Transcript: Jennifer Lawrence on Good Hang with Amy Poehler

Hello everyone. Welcome to another

episode of Good Hang. Very excited about

our guest today, Jennifer Lawrence. Jen

and I, we have a good time and we laugh

a lot in this episode and we talk about

a lot of great things. Her incredible

career, the surprising parts of

Parenthood, um her long torso, my short

legs, um and we do what we always like

to do here in Good Hang. We sing along

to Shaniah Twain. But before we get

started, we want to talk to somebody who

knows our guest, who can speak well

behind her back and give me a question

to ask this guest. And we are joined by

Justine Shuraki. Justine is a producer.

She runs Excellent Cadaavver, the

production company that's produced uh

films like Causeway and Die My Love. And

uh her and Jen have been friends

forever. So Justine, are you there?

Let's get started.

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>> Hey girl.

>> Hi. I'm really happy to talk to you

today because I mean I think the stuff

that you guys have done together is

really really special but also you just

shared a long history together as people

in the world and friends.

>> Well that's very generous of you to say

and obviously we've been enormous fans

for hundred years. So it's like such an

honor to talk to you and I'm like

pinching myself and she is too that

she's coming on the podcast. So

>> oh my god she's so good at podcasts. I

mean she's so good at talking.

>> That's that's her [ __ ] for sure.

Now, um, before we start talking about

Jennifer, I do want to talk about you.

Where did you grow up?

>> I grew up in Wilmington, Delaware.

>> I actually think we have Aubrey Plaza in

common. And I grew up with Aubrey and

did community theater with her.

>> You did your childhood? Yes. Yes.

>> You guys went to the same school? Like

you were in the same town? Yeah,

>> we went to the same elementary school

and we both um were in community theater

at the Wilmington Drama League, an

esteemed venue for like most of our most

of our childhood.

>> Oh my gosh. What was Baby Plaza like?

>> Exactly the same as Adult Plaza.

>> Yeah.

>> Like hasn't changed a bit.

>> The greatest. The greatest.

>> That's so what a small world. And so the

two of you are like there doing shows

and and and performing and then where

where does that take you after you

graduate?

>> I didn't really know where I would fit

in film and so I you know took a bunch

of odd jobs and and explored and during

that period I met Jen.

>> And what was your first impression of

her when you met? My first impression of

Jen was that she was a wild beast.

>> Mhm.

>> And also that she had

because Jen didn't have like a

traditional

education, she also swerved a lot of the

like social anxiety that I think a lot

of people our age had been plagued with.

So Jen had this like abandon and lack of

self-consciousness that was really

unfamiliar to all of our friends. So, we

were sort of like wideeyed by her. And I

think that that's something that she

still possesses all these years later.

It's something that she hasn't outgrown

or, you know, she's she's never

Yeah. She's she has not become jaded by

her totally surreal lifestyle.

>> So, how do you go from two young women

like sitting on a couch in a small LA

apartment to running this big company

and making these big movies? Like, how

does that work?

>> Oh, man. I mean, it's it's a loaded

question. I think that we

met as young women and obviously

developed our taste together. We were

discovering film together. Uh everything

from Wong Car y to Sex in the City, you

know, like it ran the gamut. And I also

think that we

became best friends. And so

what we we care about similar things.

We're moved by similar things. we have

similar reactions to life and what's

happening in the world and that really

is the basis for our decision-m around

what we take on as producers. So, I

think the obviously like extraordinary

happen stance of Jen, Jen's young

success and her being in this incredible

position to get things made and then Jen

and I continuing to like care for our

relationship and continuing to grow

together. And so I think the Odyssey has

involved a ton of hard work and care and

um

all the things you would imagine and

also us uh

continuing to grow and being excited to

elevate each other.

>> And I also I loved Causeway.

>> Thank you.

>> Such a beautiful movie. I want to talk

to Jenna about it. I just it's just a

great great movie. beautiful director,

Laya.

>> Oh, we love Y Laya.

>> Brian is so Brian Tyrie Henry is so

good. Jen is so convincing as the

character that she plays, like a a

physically and kind of spiritually

wounded vet who's returning home. It's

so good. Such a good movie.

>> It's it's it's always so nice to see Jen

in those roles where the the kind of

like stripped back, quieter performances

where it's like so much of it is just

happening in her eyes. You know,

>> I don't I mean I don't I don't know how

to act like that. Like I mean we were

kind of talking about we were talking

about interviewing her and we were like

and you know it's hard not to be like

you're so good at acting.

>> Well, she is so good at acting.

>> She she's she's good. That's pretty

[ __ ] good.

>> Like you just are there times when

you're watching her and you're like,

damn, she's really good at acting.

>> Every time. Every time. Like I I I've

sat on probably 11 sets with Jen and

every time my mind is just like blowing

out of my face. I'm like still like it

does not get old. She just levels up

every time.

