Transcript: Kenan Thompson on Good Hang with Amy Poehler
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Hello everyone. Welcome to another
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episode of Good Hang. I talked to the
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amazing, kind, hilarious Kenan Thompson
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today and we talk about some really fun
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stuff. We talk about Eddie Murphy and
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how important he was to both of us. We
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talk about learning how to ice skate and
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how it is hard and Kenan is good at it.
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We talk about how we partied really hard
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and how uh we suffered uh because of it.
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And um and we talk about um can I wear
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sunglasses on the red carpet? Am I
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allowed? Is that cool? And the answer is
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no. So we're going to talk to Kenan
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today. Cannot wait. And before we do, we
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always check in with somebody who knows
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our guest, who wants to speak well
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behind their back, who wants to give me
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a question to ask them. And that person
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is world superstar Maya Rudolph. Maya
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Rudolph joining me today from Zoom. Um,
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you know, just I don't know, comedy
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legend, whatever. No big deal. Friend of
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the pod. Let's see what Maya's up to and
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check in on that cutie pie. Maya,
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[music]
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All I ever wanted. [music]
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>> Oh, you look much nicer than I do.
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>> I'm trying to dress a little bit like
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Kenan.
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>> A
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>> Oh, what mug are you drinking out of?
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>> It's um late night with correction
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jackles from [laughter]
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from Late Night with Seth.
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>> Is your house just filled with mugs that
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you've gotten from various talk shows?
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Mine Mine kind of is.
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>> I wonder if like Johnny Carson
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and like MV Griffin and Dinosaur if they
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ever had mugs.
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>> Do you know what I would give for one of
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those mugs,
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>> right?
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>> Do you know what we were looking This is
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going to this is really ADHD and this is
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going to take us on a completely
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different tangent. It doesn't matter.
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>> You know, you know what we were just
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looking up this morning? Bicesentennial
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31 flavors/baskinrobins
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bsentennial ice cream flavors
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and do you know what some of them were?
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>> Wait, so just set this is this is 1976
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flavors.
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>> 1976 for the bsentennial
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31 flavors aka now known as
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BaskinRobins. Or is it the other way
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around? It's Baskin Robins.
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>> I think it's the other way around now.
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It's
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>> they don't they have more than 31 now,
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>> right? Yeah. Um,
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one of them was called Valley Fudge
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[laughter]
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>> instead of Valley Forge.
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Valley F. [laughter]
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>> Mhm.
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>> What was another one? May uh
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>> Oh god, now I got to look it up again.
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[laughter] Well, one pie was one was
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apple pie alam mode.
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>> Yeah, [clears throat] sure.
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>> That's cute.
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>> Cute.
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>> But like give me value. Give me a word.
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>> Oh, thank you. Minute Amendment.
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So stupid.
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>> You know, Gen X
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has lived, we live, we were alive. I was
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>> alive during the bsentennial and here we
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are celebrating 250 years. And boy, has
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America never been better.
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>> That's exactly how I feel.
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>> Yeah, it's true.
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>> I mean, when you think about how far
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we've come.
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>> Well, how far we've come and how much we
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fixed. That should be the the the the
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slogan. We've fixed a lot. We're talking
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to Keenan Thompson today and I'm so
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psyched that I'm talking to you because
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you and Keenan are linked in a lot of
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ways for me. Like I think some of my
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most fun and most tender and funniest
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moments
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are
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watching the two of you perform. Like
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you guys really have a connection. How
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would you explain it?
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>> You know, when you meet your people and
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you can't really you can't really find
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words for it. So, you just feel like
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you've known the person your whole life.
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I always feel that when I see Kenan, I
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feel like he's always been there and we
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don't have to say anything. Mhm.
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>> It's And it's there's a there's a
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relaxation that comes
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>> Mhm.
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>> over me when I when I see him, when I
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watch him.
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>> Yes.
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>> It's like watching an incredible
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musician. you know that you're in good
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hands and you can't wait to see what
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they're going to bring you because you
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know it's going to be masterful and
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amazing, but it's also going to fill you
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with like a with a joy like it's
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relaxing. I used to feel that way about
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watching Prince on stage. I'd get
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relaxed cuz I was like he can do
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anything. He can do anything. Kenan,
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I'm instantly
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instantly
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like warmed and already giggling a
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little bit. There's a twinkle in his eye
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that says it all.
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>> Yes, Maya. It's so true. There's a
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twinkle. I have such strong memories of
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him, you know, inviting him into our
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dirty dirty office, [laughter] sit, you
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know, sit on the floor on his knees or
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something like I mean, we we lived like
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disgusting college students, Amy.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And you too, that was your perch.
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>> That was a bad perch.
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>> Bringing bringing friends into that and
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giggling till 4 in the morning. I
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remember so clearly
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um writing stuff with him. If I bring it
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up now, I'll probably get cancelled what
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we were writing. But [laughter]
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but it was so fun and all we did was
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laugh. All we did was laugh. Like
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listening to songs and finding the
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little tiny minute things and then and
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then going in and laughing. Um,
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>> I mean, a great example of that is one
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of my favorite characters and sketches
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in at SNL ever, which is Titi and Mario.
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>> TT and Mario.
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>> So, for people that didn't ever watch TT
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and Mario, how would you explain who
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Titi and Mario were?
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>> It's a great Thank you for asking me. KT
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and Mario is is a duo from your
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childhood past that is so they sing the
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most beautiful love songs [snorts] that
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are so runchy and disgusting. They think
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they're very loving.
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>> Yes, they're romantic.
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>> Married couple with children. [laughter]
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They're they've been together for a very
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long time.
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>> And sometimes one might say that
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sometimes they need the music to to make
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things fun again. And what I love about
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them is they always start so beautiful
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and so romantic and then maybe 10 or 15
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seconds in they start talking about each
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other's booty and how tight it is.
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>> Yeah. There's a lot of booty play
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involved and Titi and Mario serenated
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you in the hospital.
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>> That's right. When when Archie was born.
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>> That's right. I want to talk to Kenan
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about it because it was so it was like
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if I could have picked two I couldn't
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have picked two better people when I was
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in a postpartum haze to be singing at me
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from my TV
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>> than you guys. It's funny I'm I'm
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excited to interview Keen because
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there's a lot I actually don't know
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about him. He's he he's he's more of a
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>> coyote
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>> more of a coyote. more of a he's more of
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a of an observer
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>> and a mirror than he is sometimes a
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sharer. Do you have any questions for me
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today that you would like to hear Kiki
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talk about?
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>> I I mean we're different ages in terms
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of like our influences, but he was so
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like
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wellformed when we met him like I want
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to know what he was doing. I know he was
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performing as a young person, but like
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how did that how did that get in there
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as like,
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oh, I know when I'm when I'm big, I'm
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going to be this. Like, how did those
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influences create the Kenan that we
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know? Because I feel like he came out
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like this. I I can't imagine him any
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other way. I also just want to know like
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like I know you're going to ask him
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about like how how do you keep it fresh,
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Kanan? [laughter]
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>> Totally. I mean, I'm so curious about
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like what do you not go to or do
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anymore? I mean, after 22 years at the
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show,
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>> Oh my god. Like,
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>> you know,
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>> how have you how have you like bypassed
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>> Yeah. How does the system work for you?
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>> Yeah. I'm curious.
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>> I feel like he might he might actually
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be experiencing like the like the dream
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of SNL because if you've been there long
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enough to be like, "Hey guys, I'm going
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to have to go this way."
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>> Yeah. It's probably the dream.
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>> I know. It's probably Why would you ever
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leave? It's so fun.
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>> Did you ever like He he figured it out.
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>> Yeah, that's He cracked the code and I
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want to know what he cracked.
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>> I think there's there's gold behind
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those doors. [laughter]
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>> But like little Kenan is always what I
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think about and I'm also and I didn't
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know Little Keenan and I'm curious like
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I guess I equate it to when we were
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little like we would do plays in our
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living room and things like that. Like
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was he just the guy who made his friends
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laugh? Was he the guy who
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>> was like cuz he's always been so steady
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and so funny.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And it feels like
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>> like where does that charm come from?
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>> Okay. So, I'm going to ask Kenan about
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little Kiki, which we all know little
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Keenan is probably the cutest kid we've
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ever seen
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>> on earth. Like like hands down. And
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because I like knowing if that if that
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person knew that that person was going
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to be the the person we know today. And
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I feel like it's a yes. I feel like that
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guy always knew.
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>> I feel that way about you too, Maya.
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Like I feel like seeing little Maya on a
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home movie like singing into a
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microphone.
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>> You You knew that, too.
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>> That's all I wanted. I just wanted a
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microphone and to laugh with my friends.
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>> Yeah.
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And look at you guys singing together
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about putting whipped cream on each
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other's business.
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>> That's all I want for America [laughter]
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is for them to put whipped cream on each
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other's business.
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>> All we want is for Valley Fudge to make
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a comeback. [laughter]
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>> Honestly. Yeah. Don't you love this
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angle? I mean, I picked a great angle.
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My neck looks like
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>> You actually look great. What does it
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say in your shirt?
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>> Oh, Rory's Place.
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[laughter]
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It's my favorite restaurant in Ohio.
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Maya just dropped the the phone down her
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shirt by accident.
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>> Oopsie.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Oh no, it fell down my pants.
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>> Do you kids want to see what happens
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when my phone falls? [laughter]
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I feel like relaxed and smiley cuz we're
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talking about Kenan. You know what I
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mean?
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>> Totally.
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>> I love you.
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>> Love you. Bye, mama. Thanks.
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>> Bye.
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>> Listeners, Kenan brought me some fish.
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>> Of course.
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>> Wow. Um, this is becoming a thing now
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where I'm getting fake food.
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>> It's real. How are you doing?
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>> Are you going to wear your sunglasses
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the whole time?
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>> I'm not. I knew that would be a thing.
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>> Well, no, because I was going to say
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I'll put some on, too, if it would make
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you like it.
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>> I don't have any, but I could wear some.
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I would like them off cuz I want to see
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your beauties.
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>> Of course. It's good [laughter] to see
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you too.
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>> I just feel cool when I wear them.
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>> I do, too.
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>> I feel cool. Okay. What do
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[clears throat] you mean?
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>> Look at this.
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[laughter]
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>> Wait, come on.
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>> Okay, let me explain this. Kenan,
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>> that is for you. Okay.
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>> Kina brought me a pizza a a slice of
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cheese pizza.
