you, know what, you, should, do, it?, Do

you like to smoke weed?

>> I, don't, really, smoke, it, anymore,, but, I

will.

>> Okay,, for, this, or, it, could, be, glass, of

wine or it could be a little CBD joint

or whatever.

>> So,, I'd, rather, weed, over, wine.

>> Okay., Yeah.

>> Let's, do, a, Let's, do, a, like, a, gummy.

>> Let's, do, a, gummy.

>> Okay., All, right.

>> You, knock, back, a, gummy.

>> Okay.

>> Now,, you, could, I, kind, of, think, it's, good

to do this like on your own

>> cuz, then, you, and, like, maybe

>> by, myself.

>> Yes., start, by, yourself, because, then

you're not, you know, you're not doing

it for anyone or

>> you, better, believe, I'll, curb.

>> I'm, in, my, social, chapter., I'm, free., So,

>> I'm, already, worried, that, you're

overbooking yourself. Don't promise

that.

>> Okay.

>> But, I'm, just, saying.

>> Okay.

>> It, I, would, say, do, it, in, like, the

daytime. Gummy iced coffee so that

you're kind of your body's fighting

itself.

>> Okay., Okay,, I'm, in, my, apartment., It's

blazing sun. Gummy an ice coffee. 2:00

in the afternoon.

I just cancel all my plans. And what do

I do next? I go to my closet. Go to play

an elevator. Getting really high from

the coffee and then getting really down

from the gummies.

Then then what do I do? Then what do I

do?

>> Music.

>> Okay., Music., What, do, I, play?, What, do, I

play? I think is like something really

like ethereal fun. Okay. Like like you

know you make me feel like dancing.

Okay.

>> I'm, just, telling, you, about, a, Saturday

that I had like a week ago.

>> Okay., Perfect.

>> And, then, and, then, you, just, start, trying

[ __ ] on.

>> Okay., and, you, throw, stuff, on, the, floor

and you take pictures with stuff and

it's like and maybe like halfway through

you stop you order some food and it's

like and by the way you're not picking

up any of the clothes till the next day

when you're not high in the gummy

>> anymore., This, is, going, to, be, really, hard

for me.

>> Okay,

>> but, that's, okay., But, that's, okay.

>> It's, part, of, it, is, it's, just, like

there's no like there's no I'm cleaning.

There's no I'm organizing. You're

playing. You're trying stuff on. You're

and you and you should also have a

mirror with really good light. This is

why I'm saying the daytime cuz in my

house I have a mirror that only looks

good at a certain time. So you can take

this and you know it for like your your

vibe, you know, like but this is this is

just for

>> this, is, actually, really, helpful, because

it is about like what you're talking

about is about play like not just not

making everything so serious.

>> Not, making, everything, so, serious., And

it's like you can you can take pictures

of stuff or lots of times I'll do videos

of me like walking and then walking to

the camera and back and then I text them

all to my sisters and I go like heart

which ones you like.

>> Okay., This, feels, like, a, very, sister

thing.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah., Like, what, sisters, do, for, each

other?

>> Yes., And, then, you, can, get, feedback, and

then they can be like drop the vest

keep the scarf

>> right?

>> You, know,

>> and, do, you, take, that, feedback?, Do, you, go

>> depends

>> depends

>> depends, because, it's, like, sometimes, I'm

like you don't know this is a really

good outfit and then and sometimes you

by the way sometimes you'll try on an

outfit that you created that day

>> that, this, is, that's, inventing, outfits.

>> This, feels, like, level, two.

>> I, feel, like, I'm, at, level, two, right, now.

I just need to start

by taking the gummy during the day.

>> Just, start, by, taking, the, gum, just, start

by getting high in the morning and then

work your way up.

>> Work, your, way, up, to, all, of, this.

Okay. You and your sisters.

>> Yes.

>> Make, me, think, about, the, women, that, you

have like kind of like your chosen

sisters. Like you said, I owe. And

another chosen sister is Molly.

>> Yes., Love, Molly.

>> Molly, Gordon, who, we, spoke, to, before, this

interview.

>> Love., I, love, her., I, just, talked, to, her

last night. you. She said you guys talk

every day. She called you her wife.

>> Wife,, sister., We're, like, we're, it's

which is weird, but we like five

different things.

>> For, people, who, like, are, getting, because

I think like there's a lot of people who

are getting to know your work, Molly's

work, IO's work, like you are this

rising class, I think, of really really

talented artists and filmmakers and

showrunners and writers and and actors.