>> Mhm. You know her really well. You know,

sometimes we we ask people to talk well

behind our guest back and they've worked

with them or they kind of know them. But

you have you know her really really

well. um you've known her for a really

long time and you're deep

partners in in in work and you're loving

friends in life and what do you think I

should ask her today? Um what do you

want to know about, hear about, or what

do you think she'd want to talk about or

a story she'd want to tell? Oh man, I

mean with Jen, it's funny because she is

so um like transparent in these spaces.

Like I don't think that she's somebody

who where there are like a ton of

subjects that are off limits.

>> Well, it's okay. This is really helpful

because I've been prepping for the

interview and I don't want to put her in

an uncomfortable position ever to ask

her something she doesn't want to talk

about, but she also feels really um well

aware of what she feels comfortable

talking about. I guess. Um

>> I think she is and I think she'll also

like tell you like I think that she I

think like she'll pivot if she needs to.

>> You never have to answer a question if

you don't want to answer. And it is and

it's a magic trick to not answer it. And

people often forget that what question

they asked.

>> I mean this isn't a good thing to tell a

guest. Probably this is probably not a

good thing to get. But anyway, do you

have It doesn't have to be a heavy

question. It can be something small.

anything that you think we should ask

her today?

>> I mean gosh, like maybe because she's in

a position of constantly being asked

questions and she is never in charge of

what is being asked. Like maybe it's

asking her like what would you like to

talk more about that you don't feel

>> Whoa, that's a good friend opportunity

to declare, you know, maybe maybe she

has a big announcement

>> or just something that she'd like to

like reflect on.

>> You know what? That's a really good

friend because what you're basically

saying is just check in with her and see

if there's anything else she wants to

talk about.

>> Yeah,

>> it's so true.

>> What she like is tired of talking about,

you know, that too.

>> Yeah.

>> What are what do you want? It's

basically like you're at the TSA and

it's like what do you want to declare?

>> Yeah.

>> And what and what perishables would you

like to get rid of?

>> Totally.

>> Yeah. Well, no, but thank you so much

and um I will give your best to Aubrey

Plaza. I like picturing you guys being

weird together in Wilmington.

>> Yeah, that's that's that's the right

picture.

>> Justine, thank you so much for your

time. Really appreciate it.

>> Thank you. Thank you for having me. Have

a question, Jen.

>> All right. Nice talking to you.

>> I have to watch. All right. See you

later.

>> Okay. Take care. Bye.

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>> Jen,

>> hi. My voice was so deep.

>> Hi.

>> Hi.

I'm very excited that you're here.

>> I'm so excited to be here. I am a

really, really huge fan.

>> Oh, come on.

>> I am.

>> Say more.

>> No, I'm obviously being sarcastic.

>> Well, I was worried about what to wear

today cuz your style is so dope.

>> Thank you.

>> You have great style.

>> Oh my god, that's the only thing you

need to say to me ever.

>> And what is your I want to know how do

you pick clothes? What is your

relationship to clothes?

>> Okay, thank you so much. um would love

to talk about this. I'll just

>> because I'm fascinated because I'm

struggling with mine.

>> Um I Well, I I have a I have very

opinionated friends. One in particular,

very opinionated friends. And we clear

out we I do I do a lot of closet

cleanouts. I think living in New York

helps with that.

>> I don't have a lot of excess stuff that

confuses me.

>> I have things that I really like.

>> Do you think about Do you plan your

outfits for the I mean, obviously with

press it's different. I mean,

>> plan your outfits for the week. I do it

like mentally. I like start kind of

planning something and I I take my kid

to school and I know that I'm going to

get photographed, right?

>> So, I I do kind of do like a mental

>> like

>> like what do I how do I want to present

today?

>> No.

>> NO.

>> Cuz cuz the answer is always the same.

Today I want to present as like

effortless but you know like

>> this girl, how did she get so what I put

on? Um, and you know what else is really

important to remember?

>> Tell me.

>> You can write it down.

>> I'm ready.

>> Big goes with big.

>> Okay. This is

>> And if it's going if it's going to be if

it's No, but if it's going to be if it's

going to be tight, if if you're going to

have a baggie and a tight, you cannot

ever have tight on the bottom, baggy on

the top, or you'll look like a lamp. You

can have baggy on the bottom and tight

on the top, but you cannot do the other

way around.

>> I'll tell you something about baggy on

the bottom. I wore baggy on the bottom

for you today. You did.

>> Yeah. I'll show you later. I I have

baggy pants.

>> Um I'm so short. It like It's tough.

>> Yeah.

>> It's tough. It's tough to go baggy on

the bottom. But

>> I have short legs but a really long

torso.

>> Yeah. And big thick meaty arms.

>> So, okay. So, long torso. I see. Then

that silhouette. You know your

silhouette.

>> I guess.

>> Yeah. And it's I mean

>> you got great style.

>> Knowing is not loving.

>> Dude, you got great style. I mean I and

I and and like you like I'm always just

looking to see how women are dressing

like not not like just truly like how do

we

>> not just the style.