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>> I think it's an artistic expression of
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the pizza rat.
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>> Oh, it's pizza rat. There's a rat riding
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a slice of pizza. This is the first time
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I've had a fake food that moves like in
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any way. This is great.
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>> And it almost reflects us cuz I feel
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like we're such fun kind of like life
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lovers of like a good time kind of
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thing. It just reminds me of like us as
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characters. So
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>> Kenan, wait. And then you have to kind
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of You got to get it going. Here we go.
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Ready?
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>> Pull it back for those listening. We're
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pulling it back
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>> and then it goes. We'll pull it back a
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little strong. Go. [laughter] Come on.
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[crying]
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>> And you can't break it. So long story
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short, I went shopping and I thought of
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you. [laughter] I saw it and I thought
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of you and I've been holding on to it
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before I even know I was booked on here.
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>> No way, Ken. Just fingers crossed hoping
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that [laughter]
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one day I would get to come sit in the
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throne room.
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>> Okay. Well, I'm going to put it.
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>> Oh my god. You know, we got to add Thank
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you, Jenna. Um I'm going to put this on
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my wall.
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>> Oh, look at the placement.
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>> Front and center placement. That is
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That's Super Bowl placement.
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>> That's Super Bowl. That is
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>> You got to pay a lot of money for that.
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>> Byron Allen placement. [laughter]
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>> Oh, man. The best.
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>> Ken Thompson is here.
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>> Hi. Hi. How are you doing?
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>> I'm great. You're doing this on both
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coasts?
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>> Yeah, we get to do it in LA and New
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York, which is the best. You just get to
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do it wherever you are.
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>> Yeah. And convenient for like guesting
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people, I'm guessing.
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>> Yeah. Really convenient.
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>> Yeah. [snorts]
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>> Congrats on the golden. Who gets a gold
- 15:06
for a podcast? Who gets No one does.
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Exactly. That's why you're such a guest.
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Exactly.
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>> That's amazing. Congrats to everyone,
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you guys. That's really cool.
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>> Congrats to podcasting.
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>> Yeah. Way to go. Podcast. [laughter]
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>> You have a podcast, right? I did a
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podcast for a long time with a buddy of
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mine. Yeah.
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>> Yeah. What was it? What was it about?
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>> It was just two black guys existing in
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America, [laughter] you know what I
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mean? With a love of like, you know,
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Hollywood and stuff like that. So, you
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know, director. Yeah. I listen to
- 15:34
podcasts. I listen to yours.
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>> I just caught up with the Lonely Island
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cuz
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>> so funny.
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>> I did a guest appearance because of the
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REA episode and then I was like, wait a
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minute. Let me look at how long they've
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been doing this. And I went back to the
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beginning
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>> and it is a long ride. And God bless
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those guys for just showing up. And
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they're so
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>> showing up. Barely showing up.
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>> Barely showing up.
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>> It's hard to get all four of them on the
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line.
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>> Oh, it rarely happens. And [laughter]
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it's such a treat.
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>> Totally.
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>> But they're combing through like such
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good memories, you know.
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>> I know. I know. I felt the same way. It
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was like really good to go back in time.
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And we have so much to talk about, Ken,
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because we were on the show together for
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>> a while. Like six years. six years which
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now
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>> was the big it was like the first
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>> six miles of your marathon basically.
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>> When did you depart?
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>> I left in 2008.
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>> Yeah, that was like a five year cuz I
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started in 03. So
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>> Well, I'm I I mean getting to work with
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you is some of my most favorite times
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and I want to talk to you about it today
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because you're so attached to so many
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important moments in my life. We thank
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you. And likewise, like I talk about my
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sisters all the time. Like I consider
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y'all like,
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>> you know, such the like get out of my
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room kind of like but also like
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[laughter] straighten up and don't come
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like playing games. That's why I was
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like I was ready to take my sunglasses
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off. So this is not
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>> like take I'm like your bossy older
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sister.
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>> Let me just analyze. Are you going to
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keep those on the whole time?
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>> Are are you going to wear your
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sunglasses to mom's birthday?
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>> Yeah. Yeah. You're so right. It we do
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have a very there is a very sisterly
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quality with you and a lot of the women
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that you performed with during my time.
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And then you've like you've gone your
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family dynamic at SNL has changed from
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like younger brother
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>> to like elder statesman.
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>> I'm like grandpa at this point. Yeah.
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Yeah. I'm Gramsy. Hey Graham Grams.
- 17:29
[laughter]
- 17:30
>> Good morning.
- 17:31
>> Everyone's like sh grandpa's feet is
- 17:33
sleeping.
- 17:33
>> Grandpa's feet [laughter] grandpa's feet
- 17:35
hurt.
- 17:36
>> Don't tell him. Let's just do less for
- 17:39
grandpa. Yeah.
- 17:40
>> Um, okay. I'm going to take you back in
- 17:42
a little time machine to little Keenan
- 17:46
>> because the teeny tiniest little version
- 17:49
of Kenan knew pretty early that he
- 17:52
wanted to be a performer. You're one of
- 17:56
three kids. You're the middle.
- 17:58
>> Yeah, but my sister's my halfsister.
- 18:01
>> Okay.
- 18:01
>> Just for technicality sake 14 years
- 18:04
apart.
- 18:04
>> Okay. So were you then were you were you
- 18:07
the baby then?
- 18:08
>> I was the baby.
- 18:09
>> Okay, that makes more sense. That makes
- 18:10
more sense.
- 18:11
>> Just reckless and fearless, you know,
- 18:14
and just a strange like, you know, kind
- 18:17
of ignorant confidence, if you will, you
- 18:18
know?
- 18:18
>> Do you remember the very beginning? I
- 18:20
feel like a lot of performers have this
- 18:22
feeling like they remembered that
- 18:25
sparkle that they got when they got like
- 18:27
attention or looked at. Do you remember
- 18:28
that like early time?
- 18:30
>> I mean, I talk about it all the time. It
- 18:31
was the gingerbread man, you know, like
- 18:32
in kindergarten. I'm like in the
- 18:35
graduating play, but like I was a
- 18:37
gingerbread man, you know what I mean?
- 18:39
Like I wasn't the stove.
- 18:41
>> Yeah.
- 18:41
>> So, it wasn't awakening because in
- 18:43
rehearsal it was just like learn these
- 18:44
lines and like this got to do this thing
- 18:46
or whatever. But once I saw people there
- 18:48
and then I recognized my mom and my mom
- 18:50
was smiling and you know she was so
- 18:52
happy and like excited and it just made
- 18:54
me like
- 18:55
>> perform more and then like
- 18:57
>> you know the audio of hearing laughter
- 19:00
like after something I said I'm like oh
- 19:01
wow what is this? And
- 19:03
>> totally, I can remember that feeling,
- 19:05
too. Like the feeling of just like
- 19:06
getting a feeling a little bit taller
- 19:08
when you were when people were looking
- 19:10
at you.
- 19:10
>> I mean, look at us now. We're still just
- 19:13
fishing for laughs constantly. It feels
- 19:15
so good.
- 19:16
>> So embarrassing. I know. God bless.
- 19:18
>> It's so true because and I read that you
- 19:20
were you were Toto and um
- 19:22
>> that's what I'm saying. I got really
- 19:24
hooked on trying to do something that
- 19:26
that gains laughter. I just wanted to
- 19:28
put those away because sunglasses,
- 19:30
>> they were OCDing me a little bit.
- 19:32
>> First of all, these glasses are
- 19:33
gorgeous. Who makes them?
- 19:34
>> Thank you. Those are Gucci glasses.
- 19:36
>> Of course they are.
- 19:38
>> And I get it now. I get it what you mean
- 19:40
about being able to talk behind the
- 19:43
sunglasses.
- 19:44
>> Yeah.
- 19:45
>> Do you think I could pull off And we'll
- 19:46
get to your life,
- 19:47
>> but do you think I could pull off Eye
- 19:50
contact is intense
- 19:51
>> and you can pull off anything. No, but
- 19:54
you can pull off sunglasses on the red
- 19:57
carpet, right? That's cool as [ __ ]
- 19:59
>> I have made it a thing to where like I'm
- 20:03
just fine with if they're mad about it
- 20:05
or not because I feel like Jack was the
- 20:09
coolest and he never took his sunglasses
- 20:11
off. And I'm like, that means you don't
- 20:13
have to.
- 20:14
>> But wouldn't it look like I just
- 20:15
recently had eye surgery if I [laughter]
- 20:19
>> only in the beginning?
- 20:21
>> Right. Then you once it's a thing, it's
- 20:23
just like, oh, that's her artistic
- 20:26
expression or whatever kind of like
- 20:29
excuse you can get away with.
- 20:30
>> You're so right. Okay. Wizard. I just
- 20:32
want to get back to Toto
- 20:34
>> for a second. You played Toto.
- 20:35
>> I played Toto because all the parts were
- 20:37
taken and I was like, well, nobody's
- 20:39
going to be the dog and this is a church
- 20:41
play on the south side of Atlanta there.
- 20:43
I'm sure we didn't have many like
- 20:45
terriers to to choose from. So, I was
- 20:48
like, I'll do I'll do the dog. Like, why
- 20:50
not? I just wanted to be down.
- 20:52
>> There's a lot of people I've talked to
- 20:53
that have been in the W W W W W W W W W
- 20:54
W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
- 20:54
W W W W W W W W W W W Wizard of Oz in
- 20:55
different ways. What did you bring to
- 20:56
the role?
- 20:57
>> Well, this was the Whiz, so it was
- 21:00
fantastic.
- 21:01
>> Even more fun.
- 21:02
>> Yes. The music and everything and
- 21:05
>> I brought tenderness to the role when
- 21:07
Dorothy needed it. I remember like
- 21:08
cuddling up to her and like the whole
- 21:10
church being in it, you know, just a
- 21:12
small like maybe like hundred people
- 21:14
maybe something like that. And to feel
- 21:17
all of them acknowledge my performance
- 21:20
in that way was like,
- 21:21
>> yeah, it's addicting, you know? And then
- 21:23
like there's a moment where everybody
- 21:26
like runs to the back of the church when
- 21:28
the scene is over to set for the next
- 21:29
scene and like I've been crawling around
- 21:31
on all fours. So they left me and I was
- 21:33
just like, "Oh snap." Like they're all
- 21:34
gone and I can't go. So I stood up as a
- 21:36
dog and ran and that got a laugh.