But Shiva Baby was a a film that you and

Molly did together that was this teeny

tiny film that really like exploded and

took off. Can you talk a little bit

about the path of that?

>> Yes., So, that, was, a, crazy, experience, and

it's crazier now looking back at it. Um

because so it was first a short film

that Emma Seligman wrote and directed

that I was in and it got into Southby

and after it got into Southby, Emma was

like I I still remember it was like Emma

and I like met up at a dig in um for a

dig in.

>> What's, a, dig, in?

>> Oh, my, god.

>> At, a, dig, in.

>> A, dig, in., It's, a, fast, casual, lunch

place. It's like a

>> Oh,, a, dig, in, is, a, restaurant., It's, sort

It's like a sweet green. It's like a

sister of a sweet green.

>> Uh, sweet, green, was, brought, up, earlier

because Molly was like, "That's a nice

place to go to the bathroom. They're

usually nice at Sweet Green."

>> They, They'll, let, you.

>> So,, dig, in., Is, that, an, LA, thing?

>> No,, it's, a, New, York, thing.

>> My, god,, I, don't, know, it., Okay,, good, to

know.

>> I, think, they, have, them, here,, too., But

there was really a chapter where it was

big. Okay.

>> In, New, York, when, we, were, in, college., So,

we meet at a digin. We're catching up.

And Emma is like, I'm going to make

Shiva Baby into a feature. And we were

also that's also the same day that we

came up with the loose idea for Bottoms

and we started writing it.

>> Wow.

>> So, we're, writing, Bottoms, while, Emma's

also writing Shiva Baby. And like

basically it was like

>> this, like, slow, process, of, building, the

movie out and it's like no one wants to

make a first time filmmakers movie. It's

like so impossible to get people behind

you. Um and it was sort of like this

this game of like we're trying to cast

the movie. we don't have the money for

the movie. Um, I wanted to shout out

Rian Jones who was one of the producers

who was like the first person to like be

like, I'm giving you guys money to make

this movie and and gave like a big uh

chunk of money. It was like a super

indie movie. I think the budget was

around like 200k, but it's like that's

really hard to raise that money when you

are college students and all you have is

a short film tour. So, it's like I

remember like talking with Emma and

we're like trying to cast the movie

without the money, get the locations

but get the funding at the same time.

So, it was all of that. And when Molly

signed on to do it, it felt like, oh my

god, like she's legit. because we had

seen both seen her in Books Smart and

been like she is so funny

>> right?

>> So, funny., And, like, she's, a, real, actress.

>> I, mean, I, that's, exactly, what, she, was

talking about. Like she said when you

guys met you were like you're a real

actress and she help us. Yeah. But but

it I relate because when you come

through the door of like comedy

>> Yeah., You, often, feel, like, that's, that

just kind of like you just you've always

that's the door you've always come

through.

>> Yeah.

>> And, it, takes, a, minute, to, figure, out, that

you know everyone is talented at a lot

of things.

>> Yeah.

>> Um, so, were, you, feeling, then, insecure

about your acting or anything or

>> Definitely, you, were., I, was, because, I, had

never been I was all of a sudden the

lead of a film

>> that, wasn't, fully, funded, yet, and, didn't

have a location. Like it was so like it

was like I think we got the rest of our

funding like a day before we shot the

movie.

>> And, basically, we, go, to, film, the, first

scene and it's me and Molly and I clam

up and I just whisper.

>> Oh,, you, whisper.

>> I, whispered,

>> right?

cuz you know sometimes when we're really

nervous we get like very sleepy and

tired and quiet.

>> It's, really, and, I'm, like, no, one, can, tell

if I'm doing a bad job if they can't

hear me or see me. So it's like the

first thing we film is that scene where

we like run into each other. where we

talk for the first time at the Shiva and

I'm like it's good to see you and it's

like Emma's like cut and so then Emma

like pulls me aside because they're an

amazing friend and director and they're

like so

we can't hear anything

we can't hear a word that you're saying

and I'm like totally did this in private

thank god and was and did it really

nicely but was like I think just like

maybe have a little more um voice And I

was like, "Totally, we go again." And

I'm like, "So good to see you." And I it

was I was I was like sweating.

>> This, is, so, interesting, because, we

started talking about like little Rachel

on stage being loud and then you have

this moment you're like, "Okay, now I'm

a real actor and now I'm going to get

very quiet.