>> I try to take mental notes.

>> Yeah.

>> When I see something I

>> And when I actually feel comfortable, it

feels like such a win to wear something

that you feel like you look good in and

you also feel good in. It's like a hard

thing.

>> Yeah. feel like you're like representing

yourself accurately.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Or the the worst thing is

like when you're like I think I nailed

it and you see the picture

>> years later. Not even years later. Oh my

god.

>> You're like I remember feeling really

good.

>> Yeah. I had that recently cuz I was

postpartum but I was like

>> but I but I had like in my with my

second I had like bad postpartum. So

like I wasn't eating. So I felt really

skinny,

>> right?

>> But I wasn't.

>> But inside you felt

>> I was like strapless. let's do this. And

my baby was like 3 weeks old.

>> I mean, you like a lot of people like

were working through a lot of your

pregnancies. And that's also a weird

thing, too, because you're like your

your body is kind of you're like

bringing your body along for the ride.

>> Well, I was surprised more people

haven't talked about how skinny I am and

I'm my love because I'm pregnant

>> and I've been waiting and nobody said

it. Nobody's like, "Wow, you were

pregnant. You looked so skinny." Like,

I've never had an ompic rumor.

Not yet.

>> Not yet. Not yet, honey. Not yet. After

this. After this, we're going to take

this frame and we're going to squeeze it

down.

>> No, but it it is true. It's like

>> when you talk about how tall I am, like

>> um No, but I I I love what you've been

talking about. We're going to We have so

many things to talk about today. And I

just want to start by saying this is

what I've gleaned from meeting you

briefly and and feeling like I and I

know people who know you really well.

and just like

>> who?

>> Um I don't want to talk about that.

>> Um

>> they ask you

>> I'm best friends with your mom,

>> but you seem And I know it's going to

sound cheesy, but you like women.

>> Oh, yeah.

>> I know. But I do.

>> You do. And it shows.

>> Well, what do you think? I like love

white men.

>> Oh my god. If I could just be their

champion. They're so misunderstood.

You're always LIKE, "WAIT, THINK ABOUT

THE other side."

>> Not all men.

>> I have that tattooed.

>> No, but you know, you you And the reason

why to me it's not what you say. It's

not what one says, it's what they do.

And what you do all the time that I

think women do for each other is you

like you tell the real real behind

something like you you you talk about

like this was difficult or I'm thinking

about this or like you basically I think

when people stay mysterious

>> it's like a disservice to other women.

It's just like okay, you know, and you

do this thing that I really appreciate

that comes through which is you're

trying to be honest in real time and

trying to connect. And I think that's

>> I think that's what women do for other

women when they like women is the best

way to say it.

>> And so like today when I was thinking

about our interview, I was like I've

been really hearing you talk about how

you're trying to figure out the balance

between who do I want to be and what

like what parts of me do I want to give

out to the rest of the world and what

parts do I want to keep for myself which

feels like very like 30s

>> thing. Where are you at right now with

the balance of that? cuz you are so

famous and so real.

>> Uh oh, thank you.

>> And those two things are not always the

case,

>> right? I think that I when I do press, I

should do half than what normal people

do cuz I see my quotes and they like

they're insane. Like like Jennifer

Lawrence calls Courtney Kardashian

annoying. Like it's just too, you know.

>> Yeah, it's You're right. It's it's but

it I

>> it carries.

>> It carries. But it's well, first of all,

honestly, it's funny because it's you're

so funny.

>> Thank you.

>> And the third piece of the puzzle I'll

say is that you're very you feel like a

real person. You're very

>> ironic.

>> You've had your hand on my knee this

entire interview. It's And it's a long

stretch. You have a really long arm.

>> These pants are baggy. Really get in

there. Um, no. You're you're you're

famous and uh

>> erotic. erotic and real and deeply funny

like genuine

that's like coming from you. You're my

hero,

>> dude. But I I don't say that to

everybody. And you know, God is fair.

Like usually you don't have all those

things going at once. Usually you have

like very like important, interesting

actor who's like really good at acting

but maybe like you know maybe not the

funniest or you have a deeply funny

person who you wouldn't maybe believe in

a scene but you can do both.

>> Oh, thank you. believe I could do this

all day.

>> Okay. Well, I'm glazing as the kids like

to say.

>> What's Is that what they say?

>> You don't know. You glazing it. Well,

you've got teenagers.

>> What do you want to know about teens? I

know everything. You have two boys. I

have two boys.

>> I'm I You know, I missed my window to

really ask about six seven. I know that

it's like

>> it's over now.

>> I know. I missed the window. So, I I

don't even care anymore.

>> Actually, anything that we know is over,

>> right? By the time it gets to like your

mom.

>> Yeah. Like if the New York Times is

writing about it, it's it's been over.