- 21:39
>> I was just like [ __ ] swinging on that
- 21:42
one. [laughter]
- 21:43
I don't want I don't mean to be like
- 21:45
jumping like comparing your story to
- 21:48
mine, but I had a similar experience.
- 21:51
>> I was Dorothy.
- 21:52
>> We had a real dog.
- 21:53
>> Yeah.
- 21:54
>> And there's a moment in this scene where
- 21:56
Dorothy is supposed to have a tornado.
- 21:57
Like the tornado is supposed to come and
- 21:58
she's supposed to go to Toto to where
- 22:00
are you? But I was holding the dog.
- 22:02
[laughter]
- 22:02
>> I was like, this is we didn't go over
- 22:04
this part. So I put the dog down,
- 22:07
>> walked a few feet away and I said, Toto,
- 22:10
to where are you? Big laugh. a huge
- 22:12
laugh because [laughter] everybody
- 22:13
watched you process that and you stuck
- 22:16
with it and committed to like continuing
- 22:19
to work. Man, improv is the greatest
- 22:22
coolest thing. I wish I would have gone
- 22:24
to one of the schools for
- 22:26
>> I know you you have you you you feel
- 22:28
like a like from that era from that like
- 22:31
style and family.
- 22:32
>> And did you know any actors growing up?
- 22:35
>> No, not at all. It was such a distant
- 22:38
dream. the best I would have thought
- 22:40
would be like a commercial, like a
- 22:42
national, like a public, you know, when
- 22:44
I was starting to book those in the
- 22:45
beginning,
- 22:46
>> you know, Sonic, like whatever kind of
- 22:48
like I thought that was kind of the, you
- 22:50
know, the mountain I would be on kind
- 22:51
of.
- 22:51
>> And was it your mom that was taking you
- 22:53
those mostly?
- 22:54
>> Yeah.
- 22:54
>> Yeah. And she was just like,
- 22:56
>> my mom's so dedicated. She got a job at
- 22:57
the Alliance Theater School so I could
- 22:59
take classes. She got like a side gig
- 23:01
there like as a like
- 23:03
>> answering the phone or like some kind of
- 23:05
like office assistant, you know what I
- 23:06
mean? so I could take classes at a
- 23:08
discount or whatever it was. Like the
- 23:10
acting thing, I just I just loved it.
- 23:12
>> You loved it. I mean, the theme I feel
- 23:15
like of today's talk and you Kenan is
- 23:17
like
- 23:18
>> you feel like everywhere you arrive like
- 23:22
is the like timing is so important in
- 23:24
your life career and in the way you
- 23:26
perform. I think you have the best
- 23:28
timing of anyone I've ever worked with.
- 23:31
>> Your timing is incredible. the way you
- 23:34
know how to play moments and the know
- 23:37
the way you know how to play life
- 23:38
because life is its own game. You're you
- 23:41
have to figure out how to play
- 23:42
>> and I'm just in awe of your timing.
- 23:45
>> Oh man.
- 23:46
>> And so
- 23:46
>> I guess I'm the second one to start
- 23:48
crying. [laughter]
- 23:49
>> Shout out to Seth.
- 23:50
>> Cry cry. Oh my god, Seth. So easy to get
- 23:52
that cry. The best.
- 23:54
>> But it's so like but [snorts] but it but
- 23:56
because of that I look at your life and
- 23:58
your career which is still we're in the
- 24:00
middle of it. or not, but like and and
- 24:02
the way in which wherever you are was
- 24:05
where you were supposed to be at the
- 24:07
time.
- 24:07
>> And weirdly enough, it's always felt
- 24:09
that way. You know what I mean? Like
- 24:10
I've never been like overly pressed.
- 24:12
Like the SNL audition was extreme, but
- 24:14
like
- 24:15
>> on the way to that, for some reason,
- 24:17
everything felt done already. Like I
- 24:19
already have this job. like I already
- 24:21
have made my friends, you know, before I
- 24:24
even like met the all that cast. I was
- 24:26
just like
- 24:27
>> I feel like this is mine to do kind of
- 24:30
thing, you know?
- 24:31
>> Yes. Yes. It was like that's exactly
- 24:32
right, Kenan. It's like it feels like
- 24:34
every opportunity for you felt like you
- 24:36
were meeting the opportunity when it was
- 24:38
meeting you.
- 24:40
>> And when when you were
- 24:42
>> I mean you were you were on TV when you
- 24:44
were what 11 12 doing like movie
- 24:48
reviews.
- 24:48
>> That was like a real job. Yeah.
- 24:50
>> Like when I first like was dipping my
- 24:53
toe in the water, we would like
- 24:56
>> kids going along with the news anchor to
- 24:58
this new like exhibit at the zoo. Like
- 25:01
it was like about dinosaurs and they did
- 25:03
like a little mini special about that.
- 25:05
Like that was like the beginning. So I
- 25:07
was like this is just playtime. We get
- 25:08
to be in the zoo after hours kind of
- 25:10
like that's cool,
- 25:11
>> right?
- 25:12
>> But like real news for kids, I was like
- 25:13
oh snap. I have like an ID badge.
- 25:15
[laughter] like I get to like tap it
- 25:17
briefcase
- 25:18
>> to have that so young.
- 25:20
>> It just pointed me confidently in in the
- 25:22
direction of like this is kind of what I
- 25:24
feel like I should be doing. And then
- 25:25
all kind of kids stuff started
- 25:27
happening. Like my first review was the
- 25:29
first Mighty Ducks movie.
- 25:31
>> No, no way.
- 25:32
>> Like almost a year to the day I got to
- 25:34
audition for the second one and ended up
- 25:37
like making it in. And then the director
- 25:41
knew the producers from the Nickelodeon
- 25:44
shows and they like connected me to
- 25:45
that. So that audition I was real cocky,
- 25:47
you know.
- 25:48
>> They were like, "Hey guys. Hey, hey, old
- 25:49
friends.
- 25:49
>> What do you need? You You need a
- 25:51
Jamaican. I got you." [laughter]
- 25:54
>> It's interesting cuz you look young. You
- 25:56
still look young.
- 25:57
>> Thank you.
- 25:58
>> Um isn't it nice to now is what we're
- 26:01
supposed to be saying.
- 26:02
>> Well, I don't know about that. Maybe
- 26:03
with the sunglasses on.
- 26:05
>> Yeah. Put the glasses on.
- 26:05
>> Put the glasses. [laughter]
- 26:08
It would would it be weird if I wore
- 26:10
those glasses, a cane, and like a and a
- 26:12
boot and went to
- 26:13
>> That's when people are starting to
- 26:14
worry.
- 26:14
>> Yeah. And like a wrist like one of
- 26:16
those. Um
- 26:17
>> like what did she fall down on the
- 26:18
beach?
- 26:21
>> And half my face is sunburned.
- 26:23
Um but you but you had a you have and
- 26:27
had a baby face, but you definitely had
- 26:29
a poise of someone much older than you.
- 26:32
Like I'm curious if you've always felt
- 26:34
your age. I mean, a lot of kids who are
- 26:36
acting at a young age, especially like
- 26:38
making money for their family
- 26:40
>> and being around adults most of the
- 26:43
time, but you had the kind of pleasure
- 26:46
and privilege of working on a show with
- 26:47
a bunch of other kids.
- 26:49
>> Yes.
- 26:49
>> So, you were with people your own age
- 26:51
pretty much?
- 26:52
>> Yes.
- 26:52
>> Did you do you feel older or younger
- 26:55
than your age? Like, what is your story?
- 26:56
>> I've always felt like an old man. Like I
- 27:00
feel like I came
- 27:02
>> right from something that happened in
- 27:03
the 70s and I stayed kind of like
- 27:05
connected to the 70s and I don't want to
- 27:08
like it's my favorite era
- 27:10
>> and like yeah I feel like Taurus energy
- 27:13
just you know capitalizes on that and
- 27:15
I'm very relaxed and just chill and like
- 27:18
>> don't want to be that not too loud
- 27:20
please everybody just everybody
- 27:22
[laughter] settle down
- 27:24
>> please like I can't handle it like when
- 27:26
people like loud talk me in restaurants
- 27:28
and it's just love But they when they
- 27:29
shot my name, I'm like, "Please."
- 27:31
>> Yeah. You don't like that. I I know that
- 27:33
about you. And your influences were like
- 27:36
that, too. Like Richard For Prior, Eddie
- 27:39
Murphy.
- 27:40
>> Just the the the black zag zeitgeist
- 27:44
basically of that era and then onward
- 27:47
and then of course as I got older
- 27:48
looking backwards and learning your
- 27:50
history kind of stuff. But
- 27:52
>> I I love like
- 27:54
>> you know the black exploitation era and
- 27:57
like diving back into those sounds and
- 28:00
those words and like having fun with it
- 28:02
basically cuz it's like you know playing
- 28:03
in your dad's clothes basically.
- 28:05
>> Yes. Did you guys watch as a family like
- 28:08
stuff together? Were you a laughing
- 28:09
family? Like were you a comedy family?
- 28:11
>> My dad is the joker for sure. Like he's
- 28:14
the joke teller and he does really well.
- 28:16
He's like a room pleaser when he does
- 28:18
that. Like I remember like at my
- 28:19
grandmother's house, he would have my
- 28:21
grandma like almost like peeing her
- 28:23
pants like literally. And this is my
- 28:26
mom's mom, you know what I mean? So he
- 28:27
really doing a dance kind of thing.
- 28:29
[laughter]
- 28:30
>> Is he a frustrated performer?
- 28:31
>> I don't He's a He's a Gemini, so I think
- 28:34
he does a lot of things. Well, so you
- 28:37
know, he was like he drove like
- 28:40
>> NASCAR kind of cars. He was in the
- 28:42
military.
- 28:43
mechanic, you know, like,
- 28:45
>> you know, amazing like real estate
- 28:48
person like
- 28:50
>> made history in Atlanta for kind of
- 28:52
desegregating uh like listings and stuff
- 28:54
like that.
- 28:54
>> Really?
- 28:55
>> Yeah. So, like he's a very cool dude.
- 28:58
And on top of that, Yeah. loves to tell
- 29:00
a joke. And then my mom has this like
- 29:04
secretive kind of sense of humor, like a
- 29:07
little prissy, cuz she's like the older,
- 29:10
>> she's the oldest of seven, you know, and
- 29:13
they come from kind of it's actually
- 29:15
called forest Virginia, so you can
- 29:16
imagine there's lots of trees there and
- 29:19
not a whole lot of buildings.