>> I'm, going, to, do, I'm, actually, going, to, do

the It's like I'm not going to pitch my

fast ball. I'm going to do the opposite

of what I do." Well

>> I'm, going, to, drop, it., I'm, gonna, drop, the

ball on the floor and go I I like the

mound. Let's We'll keep the baseball.

>> Your, dad, and, the, Red, Sox, would, want, to

know that you can extend that baseball

metaphor. So it would be

>> on, the, mound.

>> On, the, mound, on, the, mound, or, sports.

>> Yeah., So, um, so, you're, But, that's, so

interesting. So then and then what

happens?

>> And, then, I, think, Molly, basically, was

like

>> Molly, can, do, she, like, charmed, the, pants

off of me basically and was like she

just started improving and talking to me

and talking before we were rolling

>> and, I, didn't, feel, like, I, was, in, a, scene

anymore. I felt like I was like talking

to her and flirting with her but feeling

like and it just as I it clicked for me

and like between Molly and Emma. Emma

coming and then it was like we got into

a group and then Emma came over and was

like whispering stuff in my ear of like

really like make her work for it on this

one or like like give in on this one

giggle on this one and

>> let's, move, the, camera, slower, on, this

one.

>> Let's, camera, slower, on, this, one., Fast.

Really fast. And then Molly was like

improving and like I just felt like

basically

they just but I just felt like so like

brought into the space and then I felt

like I know how to do this. But it was

like I think I I just I just watched

both of them like

>> shine, and, like, bring, me, into, their, like

like artistry is like a big word, but I

kind of felt like they both were like

"Come here. You you can do this." And

like I just it just Anyways, it really

like opened everything up for me and it

was really special.

>> Very, cool., Yes.

>> Now, Molly, had, a, question, for, you.

>> Okay., And

um the first one was uh please have um

Rachel tell the fingering story which

you already told naturally.

>> I, did, it, on, my, own., Wow., Huge.

>> Incredible., Um, so, thank, you, for, that.

And then this and and she said basically

said, you know, when she met you that

what she was so drawn to and what I feel

drawn to you right now, I'm feeling the

same thing, which is your like the great

audacity of here's what I want to do. I

want to do this. I want to do this. Like

like ambition, not being afraid of it

like feeling like you want to take up a

lot of space. and she said that

confidence like has that all has have

you always had that? The question is

like where did you where do you think

that came from?

>> It's, interesting, because, I, I, look, back

at myself at that time and I think I was

like I was very insecure and anxious but

at the same time I did always have this

feeling of like I have to do this

>> and, I, think, I, think, that's, from, my

family for sure. Like I think it's like

I there was like this thing of like okay

if you're going to do it then do it. And

I think like in my mind I was like I

can't even entertain the possibility of

not doing this because I don't

>> have, any, other, plan., I, don't

>> there's, never, a, job, you, would, want, to, do

instead of this. Did you ever think

about like another major or another job

other than insurance sales?

Yeah. I think now that I'm here, I'm

like, I would love to do marketing. I

love marketing.

>> Wait,, what, do, you, mean?

>> I, just, love, marketing., I, just, started

getting on marketing calls and I'm like

>> these, girls, are, fabulous., They're, just

so I'm just like I love I love

marketing.

>> You, like, you, like, figuring, out, how, to

get the message out. Yes. You're very

good at marketing. You're very good at

Tik Tok. You're very good at Twitter.

>> And, you, better, believe, I, have, I, have

sounds saved for us.

>> For, our, Tik, Tok.

>> Yeah., if, you're, down., Um,, I, have, a

question, a Tik Tok question for you.

How do you get your Tik Toks to move so

fast? You make it slow. I'll show you.

Wait, do you have you ever do slow-mo so

then it speeds it up?

>> No,

>> we'll, do, that, today.

>> You, shoot, it, in, slow-mo.

>> You, shoot, it., Yes., So,, it, shoot, It

shoots in So, the

>> Are, we, talking, about, a, cap, cut

situation? No. Fantastic.

>> I, won't, I, won't, do, that, to, you., I, I, will

not do that to you. Someone's laughing.

>> I, Claire, Claire, is, laughing, because, I

had her help me with doing a what I've

always wanted to do, which is green

screen. Basically, I'm talking in front

of a picture.