Like no one's saying it anymore, but to

express

>> I really really liked boots

>> like like

>> like instead of period boots that but

that's from driveway

>> like I'm deceased boots like

>> yeah like like well like period end of

boots

>> right I feel like period's still around

period I feel

>> but you're supposed to replace it with

boots I think. Or that's just a gay

culture thing. I I don't actually know.

>> Yeah. Um we could I have a laptop. We

could look it up. We could spend the

entire

>> We could ask GPT.

>> Hello. Do we still say boots

>> young culture or just gay monoculture?

>> But asking for a friend.

>> But what is it? But you're in your

mid30s now.

>> You are I bet you're starting to feel

just just what you just expressed, which

is like, oh, old.

>> Oh, yeah.

>> But it's weird, right? Cuz you're you do

not feel old in your one does not really

feel old and they're 23.

>> My assistant is 23.

>> Okay. And so like I was doing like a

closet clean out yesterday and she was

like, "Oh my god, these are like real

skinny jeans."

Like they it was like a joke. She was

like, "Wow, they really do go in at the

bottom." And I'm like and we were

talking about Baby Mama. And I'm like,

"So funny. So funny." She was like,

"That was probably like the first comedy

I ever saw." And I was like, "How old

were you?" Seven.

>> You're a millennial.

>> Yeah.

>> Like midmillennial. Like

>> I don't know when it begins or ends, but

I was born in 90. You know, there's this

I feel like you would like this, but

we'll probably cut it. But there's this

book that I'm obsessed with called The

Fourth Turning, and it's all about how

80 years of history just keep repeating

itself, and we're kind of getting at the

end of the chaos era, which makes sense,

right, for the past like 20 whatever

years. But it's like each generation

throughout the years have come forward

to save

>> like, you know, different eras from

peril.

>> And the millennials are going to be the

heroes in the next um the next

>> Good luck. That sounds so hard. I'm so

tired.

>> But I believe in you and I wish you the

best of luck.

>> I was hoping that these kids would save

us.

>> It's you guys. And I feel like that

makes sense because we've really, you

know, I'm Gen X. We everybody like

really gave it to millennials and like

rolled their eyes at how well parented

they were, how blah blah blah we just

like thought that they were. And I think

they're going to really show us. They're

going to save things. So, chop chop.

>> Okay. All right. Thanks so much. Yeah,

it is funny when you see like what

gentle parenting is going to

>> Yeah.

>> do.

>> Yeah. But okay, speaking of gentle

parenting, this is a good segue.

>> I want to get to you go from I I'm blown

away by the story and I I'm sure you've

told it before, but I just need to know

the details, which is Louisville,

>> you're on a trip to New York with your

mom.

>> Yeah.

>> And a guy comes up on the street and

says,

>> "Can I take my card?" Yeah. Tell us the

story. Well, he took Okay, I will tell

you the story and I just I feel like I'm

lying. It's an amazing story.

>> Okay, but it's it's it is the truth, but

it's just one of those I'm like a woman,

so I feel like I have to like apologize

and that I'm lying.

>> Um I was in New York. I'm sorry.

For spring break and I was watching

street dancing in Union Square. Wow.

Never seen that before. Not a lot of

street dancing in Louisville. Mhm.

>> And um a man named Daniel who is a

talent scout came up to to me and my mom

and was like, "Can I take her picture?"

I'm like, "A model scout." And we were

just like, "Cool. Okay." You know, no

sense of danger.

>> Yeah.

>> Uh if he had like told us to meet him at

a hotel room, we 100% would have.

>> Totally.

>> Um and and then he took my picture on

the street. Joe Jonas actually wore the

picture on his t-shirt at a concert one

time and it was the first time I had

seen that picture since it happened. I

was like, "How did Joe Jonas get it?"

>> Um,

>> that's so weird.

>> Weird.

>> I've since seen it. Um, I don't really

know what to do with it. I'm not going

to like print it out. And so then I went

and started being interviewed by like

modeling agencies and what was becoming

like really apparent was like if you're

a model, you're a model. Like if you're

a model,

>> you're traveling, you're not acting,

like there's no commercials, there's no,

you know, so somewhere in those

interviews, I decided that I would only

sign with an agency that would also let

me act.

even though it hadn't been like an

actual

>> Yeah.

>> Did you know any actors growing up? Did

you think you would do that as a job?

>> No, never.

>> Wild.

>> But then once it kind of like was

brought up as a possibility I mean I did

I would always watch like Hillary Duff

like when I got home from school and

then I would like

>> do Hillary Duff like in the mirror. So

it kind of all came together.

>> But it is really random that someone

came up and was like, "Hey kid, throw

this pitch." And you like have the most

amazing fast ball. You're so good at

acting.

>> Oh, thank you.

>> And the fact that someone was like,

"Hey, do you want to go do this acting

thing?" I mean, I guess it was through

modeling, but like they were like, "Hey,

you." I mean, it's so wild. It's It's a

needle in a hay stack kind of. Do you

think you would have pursued it if that

didn't happen?