- 29:20
>> So, she comes from literally the forest
- 29:22
and like kind of had to be a little more
- 29:24
like suited and booted. But yeah, she
- 29:26
has this like sneaky little laugh where
- 29:28
it's just like, "Oh, you like to laugh
- 29:30
at the naughty.
- 29:31
>> Look at you being naughty." kind of
- 29:32
thing. [laughter]
- 29:33
>> So for me, I have a little bit of both,
- 29:35
but I'm I'm not really like a room
- 29:37
gatherer unless it's like a fixed
- 29:39
performance.
- 29:39
>> No, you're not like you're not looking
- 29:41
to win the room.
- 29:42
>> Yeah. No,
- 29:43
>> no. I mean, I I would say that my
- 29:44
experience with you is that you are a
- 29:46
little bit more of a three-point
- 29:47
shooter. Like you wait for your time and
- 29:50
you like to observe. You like to see how
- 29:51
people are playing.
- 29:52
>> Yeah. I like to to Steph Curry it a
- 29:54
little bit and like when it's time to
- 29:55
turn it on just like take over the game
- 29:57
>> and you shoot it and you shoot you do
- 29:59
like a no look on your way out.
- 30:00
>> Oh yeah. Like I know that's going in.
- 30:02
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- 30:03
>> It's definitely your style and and it's
- 30:06
rare to have a like a career before you
- 30:09
reach SNL.
- 30:10
>> Yes.
- 30:11
>> Like and and not always helpful.
- 30:13
>> No. It hadn't gone well I don't think
- 30:15
for anyone at that point. I was like
- 30:18
>> I just want to do whatever because this
- 30:20
writing thing freaks me out. So you guys
- 30:21
tell me what you want. And it took 5
- 30:25
years before I wrote something that was
- 30:26
like my idea
- 30:27
>> on the show.
- 30:28
>> Mhm. Scared Straight was like the first
- 30:30
thing that actually made it on the show
- 30:31
if you will.
- 30:31
>> Well Well, you know, we talked, we
- 30:33
brought up Eddie Murphy, and I want to
- 30:34
talk about what it was like to do that
- 30:35
sketch at the 50th. But what's your
- 30:37
early memories of Eddie Murphy? Because
- 30:38
for me, I'm older than you, but not by
- 30:41
much, but enough that when I was
- 30:43
watching SNL,
- 30:44
>> when I started watching SNL, it was
- 30:46
Eddie's year. He was 18, 19. When do you
- 30:49
remember me?
- 30:50
>> That was kind of me watching from down
- 30:53
the hall when I wasn't supposed to still
- 30:55
be awake kind of stuff. You know what I
- 30:57
mean? And like I remember hearing Hot
- 30:59
Tub before I actually was able to watch
- 31:01
it,
- 31:02
>> right?
- 31:02
>> You know, just like trying to just be
- 31:04
and I just remember being in PJs, you
- 31:06
know what I mean? And like
- 31:08
>> watching my dad just like laugh. I think
- 31:11
he was still like my mom was asleep. He
- 31:13
was just like the only person up. house
- 31:14
dark and you just see that like blue
- 31:16
flashing, the glow and like
- 31:19
>> Yeah.
- 31:20
>> Isn't it funny? You have memories as a
- 31:21
little kid of like when your parents
- 31:23
would laugh really hard at something. It
- 31:24
was like you would look at them like
- 31:26
>> what happened?
- 31:27
>> What happened? What's funny? And it just
- 31:29
imprints on your brain immediately then
- 31:31
forever what you think is funny.
- 31:33
>> It was always fun getting to a place
- 31:36
where like we could share laughter
- 31:38
together in the same sort of sense of
- 31:40
humor like with my dad. You know what I
- 31:41
mean? Like once we started like quoting
- 31:43
coming to America to each other and like
- 31:47
>> certain moments it was just such a
- 31:48
dynamically fun time because it was like
- 31:50
our little thing you know like we played
- 31:52
pool [snorts]
- 31:53
>> we quote coming to America you know what
- 31:55
I mean and it's like a dad and two
- 31:58
brothers basically. It's really cool.
- 32:00
It's kind of like you're what you're
- 32:01
when you're saying like that it's
- 32:02
reminding me that like for some families
- 32:05
comedy is sports
- 32:07
>> like that's how you connect
- 32:10
>> is you talk about what you think is
- 32:12
funny and and like and I know that you
- 32:14
loved Eddie. I know you love Richard
- 32:15
Prior and you also love Chris Farley who
- 32:18
you got to work with. Tell us about
- 32:20
that. and Jim Carrey like
- 32:22
>> Oh, and Jim Carrey.
- 32:23
>> Super duper fan of Jim Carrey and I
- 32:25
emulate him I think more probably than
- 32:27
anybody as
- 32:28
>> as far as like micro performing goes.
- 32:32
Like I feel like he performs every
- 32:34
possible
- 32:36
>> like syllable kind of thing in his
- 32:39
physical body. It's it's wild to watch.
- 32:41
But Farley is just a full buffalo, you
- 32:45
know what I mean? And like he was just
- 32:48
so dynamically funny. not just falling
- 32:51
down funny like he had some quips that
- 32:54
were incredible.
- 32:55
>> Yeah.
- 32:56
>> And sometimes his performances were just
- 32:58
like
- 32:59
>> he's the only one that can do that kind
- 33:01
of thing. So he came to all that and did
- 33:03
that like
- 33:04
>> Yeah.
- 33:05
>> It was the greatest day I've ever seen
- 33:06
cuz I was like that's a true pro. That's
- 33:09
somebody that doesn't need cuz they
- 33:10
would tell us and rehearse us a lot cuz
- 33:12
we were kids kind of thing.
- 33:13
>> He came in and didn't need any
- 33:15
instruction at all. He was playing a
- 33:18
ketchup chef that likes to put ketchup
- 33:20
on everything. And of course, my
- 33:22
character likes to put chocolate on
- 33:23
everything. So, it was a battle. And
- 33:26
they had this eight layer chocolate cake
- 33:29
because we were celebrating something or
- 33:30
whatever.
- 33:31
>> And you know, Nickelodeon likes to make
- 33:33
a mess, but they like to shoot up until
- 33:35
right before the mess and stop and like
- 33:37
do that part a few times to make sure
- 33:39
they got it, if you will.
- 33:40
>> Right. And they really politely asked
- 33:43
him like,
- 33:43
>> "Please."
- 33:45
>> And you know, take one after we got and
- 33:48
we got to that point destroyed that cake
- 33:50
like it was nothing. Like I think on
- 33:52
purpose because they tried to tell him
- 33:55
to do something.
- 33:56
>> Mhm.
- 33:56
>> And he like beat the cake up to where
- 33:59
there was like there's no way we're
- 34:00
doing a second take of this.
- 34:02
>> Jumped in the car, jumped in the
- 34:04
limousine and was gone. [laughter]
- 34:07
>> Like they have showers. You like we got
- 34:09
showers for you. I'm fine. towed off a
- 34:11
little bit, still ketchup in his hair,
- 34:13
and was out of there.
- 34:14
>> And I was like, "Now that's a gangster.
- 34:17
That's a That's a professional
- 34:19
gangster." And so damn funny. And so
- 34:22
nice.
- 34:22
>> So nice.
- 34:23
>> So nice. Never fronted on me for being a
- 34:25
kid or anything. He just came in and
- 34:27
like we was like, "Let's get to it."
- 34:28
kind of thing.
- 34:29
>> You know, I think I'm sure every young
- 34:32
person feels this way. They remember the
- 34:34
people that like treated them like peers
- 34:38
when they were feeling Yeah. when they
- 34:39
were um and they remember the people
- 34:42
that were um dismissive of them when
- 34:44
they were young because we really do act
- 34:47
especially with young people like they
- 34:49
don't know what the [ __ ] they're talking
- 34:50
about or like it we're always doing that
- 34:51
to them
- 34:52
>> and like I have a problem with like
- 34:54
people's boundaries like I learn hard
- 34:56
lessons with that because I'm just very
- 34:58
like outgoing and kind of like we're
- 35:01
we're fine with this right you're fine
- 35:02
if I just keep tapping you on the
- 35:04
shoulder like you know me kind of thing
- 35:05
and some people put you in your place
- 35:06
and you're like hey man stop tapping me
- 35:08
and I was like oh snap Like I'm sorry I
- 35:10
crossed that line. TC [laughter]
- 35:13
>> like Magnum PIT TC. I was so excited to
- 35:16
be next to him. You know what I mean?
- 35:17
Like that's what Nickelodeon did. It put
- 35:18
us,
- 35:19
>> you know, in proximity to a lot of very
- 35:21
famous people kind of thing. And I was
- 35:23
just
- 35:23
>> overly excited. I'm like, "Isn't this
- 35:25
great, my man?
- 35:26
>> Look at this. This is an awesome thing."
- 35:27
He's like, "Hey, man. Stop tapping me."
- 35:30
>> And I was like, "Oh, oh my god. I
- 35:34
overtap TC." [laughter]
- 35:37
But you're but you're what you're
- 35:38
talking about is just like straight up
- 35:40
like etiquette on set
- 35:42
>> that a lot of people when they arrive at
- 35:44
SNL not only have not ever been like on
- 35:48
TV but often have never been on any kind
- 35:50
of set and there is an etiquette to to
- 35:53
your point how you approach people how
- 35:55
you how like how to be a professional
- 35:58
>> and like I Kenan you are such a
- 36:02
professional in the way you approach
- 36:03
your work and the way you deal with
- 36:05
people you're really really smart and
- 36:08
you you have a lot of experience and you
- 36:10
could feel it immediately when you
- 36:11
arrived at SNL. But when you think back
- 36:15
on those early like days of learning
- 36:17
about what it was like to be on a set,
- 36:19
what was like the things that you
- 36:21
learned? What were some like takeaways
- 36:24
that you still think about like what you
- 36:25
try to bring to other sets?
- 36:27
>> The first Thank you for all of that.
- 36:30
Second,
- 36:32
free stuff was the first thing I
- 36:34
noticed. [laughter]
- 36:36
I was like, I'm in the right spot. I I
- 36:39
knew it. I knew it. If the Price is
- 36:41
Right was doing it, I knew everybody was
- 36:44
doing some version of that. Whether it
- 36:45
was snacks or drinks or whatever,
- 36:47
whatever I'd like I needed to ask for.