>> That's, what, I, want, to, do, and, I, don't

know HOW TO DO IT.

>> LEARNED., I, CAN, SHOW, YOU., I, CAN, SHOW, YOU

TODAY. I can show you. I just found out

how Claire taught me and now I can teach

you.

>> Okay,, we, might, we, might, have, to, do, that

is talk about ourselves in front of a

picture.

>> In, front, of, a, picture., We, can, even, take

a photo of us and then we can outfit.

It's so fun.

>> It's, so, Why, is, it, fun?, Cuz, I, think, it's

fun, too. Why do you think it's fun?

>> I, feel, like, I'm, playing, with, clay, and

dough. Like I feel like I'm like

play-doh. I feel like I'm doing crafts.

And then afterwards, you get to watch it

over and over and go, I made that. I did

that just now. It's so fun.

>> It, is, so, fun.

>> And, the, noises, and, the, colors., It's, just

the best.

>> But, it, makes, sense, to, me, because, you

definitely have this sense of knowing

how to exist in that space. And it kind

of comes back to you just like being

authentically yourself, which is just

hard to teach. You, you know

>> you, just, got, to, rock, it., I, guess

>> you, got, you, do.

>> But, sometimes, things, happen., I, don't

know if you've had this where it's like

you you're like, "Okay, I'm being

authentically myself. I'm being

authentically myself." And then

you either, these are two things that

have happened to me. You're either being

authentically yourself and everyone's

like, we hate it.

>> Yeah.

>> And, you're, like,, I, should, be, someone

else. I should be someone else. Or

>> you're, kind, of, being, a, version, of

yourself and everyone's like, we love

it, [ __ ] And then you change a little.

I'm never going to stop being a [ __ ]

but sorry, something else. Sure. You

know, you're like, I'm messy. I'm this.

Whatever. And then you go into a

different zone and then you're like, but

they still like that. I should keep

doing that. Yes. But in reality, you're

changing.

>> You, are, the, generation, that, has, grown

up. Like, when did you get your first

phone?

>> When, I, was, in, middle, school.

>> Yeah., And, you've, had, a, lifetime, of, being

online.

>> We, talked, about, this, a, lot, when, we, were

creating the show. I think there's like

a lot of times people like look at like

I'm going to say my generation, I'm I'm

like the millennial cusp. So, I'm not

I'm not claiming I'm not claim

millennial. I claim a millennial cuz I

feel real like I feel a bit of both. Do

you, know what, I, mean?, When, we, start

getting into Skippy Toilet, I get lost.

>> Sure.

>> You, know, what, I, mean?, I'm, like,, what's

going on? I didn't do kindergarten on

Zoom., So,, I, you, know what, I, mean?, Like, I

have I I didn't have what is this

called? Um when your brain fully

develops.

>> Oh,, um, your, frontal, lobe.

>> My, frontal, lobe., I, think, my, frontal, lobe

developed like what time does that

happen? Halfway through co

>> weird, time, to, have, your, frontal, lobe

closed during co

>> during, co, but, I, felt, it

>> snatched., You, were, like, snatched

>> snatched., Yes., Yeah., And, and, and, so, I, I

didn't have to go through like formative

development developmental years during

co or whatever. Like I think there's

something to do with that that I don't

have. Um, but the the we were just

talking about 67. I found out I'm in

group seven from Tik Tok.

>> I, found, out, I, was, in, group, seven.

>> Group, seven.

>> What, does, that, mean?

>> I, don't, know., And, so, if, I, was, fully

Jenzie, I would. Claire, explain it to

me cuz she is cuz she's 25.

>> Okay., Claire, will, explain, and, she'll

show us how to do the green screen.

>> How, to, do, the, green, screen.

>> Okay., Let's, talk, about, LA.

>> I'm, sorry, I'm, talking, so, I, could, just

same. and and and you have a great cast

and you shoot it in LA and do you love

LA?

>> I, do, love, LA.

>> Okay., What, can, you, help, me?, Because, I'm

actually genuinely it's I'm coming up on

like year 15 or 16 of being here and I

go back and forth between LA and New

York and I'm not loving LA right now. LA

is crushing me a little bit. Okay. I

think I want to go back to the East

Coast. Like I really, you know, my kids

are almost out of school. So, I'm like

feeling this giant pull and I'm trying

to stay with LA because LA has been very

good to me.

>> Yeah.