>> I don't think so. I don't think I would

have been aware that that was possible.

Although, like being in the big city, I

was like, "Oh, I want to live in a I

want to live here. I want to live."

>> Yeah. Like you know when you look back

at your life sometimes and you see like

Christmas cards where people say like

>> you know hope you make it to New York

someday and you think like did you ever

feel like you had that version of like I

want to get out of Louisville. I want to

be go somewhere else.

>> Yeah. I think like when it was happening

I think like I mean I really wasn't

there for that long when I think about

it like 13 14. That's normally like

before you even start getting those like

>> Yeah.

>> So once I came back it was just like an

impossible fever. It was just like I got

to get back there. I got to do it. you

know, and and I had made money. I used

to train horses and I would babysit, so

I had like $3,000. And so I was like,

I'm getting out of here.

>> Let's get out of here. You trained

horses?

>> Mhm.

>> Wow. You proved my point that I feel

like women and young girls that like

horses usually have great hair.

>> Wow.

Always. I don't know. I have a bunch of

theories and one of them is that if you

like horses, it makes your hair grow

really thick. Oh my god. Because you

know what? A friend of mine, every time

she's on mushrooms thinks that I look

like My Little Pony.

>> You have fantastic.

>> This is for you, Rachel.

>> This is for you, Ray. I hope you're

>> mind is going to be blown.

>> Yep.

>> Um, but when I was looking at your life

and career and I was kind of blown away

by how much stuff happened so fast and

young in the in the years of like 19 to

22. Yeah,

>> that was a lot.

>> That's why I was so emotional over those

skinny jeans. They were my 23-year-old

Rag and Bones.

>> Yes. And that was a tender time cuz you

were How old what year were you? 20 201

>> 2012.

>> Cuz you did Winter's Bone, beautiful

movie, incredible performance when you

were 19.

>> Then you do SNL close to that time, too.

Like the following year, maybe.

>> Did I? Yeah. 20. Yeah. because it was

before the Oscars for Silver Linings at

Winter's Bone. I remember being too

young to drink. I did, but at the

Oscars.

>> And what were your memories of doing SNL

at that time?

>> Skewed skewed.

>> I've read I've read

>> you weren't on the cast then.

>> No, 2012. I had left in 20 um 2008 and

then by 2012 I was doing parks and

wreck.

>> Okay. I don't I think I have to I have

to go back and do it again because I had

Walking Pneumonia. I was like under a

lot of pressure and doing a lot and I

was shooting one of the Hunger Games

movies. I was shooting I think the

second one while doing all of this

campaign and I would have to like fly,

go to a party, shake hands and then land

and you know shoot like poor me. Um but

I was very tired and so I think I was

just I remember I was also at that bad

age. I don't know if other people were

like this at this age, but we're like,

you know, when you you get asked like,

can you do any impressions or anything?

And I was like, no.

>> Yeah. You know, like I don't want to be

like,

>> and I can do this and I can do that. I

just kind of made everything like

everybody else's problem. I was like, I

don't know how to do that. I can't do

that.

>> Totally. I know. And and also, I mean,

I've it's it's hard to be young and on

that show. It's just hard. But your

relationship to comedy, what is it like

now? Do you want to make more, do more,

direct more, write more?

>> I would love I I wrote a comedy.

>> You did.

>> And I would love to direct it and I'll

star in it.

>> Oh my god, you should.

>> Thank you.

>> No Hard Feelings was great. You were

hilarious in it. It's such a good movie.

>> Well, I did not write and direct that

one. Um although I guess I could tell

people that I did. I always could.

>> People don't they don't pay attention.

>> No. Um after I wrote and directed No

Hard Feelings, I it really got me

thinking.

But thank you. I had a lot of fun doing

it.

>> And you want to direct as well.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. Right on.

>> Yeah. Great.

>> I mean, everybody does, you know.

>> I think that's true. Like I feel

sometimes people are not into it, but I

feel like I mean, are you finding that

like having worked now and done a lot of

stuff now that you're realizing like,

oh, I want more control in what I what I

do and how I like to work.

>> Yeah. But I also I had my first movie

ever was a female director and then I I

actually ended up working with more

female directors than me male director.

So as a teenager it was like really

>> like

>> not formidable formidable for

>> yeah form formidable

>> forming

>> formidable.

>> It was um

>> farming culture for me. So that made me

like realize

>> why I got to get this word. It's

formidable, right? No, it's like

formative.

>> Formative,

>> informative.

>> Well, it's a formative.

>> What I mean is experience.

>> Formative. Is that what it is?

Formative.

>> Yeah. Here we go. Formative. Something

that relates to formation or development

is shaping and influencing something

else.

>> That is precisely what I mean.

>> Yeah, we did it.

>> Yeah.

>> Um, so it was formative that I realized

that that was even like possible for me

to do it. So I had wanted to do it since

I was a teenager. So then when I went

into movies in like my 20s and now I

always tell the director and then they

include me in a lot of them have been

really nice and like included me in the

process and let me see like post and all

that stuff.