- 36:49
If you little Wendy's, little bacon
- 36:51
cheeseburger meal. Can I get that?
- 36:53
>> And absolutely get that. Absolutely no
- 36:55
problem.
- 36:55
>> That don't even take your wallet out.
- 36:57
[laughter]
- 36:59
>> Fantastic. I'll do whatever. We'll be
- 37:01
here in 19 hours. You know how many of
- 37:03
them are? You want to jump in the lake?
- 37:04
Am I supposed to jump in the lake?
- 37:06
Whatever.
- 37:07
>> Yeah.
- 37:08
>> And that was definitely like a check
- 37:11
check that box.
- 37:12
>> But also the size of things. Like when I
- 37:15
got on the Mighty Ducks and saw like a
- 37:17
movie set,
- 37:18
>> all these trailers and like so many
- 37:20
clothes for everyone. I'm like
- 37:23
[laughter] what what are all these
- 37:24
clothes for? Like all the different
- 37:26
scenes in the movie. They got to wear
- 37:27
different clothes. I'm like different
- 37:28
clothes. That's crazy.
- 37:30
>> Oh, it's a lot of pressure.
- 37:32
>> Super pressure. I didn't know how to
- 37:33
skate.
- 37:34
>> Okay, let's talk about Mighty Ducks
- 37:36
because you are one of my you you're one
- 37:38
of my friends that skate the best.
- 37:40
>> Thank you.
- 37:40
>> You you're an incredible ice skater. A
- 37:42
lot of people don't know this.
- 37:42
>> Thank you. And I I pride myself with
- 37:44
that because it's not like a big known
- 37:47
thing amongst the black community that
- 37:49
just ice skate like that, you know, like
- 37:51
there's only certain people that do it.
- 37:53
There's only certain couple few people
- 37:54
in, you know, in the NHL or whatever
- 37:56
kind of thing.
- 37:58
>> You know, New Yorkers or people in cold
- 38:00
climates kind of do it around Christmas
- 38:01
time kind of thing. just, you know, kind
- 38:04
of like going bowling, if you will.
- 38:06
>> I remember I have a very good at it is
- 38:08
wild.
- 38:08
>> To get good at it is hard. And I have a
- 38:10
very clear memory. They used to let us
- 38:13
at Christmas shows at SNL.
- 38:15
>> It's the best.
- 38:15
>> Best. They don't do they do that
- 38:16
anymore.
- 38:17
>> They haven't done it in so long.
- 38:19
>> You got to do it. They used to let us I
- 38:21
mean, talk about free stuff. Talk about
- 38:22
perks. Is on the Christmas show, we'd be
- 38:25
like, "Good night." And then they'd cut
- 38:27
to like maybe a bumper and we'd all get
- 38:31
to run downstairs. What would we do?
- 38:33
>> We got to get there. There would be like
- 38:34
a golf cart all of a sudden inside the
- 38:36
hallway sometimes like for people to
- 38:38
just like zip down there. Some people
- 38:39
would be down there already. But if
- 38:41
you're in that final thing kind of thing
- 38:43
and then we would wave goods on the ice
- 38:44
>> be in the Rockefell on the on the ice
- 38:46
ring
- 38:47
>> underneath the Christmas tree.
- 38:48
>> Yeah. At Rockefeller Center and just us
- 38:50
at one o'clock in the morning.
- 38:52
>> Yeah. And I go down there and I see
- 38:53
Kenan and Kenan is you are skating
- 38:56
forward, skating backwards, skating
- 38:58
sideways, doing a thing. What are you
- 39:00
doing?
- 39:01
>> Doing 45 million tricks.
- 39:03
>> Thank you.
- 39:03
>> And then I was like,
- 39:04
>> I was fresh off of learning it. Yeah.
- 39:06
Yeah. Yeah.
- 39:06
>> So, how hard was it to learn for you?
- 39:08
>> Very cuz like I remember like I was just
- 39:11
talking about this the other day like
- 39:12
roller skating and going to like roller
- 39:14
skating rinks is what we had in Atlanta.
- 39:16
>> Yeah.
- 39:16
>> Like I was busting my ass constantly.
- 39:18
You know what I mean? As a kid, but you
- 39:20
don't feel anything as a kid. I just
- 39:21
feel the knots later kind of thing. But
- 39:23
I remember like both feet up falling all
- 39:26
the time,
- 39:27
>> you know, like all the time.
- 39:29
>> Yeah.
- 39:30
>> So sure, I put it on my resume under
- 39:32
special skills that I could roller skate
- 39:34
or something like roller skating, you
- 39:36
know, but like I never in a million
- 39:38
years
- 39:40
>> considered hockey. I wanted to learn,
- 39:42
but after that first day of hockey camp,
- 39:44
which was on my birthday,
- 39:46
>> my 15th birthday, I wanted to quit it
- 39:48
all.
- 39:49
>> Oh, I bet. I was like, I don't want to
- 39:50
be an actor. I don't want to if this is
- 39:51
what it's about. Like, and my thank god
- 39:54
my mom didn't let me quit.
- 39:55
>> She was like, no, go back tomorrow.
- 39:57
>> Kept going back and back in like
- 40:00
>> 8 weeks on both movies. You learn how to
- 40:02
skate.
- 40:03
>> Yeah. Do you skate? Do you find ways to
- 40:05
skate now? Do you look for it?
- 40:07
>> That's great. Skating with the family.
- 40:08
You know what I mean? Christmas time.
- 40:10
>> Both know how to skate.
- 40:10
>> Yeah.
- 40:11
>> That's awesome.
- 40:12
>> Yeah. They both are good little skaters.
- 40:14
>> They are.
- 40:15
>> Do you watch any ice skating during
- 40:16
Olympics?
- 40:17
>> Yeah. I mean, I watched the figure
- 40:19
skating. Yeah, that I watched the the
- 40:21
girl with the
- 40:22
>> three tiered, you know, kind of hairo.
- 40:24
>> Yeah. Alyssa Leu.
- 40:26
>> Is that Yes.
- 40:27
>> I know she's from from Oakland area.
- 40:30
She's from the Bay.
- 40:31
>> Was that
- 40:32
>> unbelievable?
- 40:33
>> Just because of how casual she is.
- 40:35
>> Yes.
- 40:36
>> And like she's just chilling, but like
- 40:38
the thing she can do on the ice,
- 40:41
>> bro. It's that I give her all the
- 40:43
medals. Like it was wild to watch.
- 40:45
>> Well, she
- 40:46
>> that and hockey. I guess I watch
- 40:47
>> she reminds me of when you perform
- 40:49
because she was very relaxed and you get
- 40:52
and like when we're watching her we're
- 40:54
like she's good she's good and the ner
- 40:56
like nerves
- 40:58
>> nerves are like if you can figure out
- 41:00
how to channel your nerves. [laughter]
- 41:02
>> Oh man.
- 41:03
>> So what were your nerves like when you
- 41:05
were auditioning for you're 23 which is
- 41:08
still really I mean in the in the
- 41:10
context of the show I guess it's not so
- 41:12
young but just feels so young. When I
- 41:14
watch your audition
- 41:16
on SNL, there's a small moment that is
- 41:20
Samberg did it too when he auditioned
- 41:23
where you take a moment before you start
- 41:25
and you go, "Oh my god, SNL." You said
- 41:28
it like to yourself
- 41:30
>> and and I I Samberg had a similar moment
- 41:33
where he was just like you could tell he
- 41:34
was like [laughter] but it's it it's
- 41:37
very it was very inviting. It was not
- 41:39
like this person is like cannot handle
- 41:41
their nerves. It was It felt like what
- 41:43
you do so well, which is you like zapped
- 41:45
yourself to the present moment. You're
- 41:47
like, "Here I am. I'm here."
- 41:49
>> Yeah. And it's like I have to call it
- 41:51
out because if I don't, [laughter]
- 41:54
it'll be like it didn't happen kind of
- 41:56
thing. So, I have to like put it in in
- 41:58
the words that like I recognize that
- 42:00
this is crazy.
- 42:01
>> It feels like also just a way to
- 42:04
secretly kind of quiet your nerves like
- 42:06
just to say it. silently putting that
- 42:09
seat belt on
- 42:11
like in like remember in Fight Club when
- 42:13
he's just like,
- 42:15
>> "You know what? I'm just going to get
- 42:16
crazy with this and let this steering
- 42:18
wheel go.
- 42:18
>> I'm just going to let it go."
- 42:20
>> And I just like let my mind just start
- 42:22
rambling. It's so my audition is so
- 42:24
rambly. It's crazy.
- 42:26
>> Oh, I mean it's not and and I I I think
- 42:28
I've told you the story, but I watched
- 42:31
your audition from a um we were filming
- 42:35
Mean Girls.
- 42:36
>> Did I tell you the story? I've told you
- 42:37
this story. And
- 42:39
>> Lauren had the auditions. He was
- 42:41
watching them on the plane.
- 42:43
>> Private.
- 42:44
>> Private. Pink Jang.
- 42:46
>> PJ.
- 42:47
>> We know somebody that got money.
- 42:48
[laughter]
- 42:50
Our friend got money.
- 42:53
>> And um probably the first time I'd ever
- 42:55
um flown private. I I don't even I
- 42:58
remember. And it was during Me and
- 43:00
Girls. And we must have been flying back
- 43:01
from the set cuz Tina was there
- 43:03
>> and Lauren was there and Lindsay Lingo
- 43:05
was there.
- 43:06
>> Incredible. And we watched your
- 43:07
audition.
- 43:08
>> That's crazy.
- 43:09
>> And we were all like, "He's incredible."
- 43:11
And Lindsay was like, "I love him."
- 43:13
>> And [laughter]
- 43:15
I remember I know. And I think at the
- 43:18
time you probably already had the job.
- 43:19
But it was I the one thing I remember
- 43:23
more than the content, which you realize
- 43:25
very fast, nobody cares about the
- 43:26
content. Like you think the content, the
- 43:28
jokes, everything is so important. You
- 43:30
could have the best written material in
- 43:32
the [ __ ] world. You can have the best
- 43:34
jokes in the world. If people don't feel
- 43:37
like relaxed, happy to see you, drawn to
- 43:40
you for whatever reason, it just it
- 43:43
doesn't work. It's like it's this crazy
- 43:45
chemistry thing. the craziest part of
- 43:47
casting. Like casting is such a like
- 43:51
>> shout out to, you know, casting people
- 43:53
that like
- 43:54
>> do it well because
- 43:56
>> it takes a whole lot of like
- 43:59
>> well thanks for thanks for coming in but
- 44:01
you know we'll get back to you and like
- 44:03
being able to they're like nurses, you
- 44:05
know,
- 44:05
>> God, you're right. They're like through
- 44:07
the awful news.