>> And, it's, there's, a, lot, about, it., I, love

California. There's a lot about Los

Angeles. I have a lot of friends here.

I've had great memories here. I've made

a lot of stuff I'm really proud of here.

But I'm just like, what do you love

about LA? And can you help me love it

too?

>> Yes., I, like, LA, most, in, the, winter.

>> I, do,, too., It's, my, favorite., January, to

April is heaven

>> cuz, everywhere, else, is, freezing.

Everyone else Everywhere else is

freezing. Meanwhile, we're going to the

beach in an Ugg and a hoodie. Beach in

an Ugg and a hoodie.

>> Yeah.

>> And, you're, getting

this. You maybe Okay. Morning.

>> Mhm.

>> It's, a, Saturday.

>> Okay.

>> Again,, weed, gummy, coffee., Sorry.

>> You, don't, have, to., You, could, do

something else. Who's driving?

Somebody's boyfriend. Somebody's

boyfriend.

>> Somebody's, boyfriend, is, driving., Not, us.

Or you're getting an Uber.

>> But, ideally,, it's, like, someone's

boyfriend is driving. Like the boyfriend

of the friend group. He's He's get He's

driving everywhere.

>> Great., I, like, this., Yeah.

>> And, you've, got, a, playlist., You, guys

stop. You got bagels.

>> Okay., Not, good, bagels, though, in, LA.

Yeah. Okay.

>> Go, to, Courage.

>> Okay., Great.

>> You, go, to, Courage, or, there's, a, place, in

Burbank called Hanks. Underrated. I'm

actually giving away my spot, but I know

you [ __ ] aren't going to Burbank, so

it's fine. Um, it's okay.

>> I, work, there,, so, I'm, going., But

>> you, worked, at, Hanks?

>> I, work, No,, I, work, at, the, lot.

>> Oh,, you, work, at, the, right, nearby., I, was

like, "Oh my god, you also work at

Hanks." Okay, I work

>> I, have, two, jobs., I, have, three.

>> So,, you, get, your, bagel.

>> So,, you, get, your, bagel, and, now, you're

eating your bagels in the car or you

save them. You get to the beach. You run

on the sand. You're just sitting on the

sand in like jeans and an Ugg and a

sweater.

>> Yeah., I, love, I, love, the, beach, in, a

sweater.

>> Beach, in, a, sweater., It's, completely

empty cuz no one else has this good of

an idea except for us. And And you're

just like vibe. you're having a beach

day, but you're having a winter beach

day and you can make it into a thing

like you could then then you could go

like up to Tanga Canyon and you could

buy a set of tarot cards for your friend

and go on a hike over there. There's

like some really nice hikes in Malibu.

There's like a you could go to the pier.

You could get like um seafood at Broad

Street Oyster Company, but like you make

a day in the winter that you couldn't do

somewhere else.

>> I, completely, agree., You, know what, I, I

think Los Angeles, California in the

winter is where it really shines.

>> Is, really, where, it, shines.

>> The, rest, of, the, year, is, tough, for, me.

>> So,, what, if, what, if, you, stuck, around?, We

do like beach day in the day weed gummy

closet.

>> Yeah., And, it's, like,, by, the, way,, we're

in bed at 7:00.

>> I, don't, believe, you.

>> We, will, be, if, we're, starting, a, day, with

a weed gummy

plans tonight. I know, but that's cuz

I'm in a social chapter.

>> But, in, January, and, February,, in, January

in a social chapter, we're hibernating

but we're hibernating with our friends.

>> Okay., Okay.

>> And, our, community,, we're, we're

hibernating with like six people.

>> I, I

>> Or, three, if, that, feels, better.

>> That, actually, really, did, make, me, like

Los Angeles more. What you just said

>> this, is, the, thing., New, York., Bam., You're

confronted with a new chapter or an

event or whatever and it's it's thrown

in your face and it's fabulous and it's

going like wake up. You just met this

person on the street.

>> LA,, you, have, to, do, it, a, little, for

yourself, but you get to sit down in

your room one day delusional. Me this

alone.

>> Hi., In, my, in, my, closet., New, era., Let's

go.

>> Okay., Um,, lightning, round.

>> Lightning, round., I'm, walking, in.

>> Have, you, done, Iawaska?

>> No., Should, I?

>> No.

>> Okay.

>> Um, Okay., Are, cigarettes, making, a

comeback?

>> They, are., They, are., But, we, have, to, stop.

But they are.