>> What is what's important for you when

you work like what what's the thing you

like to do for example like do you feel

like once I'm on set I want to escape

and just like dive in and I want other

people to handle the stuff. Do you like

to do you like the logistics of the

work? You

>> Oh, I do like the logistics.

like you like a call sheet. You like

knowing what's going to happen.

>> But I think that's like that's a woman's

brain,

>> you know? It's just it's really

>> my producing partner and I have been on

sets together since we were 21 and we

[ __ ] up a call sheet. I mean, we and

when I have like a friend that's going

to go do something, I'm like, "Send me

your call sheet. I'll get you two days."

>> Um, we just know how to make it make

sense. We It's It's divine. So, I like

the logistics. I also I need to connect

and have friends immediately. Like I got

to dive in and find, you know, the

camera guys, the like I got to find like

who my, you know, people are going to

be.

>> It's so interesting. You got to Yeah,

cuz you're like we're going to be

>> Which is not a photo shoot,

>> right?

>> Photo shoot. I don't want you to talk to

me. I just want I just want

>> totally agree. Like I just want it to be

over as fast as possible.

>> And it's just all of it's so

embarrassing, you know? like put your

hand like this.

>> Or if you're considered a funny person,

the worst part is they're like, "We have

a bunch of props."

>> Oh, no.

>> We have clown shoes for you, you [ __ ]

clown.

>> Put Put on the shoes, you [ __ ] clown.

But it's so true. I mean, I've been in

many shoes where like a chill goes down

your spine. They're like, "Just it's

always a whisper." There's a bunch of

fun props if you want to play with them

at any point.

>> If you want to play, you look over and

you're like, "Oh, no. It's like a giant

lollipop." and a rubber chicken.

>> Yeah. Like that's not going to come

naturally to me. Like if you want me to

pull on the rubber chicken, I will, but

you have to direct me to pull on it.

>> And the other thing is like we have a

really fun idea. You have all this

barbecue sauce on your face. Like it's

always it's always like we're going to

humiliate you

>> and you're going to just

>> you're going to smile your way through

it. You're you're such a good time,

>> right? Okay. I know mine aren't that

bad.

>> I'm kind of shocked to hear that. I mean

Well, I'm not shocked. talk to me.

Honestly,

>> they're just like, "We were thinking you

wouldn't wear a bra for this." And I'm

like, "I've had two children."

>> And they're like, "No." They're like,

"But

>> you want me to show you something? Come

here. I'm going to show you something.

>> All your pictures are you just

flashing?"

>> Uh, yeah.

>> Because a good hang, we're always

looking for a good hang. I have

questions I want to ask you. I want your

opinion about things. Oh, okay.

>> I want your hot takes.

>> Okay. Oh, yeah. No problemmo.

>> I know you like to give hot takes.

>> Yeah.

>> And I want And these are important

things.

>> Okay. I got to take it easy on the

housewives, though. I always get I get

like

>> Okay. I'm going to tell you something

about I don't know that much about

housewives.

>> Okay. No, no, no. It's fine. I mean,

that's good. I

>> But you like Below Deck.

>> Yeah, I do.

>> First question. If you were on Below

Deck, what would you want your job to

be? Which which of the jobs?

>> A stew.

>> I Well, no. No, no. I would go into that

laundry and I'd [ __ ] that laundry up.

I'd put a podcast in. I'd steam. I'd

fold. I'd have a system. I'd have a

colorcoded system.

>> I don't even People never want to go

down into the laundry and below deck.

And it's like, why? You don't have to

talk to any of the people. You're there

by yourself.

>> Yeah. I'm alone. And again, I would put

one ear pod in. I'd listen to some

murder and I just [ __ ] [ __ ] that [ __ ]

up.

>> It' be so satisfying. Yeah. And also

doing like doing turnown would be one of

the most satisfying thing getting the

lines in the vacuum perfectly.

>> Do you have like are you a earth sign?

What's your what you've got like a um

>> I'm a Leo.

>> Oh, so okay. So you've got you but you

have a lot of grounded. You like

organizing. You like straight things.

Does your house meet?

>> Well,

it I mean my if you look at my bedside

table and then you look at my husband's

bedside table, mine is an explosion.

pills everywhere. I mean, I look like

I'm dying

>> littered with pills.

>> What's What is her malady

>> and my husband's like just a bottle of

water.

>> Yeah. Um

>> Okay. But you like

>> But I do I I get I get satisfied once

it's like time to clean up.

>> You like a good You like a good system.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah, that makes sense to me. And then

Okay, another question is, do you have a

nickname?

>> Fluffin nitro

boobs.

Boobs Lawrence, the full government

name. Um,

Nitro. Yeah.

>> Where did Nitro come from?

>> My brothers, cuz I was really hyper and

they called me Nitro.

>> Um, I love that you are

>> Oh, and my friends call me Ken from the

Barbie movie cuz I'm just Ken. I think

it's their way of calling me stupid.