- 44:08
>> We're going to give you a shot. It's
- 44:09
going to hurt.
- 44:10
>> Yeah. or [laughter] like let's try that
- 44:12
again
- 44:12
>> and this and this time
- 44:15
>> do everything different.
- 44:16
>> Oh, I mean yeah they're like um maybe
- 44:20
this time try to be like a normal person
- 44:21
in the world
- 44:23
>> like what a normal person would Yeah.
- 44:24
Oh, that's a good note.
- 44:25
>> And then you do it and you still like
- 44:27
didn't like check those back.
- 44:28
>> Did you have fun?
- 44:29
>> Yeah.
- 44:37
I want to say something about what
- 44:40
watching you ride the wave that is SNL
- 44:43
because it is a series of waves. What do
- 44:45
you think has been the like the way that
- 44:48
you've surfed the last 23 years?
- 44:52
>> I think in the beginning I became
- 44:54
friendly to the process of it. Like I
- 44:57
became a a friendly useful like tool if
- 45:00
you will. So like all kinds of people
- 45:01
would like write for me because I was
- 45:04
able to deliver.
- 45:06
>> Nobody gave us this rule, but and I'm
- 45:08
sure you now tell people this,
- 45:10
>> but if I could go back and tell people
- 45:14
one thing, it would be try to do as well
- 45:17
as you can in anything you're given.
- 45:19
>> Y
- 45:20
>> that simple thing get gets people to
- 45:23
just cuz everyone's nervous.
- 45:25
>> Give me one word.
- 45:27
>> Yeah.
- 45:27
>> Or half a line. I love it.
- 45:31
>> Yeah. What have you changed about how
- 45:32
you interact with the job that how
- 45:34
you've made the system work for you?
- 45:36
>> Yeah. I don't let it just keep me out
- 45:39
anymore. It used to keep us out.
- 45:41
>> Well, Keen and I just from being and I
- 45:43
have seen
- 45:44
>> It's one of my favorite stories ever of
- 45:46
us doing that bit.
- 45:47
>> Please tell us. Okay, let's tell this
- 45:49
story. I I totally
- 45:50
>> fantastic. I need a drink. Let's take a
- 45:52
drink break.
- 45:53
>> Okay, so I'll start it. Kenan and I
- 45:55
Okay [laughter]
- 45:57
this was a different time before we had
- 45:59
children.
- 45:59
>> This was a different time before we had
- 46:01
children.
- 46:01
>> So, we would go out a lot, Kenan and I
- 46:03
and all of us would party a lot.
- 46:05
>> Yeah. We would hang out New York very
- 46:07
excited about being in New York.
- 46:08
>> And so, we there was a night of many
- 46:11
nights, but there was a particular night
- 46:13
where
- 46:14
>> I was out too late. Yes. Um
- 46:17
>> before I understood the schedule, too. I
- 46:19
was just like hanging out
- 46:21
>> because when I was still
- 46:23
>> still out there
- 46:24
>> and we were at a place called Bungalow
- 46:26
8.
- 46:27
>> Fantastic.
- 46:27
>> Shout out to those kind of
- 46:29
>> shout out to Rashidita.
- 46:31
>> Shout out to Rashidita. Look, Rashidita.
- 46:33
Rashidita Jones turned always my
- 46:36
beautiful wife turned me on to so many
- 46:38
aspects of life.
- 46:39
>> Literally the greatest.
- 46:40
>> And she'd be like, "Hey, I'm hosting
- 46:42
this club thing." And I'd be like, "Oh
- 46:45
my god, what time? 1:00 a.m. Sounds
- 46:47
great." I mean, what the [ __ ]
- 46:48
>> We're there. [laughter]
- 46:50
>> And like it doesn't close like the other
- 46:52
places. Like it can kind of just stay
- 46:53
open.
- 46:54
>> When you walk in, it's like, oh, you
- 46:56
know,
- 46:57
>> we're in an Amazon rainforest [laughter]
- 47:00
and it's time to listen to music and
- 47:02
drinks and like
- 47:03
>> Yeah. And like ti lots of people. Yeah.
- 47:06
Lots of people in the building.
- 47:07
>> Um so, um we went to Bungalow 8 and I
- 47:11
was there and all of a sudden, guess who
- 47:12
comes in later than me is Kenan.
- 47:14
>> Yeah.
- 47:15
>> Kenan comes strolling in. strolling
- 47:17
>> and we had
- 47:18
>> we had a 6 a.m. call. I probably had a
- 47:21
6:00 a.m. You may be a little bit later
- 47:22
cuz ladies have like
- 47:24
>> it was first thing in the morning, but
- 47:25
>> we had to be up maybe 2 or 3 hours later
- 47:28
to play
- 47:30
>> the black ey peas. [laughter]
- 47:33
>> Fantastic.
- 47:34
>> I had to get in full,
- 47:36
>> you know, spray tan as a whole lot of
- 47:38
wiggage to be where I am. Heavy ass
- 47:41
dreads.
- 47:42
>> Heavy dreads. And it [laughter] was the
- 47:44
host was um John Heer.
- 47:46
>> Okay. Yeah.
- 47:47
>> Who did not stay out late that night.
- 47:49
>> No.
- 47:50
>> He was ready.
- 47:51
>> Yeah. He didn't have an issue at all.
- 47:53
But he's like Mormon, isn't he?
- 47:54
>> He's Mormon. So he just chilled.
- 47:56
>> Yeah. He chilled. He was a responsible.
- 47:57
>> He responsible and he chilled. And he
- 47:59
didn't even have caffeine. That's how
- 48:01
>> No. And back then those shoots used to
- 48:04
be 10,000 miles away.
- 48:06
>> I had not slept. You had not slept. Who
- 48:08
else was [clears throat] in it? Who was
- 48:09
that?
- 48:10
>> I want to say Forte.
- 48:11
>> Forte.
- 48:12
I just remember Forte like laying on a
- 48:15
very hard floor.
- 48:17
>> We were so hung over
- 48:19
>> face down
- 48:20
>> and could not move or talk and literally
- 48:24
they stopped traffic in the middle of a
- 48:26
New Jersey highway.
- 48:27
>> Yeah. for us to pretend to be the black
- 48:28
eyed pe like and rolling
- 48:30
>> at like 10 9 a.m. like rush hour and
- 48:33
people were just like what is happen
- 48:36
[laughter]
- 48:36
you had to be
- 48:37
>> [ __ ] with my heart and we had to dance
- 48:40
and Kenan was doing a bit that I will
- 48:42
never forget which is he was taking
- 48:44
phone calls from his past self
- 48:48
>> pretending to tell him to go home.
- 48:50
>> Yes. [laughter] Like you are being
- 48:52
unkind to yourself sir.
- 48:54
>> Kenan. This is Kenan. You got to go
- 48:55
home.
- 48:56
>> Yeah. What are you doing, man? You know,
- 48:59
you know you have to get up early. This
- 49:00
is not good. Put it down.
- 49:02
>> When you started, you you mentioned this
- 49:04
earlier. You were you and Jo were what
- 49:06
what are your memories of being of you
- 49:08
and Jo sharing an office?
- 49:09
>> It was the best because we were so
- 49:11
dynamically different in my opinion, you
- 49:14
know, like him coming from like Harvard
- 49:16
and Staten Island and like me coming
- 49:18
from like the south side of Atlanta kind
- 49:20
of thing. And like I didn't finish I
- 49:22
went to Santa Monica City College, you
- 49:24
know, so I didn't even really get too
- 49:26
far down the like college college like
- 49:28
sharpness road, [laughter]
- 49:30
you know? So like I was still like high
- 49:32
school educated in my opinion. I learned
- 49:34
a lot from him. We shared an office for
- 49:35
eight years.
- 49:36
>> Yeah.
- 49:37
>> Yeah. Because other offices would open
- 49:40
up but like we enjoyed that office so
- 49:42
much and like I think being together so
- 49:44
much and then scared straight was born
- 49:45
from that you know kind of stuff and
- 49:47
like
- 49:48
>> talk about full circle Kenan like
- 49:50
You you you see you're a fan of Eddie,
- 49:53
you write Scared Straight forget about
- 49:56
it Colin and then you do it with him at
- 49:58
the 50th. What did
- 49:59
>> Shout out to those guys like shout out
- 50:01
to people that are like that. Colin and
- 50:03
Chay are both like that and I shouted
- 50:05
Chay out so much because a lot of my
- 50:07
favorite stuff that is like very silly
- 50:10
and black and really really smart, you
- 50:13
know, is coming from him sharply like
- 50:16
Black Jeopardy and stuff like that. And
- 50:18
uh what when you and Eddie did it for
- 50:20
the 50th, what what what do you
- 50:23
remember? But what was the little
- 50:24
special twinkly magic moment? And when
- 50:27
you did that, what did it feel like?
- 50:28
>> So at the 40th was the night before was
- 50:31
the first time I met Eddie, you know
- 50:33
what I mean? And he just came to that
- 50:34
like toast to Lauren in the rainbow
- 50:36
room. So everything was like very New
- 50:38
York magical cuz he's like in the sky
- 50:40
and he emerged from a separate elevator
- 50:42
from everybody [laughter] else. And I'm
- 50:43
like, of course,
- 50:44
>> he has his, you know, specific way.
- 50:47
>> And like I was like, that's really cool.
- 50:49
I couldn't contain myself. And he
- 50:51
recognized,
- 50:52
>> you know what I mean? He was like, hey
- 50:54
man, like [clears throat]
- 50:55
I was like, oh my god, this is amazing.
- 50:58
>> So fast forward to the 50th. Colin
- 51:01
suggest we do a scared straight and put
- 51:03
him in it. You know, he had hosted which
- 51:05
was the greatest show ever when you
- 51:07
know, he hosted for Christmas time and
- 51:08
then back to Chay put me in that
- 51:11
monologue with him. Chris Rock Tracy and
- 51:13
Dave Chappelle like what an epic
- 51:15
picture. I'll keep it for forever. So at
- 51:18
the 50th they were talking about doing a
- 51:20
scarce. I'm like I wasn't even planning
- 51:22
on I didn't know what to do because
- 51:24
everything was so last minute you know
- 51:25
what I mean?