>> They, are.

>> And, they're, good., But, also,, who, can

blame us? Look at what is happening.

>> I, know.

>> I, know., And, they, were, they, were, feeding

they were feeding people the vapes at

12.

>> I, know., The, vapes, hopefully, are, taking, a

break, but cigarettes are back.

>> Well,, the, the, cigarettes, are, people

trying to wean off the vape.

>> Oh,, that's, so, brutal., That's, like, heroin

to not take your oxy

>> heroin, to, to, pill, to, heroin, pills.

>> It's, hard, out, there., Okay., Album, you're

listening to right now?

>> I've, been, listening, a, lot, to, the, Addison

album.

>> It's, an, album, that, makes, me, feel, very

like

>> free., It, makes, me, feel, like, my, mom's

friend who always wore yoga pants who

was like really chic.

>> Mhm., and, sexy, and, like, sexy, kind, of, a

little sleepy and in a dream

>> and, so, free., I, was, like,, "Yeah,, yeah,

>> Addison, feels, very, like, free, to, me."

>> Um,, is, there, a, person's, career, path, that

you look at and admire?

>> Definitely., I'm, not, being, a, suckup.

Can't you can't see.

>> I'm, not, allowed., You're, sitting, right, in

front of me. What if I was like, I need

AN IDEA. BAM.

WHAT IF BEFORE THIS podcast someone

pulled you aside and said like when Amy

asks that you you have to say her. She

gets really upset.

>> She, gets, really, upset.

>> That, would, be, crazy, if, they, said, that.

No, I I just I do want to say like Okay

so I'm sorry. I'll just say it and then

we can cut it and genuinely and then

I'll say someone else. Okay. But I I do

really want to say like genuinely like

you have made a difference in my life

going to pursue comedy and going to to

like be funny and be loud and be bold

like and also be kind. Like I feel like

when I read your book, I was like there

was

the ability to be like

both like bold and loud but also like

vulnerable and sensitive.

>> I, think, is, some, that, like, sometimes, it

feels like you're not allowed to have

both.

>> And, I, I, I, feel, like, you, need, both, and

you should be able to. And that's

something that I get from you or like am

inspired by from you and like I think

like the women you your community like

Maya Rudolph, Tina Fay, all of them.

>> Thank, you,, Rachel., That's, really, nice.

>> So, that's, true., But, now, do, you, want, me

to say someone else? Okay. Um uh

um

I Britney Murphy is an actress that I

really look up to. I think she's an

incredible actress. Um or was it an

incredible actress? She's just someone

who like I saw her

>> in, like, immediately, like, when, I, saw, her

in Clueless I was like she just has

something special and she's very she was

very true to herself. She was, you know

I she hosted SNL my first season there

and she I remember her being like really

kind,

really super hardworking, very open to

ideas and you're right, she had like a

sparkly interesting quality about her

and she could do a lot of things really

well.

>> Yes., Like, I, feel, like, had, so, much, range

and like

>> I, don't, know., I, felt

like there's certain people where it's

like it's like the character wouldn't be

the character if it wasn't you playing

it and I feel like she has that

>> which, is, really, special.

>> When, was, the, last, time, you, cried?

>> Um

yesterday because I this is the other

thing. So I didn't cry for a speed round

but I'll say it really fast.

>> That's, okay., You, I, like, speed, rounds, to

go slow.

>> To, go, slow.

I didn't cry for like a long time

because I was so like stressed about the

job and I was trying to take it

seriously and be locked in and I was

like there's no time to cry. There's no

time to cry. And then I think now that

I'm in my social era and I have like a

little space to breathe like the lid is

coming off

>> so, I'm, just, crying, more, freely.

>> Yesterday, I, sort, of, had, a, little, bit, of

a manic episode. This goes back to the

closet thing where I remembered a shirt

from 3 years ago

that I haven't I just was like, "Wait a

second.

>> Where, is, it?

>> Where, is, that?", And, then, I, started, like

rumaging through my closet. Not in a fun

way. Node weed gummy. Just like

panicked.

>> Yeah.

>> Panicked., Texting, people, pictures, of, the

shirt being like, "Have you seen this?"

Texting my mom being like "Is this at

home?" She's like, "What?" Like that.

>> What, do, you, think, the, shirt, meant?, What

was it? When you thought of the shirt

where did you where had you worn it?

What did it mean to you? What did it

represent?