And whenever I ask something stupid,

they're like, "She's just Ken."

Um, your you have two older brothers.

>> Yeah.

>> And what was it like growing up like

with older brothers? What do you feel

like there's a thing that happens to

like what's the good part about having

two older brothers?

>> Is there one?

>> Um, they're I mean I I mean they were

great. They were really protective, you

know, not with themselves. They're like,

you know.

>> I mean, did it make you like tough?

>> Yeah, I think it made me tough

>> as the mother of sons. I will say, and

you're you're gonna eventually notice

this too, because you had brothers, the

way boys and young boys talk to each

other won't be as shocking. Like, you're

you're going to it's used to it. And

again,

>> in fact, I find myself doing

>> I do too. And that's kind of a love

language. Like,

>> yeah,

>> when I've noticed the way that you

interact with people that you work with,

it also feels like you turn people into

brothers. Like, it feels like

>> I think I do.

>> Josh Hutcherson was a brother. It feels

like Robert Patson feels like a brother.

Like,

>> yeah. Oh, you're so right. Okay. Um,

Doritos, your opinion?

>> Love them.

>> Me, too.

>> Cool. I mean, but now I'm like older and

I like think about like what's in it. I

mean, not if I'm like on a plane. If I'm

on a plane and I see him, I'm going to

>> Dorito is going to get eight, but

>> Yeah.

>> But I do think about it more.

>> Okay. Do you do any impressions?

>> No.

Do I?

No, I don't think so. H I feel like I've

seen you do um I feel like I've seen you

do um

>> who do I

>> Real Housewives impressions, but no

>> I have to text.

>> Do you want to do the game that we do?

We do. We do this game at SNL which is

it's like you like do it or die and it's

basically um you don't have to do it and

we can cut it but it's really fun to

play and you can do it to me too which

you just give someone uh a name and they

have to do it. I have to do an

impression in 10 seconds. It's doesn't

have to be good but if you don't do it

you'll die.

>> Okay. You ready? and Robert Janeiro.

>> ME.

YOU DID IT.

YOU DIDN'T DIE. ME.

I would love to see a recut version of

him. Not saying, "Are you talking to

me?" But just going me.

>> I mean, I there's I I What What's the

coldest day you've ever had on set? And

the hottest day you've ever had on set?

>> Coldest was

uh I mean I know like the real answer

was like you know one of the Hunger

Games movies where I was like on a

frozen lake but it was actually in

Calgary doing Die My Love

>> because it was August so it was supposed

to be warm and so there wasn't like

there weren't like warming coats or

anything and you know I'm just in like a

t-shirt or whatever and so that was

>> the coldest that that like broke my

heart like made me want to cry. This

proves my theory that Marty Short, You

did cry because you were so cold. Yeah.

>> Um, this proves my theory that I said to

Marty Short, like it's never warm in

Canada. Never. And it's always [ __ ]

freezing. And it's freezing in August.

Always. And Canadians pretend like, "Oh,

we had a really nice day." And it's

like, "You did not have a nice day."

>> No, you were very cold.

>> It's really cold.

>> Um, when you're cold and you cry on set

in

>> I didn't cry on set. I cried in my

trailer to Justine. She was like,

"What's wrong?" And I was like, "I'm

just feeling really cold." But I was

pregnant. And I just remembered.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. Of course I cried. I probably

cried every day.

>> Yeah. That movie seems like there was a

lot of tears. [ __ ]

>> It was fun. It was fun to like play

somebody. That's

>> fun. But you have to do some stuff, man.

You have to go for it in some movies

that I'm like, "This is hard. Screaming

all day. Crying all day."

>> All day.

>> Hard. But you're so blessed.

>> I'm blessed.

>> Um

>> me blessed.

>> You talking to me? The last one here.

>> Hottest day on set.

>> Hottest day on set.

>> Hottest time you've ever like you

remember working and it was really hot.

>> The No, I know what you mean. Um I

answered the first one. I obviously get

the put the context together.

>> Maybe you were thinking about something

more ironic.

>> Um I think it was the first Hunger

Games. Yeah, the first Hunger Games. We

were shooting in uh North Carolina. It

was humid and we had those jackets on.

Oh, yeah. You need to run in those

jackets.

>> Running in the jackets. Yeah.

>> Speaking of running, I feel like uh my

next question like I what I love about

you is how you don't feel like you're

competitive with other actresses and you

really wish for other people's success,

but in a foot race, who would win

between you and Emma Stone?

>> She's got like really tiny bones and I I

just have very thick bones. Um so what

does that mean for running? That's hard

to know cuz thinner bones. You might be

faster out of the gate.

>> I think I think if I like got a clock

in, I'd knock her out in like two

seconds.

>> 100%. No offense, Emma, if you're

listening, but there's You would

definitely

>> No, I could I mean, I could take her

out. If it was like a fight or a

wrestle, she'd stun me. Um, but running,

I don't know because I don't know if her

hollow bones give her an advantage.