- 51:26
>> So I just heard that they wanted to do
- 51:28
this and I'm like they're down to do
- 51:30
this. I couldn't believe it. Like Eddie
- 51:32
and the GOAT Will Frell like bro like
- 51:35
Will Frell is the greatest cast member
- 51:36
we've had
- 51:37
>> ever I think in many people's opinion.
- 51:40
>> Yeah. So for them to be in my little
- 51:43
baby sketch was unreal. [clears throat]
- 51:46
>> That's so cool.
- 51:47
>> Unreal.
- 51:48
>> Yeah.
- 51:48
>> I felt that. I felt like I felt like you
- 51:51
were a peer and a fan at the same time
- 51:53
with them cuz you are a peer to them.
- 51:56
And thank you.
- 51:57
>> You realizing that moment was special is
- 51:59
is kind of like what going back to our
- 52:01
theme which is you were really present
- 52:03
in the moment. And the other thing I'm
- 52:04
just going to say about you, Ken.
- 52:05
>> I just eat too much humble pie to to
- 52:08
like not feel like a little kid looking
- 52:10
at his hero kind of thing.
- 52:12
>> Well, that's what I mean is, you know,
- 52:14
okay, do you ever watch the show Alone?
- 52:16
I talk about it all the time here, but
- 52:17
it's a um Okay, Alone is a is a um it's
- 52:21
kind of like an adventure reality show.
- 52:23
It's about people who are dropped off in
- 52:25
the wilderness. They have to survive by
- 52:26
themselves and whoever stays the longest
- 52:28
alone and they all have to hunt and fish
- 52:30
and gather and all this stuff. But what
- 52:33
you realize is the people that last the
- 52:36
longest
- 52:37
are not the ones that celebrate the
- 52:40
hardest and they're not the ones that
- 52:42
take the losses so personally. They stay
- 52:44
somewhat relatively even.
- 52:46
>> Yeah.
- 52:47
>> You bag a moose week one,
- 52:49
>> you're not going to bag it every week,
- 52:50
>> right?
- 52:51
>> You your shelter falls down, it doesn't
- 52:54
mean because you're a jerk and bad
- 52:55
things happen to you. Like you don't
- 52:57
internalize. And I get that from you.
- 52:59
you ride those highs and lows. Do you
- 53:01
think that that's true about yourself?
- 53:03
>> And have you always been that way?
- 53:05
>> Yeah. And I think I kind of focus on
- 53:08
that a little bit. You know what I mean?
- 53:10
Just to make sure that I don't allow
- 53:13
things to just carry me away. You know
- 53:15
what I mean? Like there's so much to be
- 53:17
emotional about outside of the business.
- 53:19
Like the world is in like full chaos and
- 53:23
has been my whole life. I feel like, you
- 53:25
know, there's always been some sort of
- 53:26
representation of a a bad guy, if you
- 53:29
will, or a bad, you know, situation kind
- 53:32
of stuff.
- 53:33
>> And then the more you learn about the
- 53:35
world, it's like,
- 53:37
>> how dare I even be bothered or upset
- 53:41
about, you know, such minuscule things
- 53:43
as a miscomplishment in my career kind
- 53:46
of thing, you know? So,
- 53:48
>> I've always kind of just been like,
- 53:50
cool. Like, if something great happens,
- 53:51
great. something bad happens, it's like,
- 53:53
"All right, pick up the pieces and like
- 53:54
let's keep it pushing kind of thing
- 53:56
because
- 53:57
>> you can dwell on it if you want and let
- 53:58
it like suck you down the little
- 54:00
whirlpool and stuff like that." But
- 54:02
>> then where would we be and where would
- 54:04
all the people that depend on me be kind
- 54:06
of thing if I allow the darkness to
- 54:09
creep in, you know?
- 54:11
>> But but it's a it's like a it's like a
- 54:13
life lesson of like can you be satisfi
- 54:16
sat like the life lesson of can you be
- 54:19
satisfied?
- 54:20
>> Yeah. is really, you know, that
- 54:22
yearning.
- 54:23
>> I can easily be sadly. Yeah.
- 54:26
>> I I I know the things I like
- 54:28
>> and I'm happy when they're around.
- 54:30
>> When you speak about I like, you know,
- 54:31
what you like. I feel like you love
- 54:35
working with Maya. Oh,
- 54:36
>> she's the greatest.
- 54:37
>> And she loves working with you.
- 54:39
>> Maya is just such I I never met such a
- 54:42
dynamic force of nature, you know what I
- 54:45
mean? just in pedigree and talent and
- 54:49
you know the kind of person she is, the
- 54:52
kindness she is like she's very
- 54:54
maternal. You are as well. Like all four
- 54:56
of my like original DR and Tina like my
- 55:00
four horsemen horse lady sisters
- 55:03
>> are giant forces of nature you know and
- 55:06
it started with Maya and like I'm deeply
- 55:09
indebted to her for kind of pulling me
- 55:11
out of the fog of Tuesday night and
- 55:13
getting something done in my first week
- 55:16
>> and constantly kind of being that source
- 55:18
of just funny combo or wonderful
- 55:22
performer to perform things with. I
- 55:24
mean, you guys are like instant family.
- 55:25
Like, you were a family in another life.
- 55:27
You immediately met each other and you
- 55:28
were like, "Oh,
- 55:30
>> you play the same way I play."
- 55:32
>> Yeah. And also, just I'm obsessed with
- 55:34
Songbergs, you know what I mean? It's an
- 55:36
amazing talent to sit next to and just
- 55:39
listen to her just take off on some sort
- 55:42
of like musical number or something like
- 55:44
while she's just sitting there. And it's
- 55:45
like, do y'all hear this? Like
- 55:48
>> I mean I always said that she would be
- 55:50
better than most of the professional
- 55:51
singers that came% and you too Kenan I
- 55:54
try but like
- 55:56
>> man what a what a cool thing to kind of
- 55:59
like be in close to kind of thing and
- 56:01
like I just I love it. So
- 56:03
>> the same with like you know even you
- 56:05
know up to the current cast and like
- 56:07
everyone in between and I just love our
- 56:09
family so much
- 56:10
>> that I like being close to it and like
- 56:13
it's just I'm not afraid of how it will
- 56:15
be when I leave. is just I would much
- 56:17
rather just stay, you know,
- 56:20
>> why why not? Who's writing this brew
- 56:22
book?
- 56:23
>> Yeah, exactly right.
- 56:24
>> Like I'm up to 23 years.
- 56:26
>> I know.
- 56:27
>> Possibly starting 24 or whatever.
- 56:29
>> Possibly,
- 56:30
>> you know, like
- 56:30
>> it's happening.
- 56:32
>> I mean, yeah, I know. You're exactly
- 56:33
right. What are what are the rules? And
- 56:35
and so so we do this thing in the in the
- 56:37
show where we talk to somebody, we get a
- 56:39
question. So we talk to Maya.
- 56:40
>> Oh my god, how wonderful. What does she
- 56:43
say?
- 56:44
>> She loves you so much. God bless her,
- 56:46
man. I love her, too.
- 56:47
>> And we laugh so hard at how dumb and how
- 56:51
fun the stupid [ __ ] you guys have done.
- 56:54
>> It's the best.
- 56:54
>> It's the best. And we talked about TT
- 56:57
and Mario, which you know is my
- 56:59
favorite. It was just the couple that is
- 57:00
>> put your hands in roller skates
- 57:02
>> and
- 57:03
>> flip you upside down and then wheel you
- 57:05
into the kitchen.
- 57:06
>> Put whipped cream on your business.
- 57:08
[laughter]
- 57:10
>> I want you to know I was singing that on
- 57:12
the way here. Put whipped cream on your
- 57:14
business. What a gorgeous lyric.
- 57:16
>> God bless censorship. If it wasn't for
- 57:18
censorship, you're so right. Word play
- 57:20
would be so funny.
- 57:22
>> The guardrails make it way funnier. And
- 57:24
you can't say anything dirty, so you
- 57:25
have to say put whipped cream on your
- 57:27
business. [laughter]
- 57:29
>> But Maya was talking like and and also I
- 57:32
just want to like say thank you again.
- 57:34
And I know I've thanked you many times
- 57:35
in my life, but you and Maya did one of
- 57:38
the most tender, wonderful, like funny,
- 57:41
and beautiful things for me in my life
- 57:42
that when I rushed from set to have my
- 57:45
kid
- 57:46
>> Yeah.
- 57:46
>> and my first son, Archie, and he was in
- 57:48
my arms and I was watching the show that
- 57:50
the day before I was rehearsing,
- 57:53
which talk about like feeling like
- 57:55
you're in a crazy alternate reality. You
- 57:59
guys sang to me from Update, you and
- 58:01
Maya, and with the Titi and Mario flare,
- 58:05
but not as filthy cuz there were
- 58:07
children present,
- 58:08
>> of course.
- 58:08
>> Yeah.
- 58:09
>> Yeah.
- 58:10
>> And I couldn't have chosen two better
- 58:13
people to have that feeling from. And it
- 58:16
was so,
- 58:17
>> it was such a wonderful, beautiful. I
- 58:19
really treasure it, Keenan.
- 58:20
>> I'm so glad because it felt that way in
- 58:24
the moment. And I was still so young,
- 58:26
you know? I was just honored to be asked
- 58:29
to be a part of a like a this is such a
- 58:31
moment for you. You're like a brand new
- 58:32
mom and we watched you be pregnant the
- 58:35
whole time [laughter]
- 58:36
>> and we thought you were going to troop
- 58:38
out the show. Like it was a super
- 58:39
surprise.
- 58:40
>> The plan,
- 58:40
>> you know what I mean?
- 58:42
>> So it was like showing up on Saturday
- 58:44
and it was like hearing the news like
- 58:45
Amy won't be with us.