>> I, think, it, was, that, I've, been, living, in

my place for too long and I used to live

there with my ex-boyfriend and I live

moved around to Airbnbs before I lived

in, that, place, and, all, of a, sudden, I, was

just like where's all my stuff and who

am I and then I started to cry.

>> Yes., I, think, that, material, I, think, that

objects can do that.

>> Yes., And, then, the, last, question, is,, what

are you listening to, watching? What do

you do when you want to laugh? What do

what kind of stuff do you do when you

like need a break? Like when you want to

get out of your head and just feel good

>> and, feel, good., I, have, a, couple, friends

and my sisters where it's like we send

each other like Tik Toks that are like

really weird and then like I catch up on

all the Tik Toks that like my friends or

my sister sent me and I like feel like

I'm watching like their show kind of the

fee that they've curated for me and then

I reply to all of them like haha this is

us when we're in the car with mom. This

was us when we would go on a walk drink

whatever and that feels that's fun and

silly for me. It's funny. It's like we

do this at our work at at our office at

Paperkite. We like show each other our

feeds to see what where everyone's heads

are at.

>> Yeah.

>> And, you, know,, sometimes, my, kids, will, be

like, "Mom, your feed is really sad."

You know, like I'm like, "You're right.

It's too sad."

>> Like,, but, by, the, way,, sometimes, that's

good because then you can go, "I'm in a

sad period right now."

>> Totally., I'm, not, in, my, social, chapter.

>> I'm, not, in, my, social, chapter.

>> So,, like,, what, is, it?, What, is, I'm, just

as we finish, can you remember any Tik

Tok that you enjoy that is funny?

>> Yes.

>> Oh, my, god., Amazing., You, want, to, show, it

to me?

>> I, would, love, to., Let, me, Let, me, go

through.

>> I, don't, even, know, how, to, get, Tik, Tok, on

my laptop.

>> I, was, going, to, show, you, on, my, phone.

>> Yeah., Yeah., Okay., Here, we, go., What, are

we watching?

>> I'm, just, going, through, I, mean,, let's

look.

>> Okay., So,, how, would, you

>> How, would, you, describe?, Okay., This, is

incredible. Yes, this is incredible.

This is a video of um it says

"Congratulations. It's a girl." And then

it says the girl and the girl's walking

around wearing a giant pig head holding

a baseball bat

>> to, a, creepy, little, song

>> to, a, creepy, song., And, she, looks, awesome.

>> She, This, diva, is, I'm, like, she, knows, who

she is already.

>> Yes.

>> Yeah.

>> That's, very, good., That's, very, very

funny. Okay. And then we've got

>> priest, DJ.

>> A, priest, DJ.

You just feel like he has a hobby and a

passion. Like, do you know what I mean?

Like, I'm like, he's having fun.

>> He, is, having, fun., Yeah., All right,, Ra,

I'm, going to, have, you, sit, back, in, your

chair so we I can properly say thank you

>> for, coming, and, doing, this.

>> Thank, you, so, much, for, having, me., This

was a damn delight.

>> This

Thank you so much, Rachel Senate. That

was so fun. you are a delight and so

funny and charming and I could have

talked to you all day and um you know

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So let's get into this plunge as we

finish up this episode. We talked a lot

today about Saturn's return. And if you

don't know what that is, it's basically

this period in astrology that occurs um

around the ages of like 20, late 20s

late 50s, and late 80s. And it's when uh

the planet Saturn returns returns to the

same position that it was in when you

were born. So, we all went through it or

some of us went through it or are going

to go through it in our 20s. I'm just

here to say I'm looking forward to the

next return for me, the next change. Um

I don't know what's around the corner.

If life has taught me anything, it's

that I cannot predict what is going to

happen. But I look forward to the first

human robot

marriage on TV

and um

that we will be we will have run out of

water and

we'll be drinking other things during

that return. So, um, uh, but if anyone's

going through Saturn's return right now

in their 50s, write in and let me know

how it's going for you, babe. Can't

wait. Okay. Um, today's Polar Plunge was

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Bye.

You've been listening to Good Hang. The

executive producers for this show are

Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss Berman, and

me, Amy Polar. The show is produced by

The Ringer and Paperkite. For The

Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Cat

Spelain, Kaia McMullen, and Alia

Xanerys. For Paperkite, production by

Sam Green, Joel Levelvel, and Jenna

Weiss Berman. Original music by Amy

Miles.

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