- 58:47
>> There was like all hands on deck kind of
- 58:49
energy because you're such a pivotal
- 58:51
part of the show. So you not being there
- 58:54
was just like there's such a gap. we
- 58:55
have to acknowledge this in some sort of
- 58:58
way and yeah to be asked to do it was
- 59:00
like this is cool like this is what
- 59:03
makes this place you know an epic kind
- 59:06
of place and I felt very grateful to be
- 59:09
involved in any sort of like moment like
- 59:12
that you know it's very special man
- 59:14
>> Maya's question to you was
- 59:17
it was basically more of like a
- 59:20
statement which is you're a fully formed
- 59:23
little Keenan felt like he kind of came
- 59:25
out fully formed. And I think little
- 59:27
Maya too, the same thing. I think you
- 59:29
guys saw that in each other. [snorts]
- 59:31
>> And um
- 59:33
>> I think her question was really like, do
- 59:36
you think that's true? And I do think we
- 59:37
kind of talked about like do you think
- 59:38
you knew from the very earliest age what
- 59:40
you wanted to do
- 59:41
>> in some sort of some sort of way? And
- 59:44
definitely in that direction, you know
- 59:46
what I mean? Of like
- 59:47
>> I don't know if sports is going to be
- 59:49
it. Like I'm like I enjoyed playing
- 59:51
sports, but I don't I didn't think I was
- 59:52
going to be Bo Jackson. You know what
- 59:54
I'm saying?
- 59:55
>> You were Bo Jackson.
- 59:57
>> So like yeah, I think I had an affinity
- 59:59
towards
- 1:00:01
>> my path kind of and I always felt like
- 1:00:03
it had already been carved in some sort
- 1:00:05
of way. You know what I mean? Like it
- 1:00:06
was just,
- 1:00:07
>> you know, big destiny believer that
- 1:00:09
could have something to do with like
- 1:00:10
faith and growing up in church and stuff
- 1:00:11
like that.
- 1:00:12
>> But
- 1:00:13
>> it just felt that way. And then I kept
- 1:00:15
getting reminded of those things when
- 1:00:17
those kids mitty kind of things would
- 1:00:18
happen along the way and I was just
- 1:00:20
like, "All right, I think I should just
- 1:00:21
give over to the universe and just stay
- 1:00:24
positive and stay ready."
- 1:00:25
>> Yeah.
- 1:00:26
>> Yeah.
- 1:00:26
>> Well, um, what's where are you going?
- 1:00:29
>> I'm just going to my daughter's little
- 1:00:31
like summer play.
- 1:00:32
>> Oh god. You're going You're just going
- 1:00:34
to your daughter?
- 1:00:35
>> Literally across the street.
- 1:00:36
>> Okay. But what time is the plan?
- 1:00:38
>> Well, they're allowing the parents in at
- 1:00:40
1:35.
- 1:00:41
>> Oh my god. We have to get you out of
- 1:00:42
here. Okay. So, we cannot It's 1:30.
- 1:00:44
>> Yeah.
- 1:00:45
>> So, let's go. I got to ask you one
- 1:00:47
question. I'm going to put your glasses
- 1:00:48
on. Yeah.
- 1:00:48
>> What are you listening to right now?
- 1:00:50
What are you What's making you laugh?
- 1:00:52
>> Yeah. I love that you're going to your
- 1:00:54
daughter's play. What is she ask the
- 1:00:55
best?
- 1:00:56
>> What is she doing? What's
- 1:00:57
>> I want to say. It's just their like
- 1:00:59
sixth grade, I think, end of school.
- 1:01:02
>> Does she want to be a performer thing?
- 1:01:04
>> Does any of them
- 1:01:05
>> some Yeah, she's better at sports kind
- 1:01:08
of thing. She's a little introverted,
- 1:01:10
>> but I see it in her, you know, and she
- 1:01:12
has her moments where she just hams it
- 1:01:14
up, you know, kind of thing.
- 1:01:17
>> But what are you laughing at right now?
- 1:01:19
What's making you laugh?
- 1:01:19
>> I'm laughing at a lot of pock I'm
- 1:01:21
watching my friends work, you know, like
- 1:01:24
whoever is putting out like new work
- 1:01:26
kind of thing, you know? I just
- 1:01:28
>> like I wasn't really aware of Sarah's
- 1:01:30
like standup presence and I watched that
- 1:01:32
special
- 1:01:32
>> that special. So we
- 1:01:34
>> she's a force.
- 1:01:36
>> We we we had her on. She is. That
- 1:01:38
special is the craziest [ __ ] I've ever
- 1:01:40
seen.
- 1:01:40
>> It's the craziest. And I'm like, thank
- 1:01:42
God because who else can do it, you
- 1:01:44
know, kind of. So I'm like, well, she's
- 1:01:46
here for a reason. And like, buckle up
- 1:01:48
everybody because when she decides to
- 1:01:50
like
- 1:01:50
>> so funny on here,
- 1:01:51
>> let the train loose, it's gone. Like it
- 1:01:53
was great. Yeah, she's
- 1:01:55
>> fantastic. And like that's one of the
- 1:01:57
newer things that I caught on to
- 1:01:58
recently. But like,
- 1:02:00
>> you know, any and all of our friends
- 1:02:01
that are doing stuff, you know, like
- 1:02:03
Leslie Jones's special was fantastic.
- 1:02:05
Like Finesse is still out there killing.
- 1:02:07
Finess is out there with Tisha Campbell
- 1:02:09
which is why he got Tisha Campbell doing
- 1:02:11
stand up and it's really funny.
- 1:02:13
>> Yes.
- 1:02:14
>> So like yeah I'm just you know
- 1:02:15
celebrating all of our friends.
- 1:02:17
>> Kenan, you always do. You've always been
- 1:02:19
like laughing with us along the way and
- 1:02:23
always like reminding us that like we we
- 1:02:25
won the lottery for getting to do what
- 1:02:27
we get to do. A lot of the time it is
- 1:02:31
really a nice reminder and a pleasure to
- 1:02:34
like take a look around, you know, and
- 1:02:36
be reminded of the reach when we're like
- 1:02:38
flicking through the channels or like
- 1:02:40
something pops up in the zeitgeist like
- 1:02:42
thank you for Broad City, you know, and
- 1:02:44
like for Paige and Hannah, you know what
- 1:02:46
I mean? Like just supporting like new
- 1:02:48
people along the way and like
- 1:02:50
>> constantly just keeping the vibe alive,
- 1:02:52
you know what I mean? Of fishing for fun
- 1:02:54
times. Thank you for always shouting out
- 1:02:57
all us women, too. You always do that
- 1:02:58
and we love you for it.
- 1:02:59
>> It's unbelievable and it's undeniable.
- 1:03:02
>> You can put your glasses back on for
- 1:03:03
this last thing. And we're we're I mean
- 1:03:06
I love that you're going to your
- 1:03:07
daughter's play.
- 1:03:08
>> Yeah. It's my sweetheart.
- 1:03:09
>> Yeah.
- 1:03:10
>> Yeah.
- 1:03:11
>> I'm I'm so excited. And my other one had
- 1:03:13
field day
- 1:03:14
>> and her country to represent was
- 1:03:16
Austria. So, she had to learn about
- 1:03:17
Austria. And listening to a
- 1:03:20
seven-year-old talk about Austria is
- 1:03:22
adorable. Oh, and I'm seeing the faces
- 1:03:24
of these children and they are
- 1:03:26
>> insanely sweet and cute.
- 1:03:28
>> God bless them.
- 1:03:29
>> And they are so lucky to have you as
- 1:03:30
their dad. And now that you're a
- 1:03:32
grandpa, we're so lucky to have you as a
- 1:03:33
grandpa.
- 1:03:34
>> Yeah. And hopefully I'll be a great
- 1:03:35
great before I'm out of here like Morgan
- 1:03:37
Freeman, you know.
- 1:03:38
>> Yeah. And I'm going to meet you on the
- 1:03:39
red carpet and have also have sunglasses
- 1:03:41
on and and weirdly a se like a dog. I
- 1:03:44
>> want to start bringing a backup pair for
- 1:03:46
people that I like. And it was like,
- 1:03:48
"All right, just make sure."
- 1:03:51
>> We'll get you some,
- 1:03:51
>> Kenan. We're so lucky to have you. I'm
- 1:03:53
so lucky to know you and it's so good to
- 1:03:55
see you.
- 1:03:55
>> Same.
- 1:03:56
>> Love you. Thank you for doing this.
- 1:03:57
>> Thank you so much. My pleasure. Miss you
- 1:03:59
and so happy to see you today.
- 1:04:01
>> Yeah. Same.
- 1:04:03
>> Thank you so much, Kenan Thompson. You
- 1:04:05
are the best. You're the best, most
- 1:04:07
wonderful person and so hilarious. And
- 1:04:09
I'm so lucky to know you and thank you
- 1:04:10
for doing this. And you know, in these
- 1:04:13
polar plunges, we usually kind of dig
- 1:04:14
deeper into something that we talked
- 1:04:16
about, but I just want to take a minute
- 1:04:18
to just dig a little bit deeper into the
- 1:04:20
fact that Kenan's characters on SNL 23
- 1:04:23
years in still kind of remain the
- 1:04:26
characters that I quote on a weekly
- 1:04:29
basis. Whether it is TT and Mario
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saying, "I'm going to put whipped cream
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on your business." Or it's uh Jean Kjan,
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the French stand-up comedian who says
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Zutures when he does Update. or DJ
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Dynasty Handbag. Um, a a a character
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that he did on a sketch called Deep
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House Dish, which was kind of like a
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Euro MTV show. And [laughter]
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written by the great James Anderson and
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and Kenan's character used to say
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bouquet instead of okay. [laughter]
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And I say bouquet um or bouquet or
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bouquet or whatever, however he said it.
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I say it all the time. I guess my point
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is
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Kenan is
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like woven into the fabric of that show
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and my experience in that show in a way
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that's that's like very very very
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special to me and is kind of stuck in my
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brain. So um my plunge today is to
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encourage you to keep watching his stuff
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past, present and future and to stay in
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the present like Kenan does too.
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Thank you for listening to uh this
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podcast called Good Hang with Amy Polar.
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Okay bye.
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You've been listening to Good Hang. The
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executive producers for this show are
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Bill Simmons, Jenna [music] Weiss
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Berman, and me, Amy Polar. The show is
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produced by The Ringer and Paperkite.
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For The Ringer, production by Jack
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Wilson, Cat Spalain, Kaia [music]
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McMullen, Alia Xeneres, Bridget
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Gearlings, Paige Garberini, Belle Roman,
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and Drew Vanstein Bergen. [music] for
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Paperkite production by Sam Green, Joel
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Levelvel, and Jenna Weiss Berman.
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Original music by Amy Miles.
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