>> Yeah. Karaoke. What's your what what's

your go-to?

>> Any man of mine? Shaniah Twain.

>> Hm. I just want to hear I don't know

that one. This This is where your

Kentucky comes in.

>> Oh,

>> any man of mine.

>> Yeah.

>> Look how cute she is.

>> I still don't know this. Oh,

>> but you like it, right?

>> To do the Woo.

>> Yeah, of course.

>> This is what a woman wants.

>> This is what a woman loves.

And a man of mine better be proud of a

man. Even when I'm ugly, he still better

love me. And I can be late for a date,

that's fine. But he better be on time.

Woo. Any man of mine say it's it's just

right when dress is just a little too

tight. And anything I bet he's to say

better be okay. when I had a bad hair

day.

And if I change my mind

a million times,

>> I want to hear him say, "Yeah,

>> yeah."

>> Yeah. Yeah. Like that way.

>> Oh my god. You're good.

>> I know. Really good.

Very good.

>> I love karaoke, too.

>> Yeah. And I'm on key.

>> You were on key.

>> Yeah.

>> You were Did you ever say Did you ever

You're a good singer.

>> No,

>> that's not true. I just heard it. I just

heard it.

>> I know you did. I know you heard it.

Okay. Anyway, moving on.

>> All right. All right. Um uh have you

ever been awarded a middle or high

school superlative? Middle school or

high school superlative?

>> Most talkative.

>> Most.

>> Two years in a row. Then third year I

had left. I was in New York. like you

got to get out of here.

>> Yeah.

>> Talked my way right out of the building.

>> Most talkative. Yeah.

>> Most talkative and most for me and the

three that were like cousins were

talkative. Um like class clown and

mischievous. Like they all were like

together.

>> We didn't have those. We had talkative

best smile cuz I remember be not getting

that one. Um

>> you were going for that one

>> and like No, I was going for Miss

Camera.

>> Miss what?

>> Miss Cammer. Camera is the name of the

school.

This is like the rural juror. The rural

juror. Say Miss Camera.

>> Camera Middle School was the name. K A M

M E R E R. Camera Middle School.

>> That's where I went to school.

>> Okay. Um, we kind of went over this

already. Horses. Yes or no?

>> Yes.

>> Okay. Um, do you do that crazy thing

where you insist on doing your own

stunts?

>> No.

>> And have you ever I feel like Okay,

great. Just keep that up.

>> Okay.

>> Um, best album or song of the year? What

are you listening to that you love?

>> Oh, I don't know any current music.

>> I once they got rid of the radio, I

really I didn't know. I mean, how am I

supposed to do know what's coming out? I

just have my

>> phone.

>> But what part of my phone? My phone has

podcast. I mean, playlist.

>> Do you not listen to Do you not

>> I don't listen to like How do you listen

to live music on your phone? Honestly, I

usually learn about new music from

Instagram or Tik Tok that I then go and

buy.

>> The Lily Allen I don't know when this

podcast is coming out in the future, but

the Lily Allen album dropped a couple

weeks ago and oh, I love it.

>> So good. So good.

>> I didn't know it was a [ __ ] palace.

>> And um and um Monaga Mommy.

>> Managa Mommy. So good.

>> So good.

>> Yeah. And tennis. Tennis might be my

favorite song from the album. So so

talented. I feel like this I I was just

saying to someone like I feel like the

pop stars like they're just the female

pop like they're just dominating in

every area.

>> I know. Charlie XCX is so cool.

>> I know. Do you know her? I feel like you

guys would hang out.

>> I don't know her. I mean, would she hang

out with me? I don't know. I don't know.

>> She would just call her up.

>> I will.

>> Okay. So, let me talk about um your

movie Die My Love, which looks amazing.

And you once again like you're if I

haven't made it clear, you're so good at

acting.

>> Thank you very much. That's really

really nice.

>> And you really are doing the thing

you're meant to do.

>> Thank you. Yeah.

>> And do you feel that?

>> Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely.

>> Do you feel like was there ever a time

when you thought I there there's

anything else I would want to do? It

just feels like

>> Every time I'm on a press store,

>> you're like, you know what? I don't

think Yes.

>> Yeah. Yeah. It it just doesn't feel like

how does anybody like

>> But do you feel like when you get on set

do you feel or when you're work when

you're really in the work you feel super

relaxed?

>> Yeah.

>> Totally.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. I mean it's like it's hard and

you're tired and you know you'd rather

be like home.

>> Yeah.

>> But um

>> but you're like Yeah. So

>> this process seemed really cool. Lynn

and Robert seemed like you guys, Lynn

Ramsey, the director, it seemed like you

three

>> had some kind of way of working that

seemed really creative and cool. Was

that true?

>> Yeah, it was cool cuz Lynn and I talked

about it for like years before we like

really had a script.

>> So, I felt like

>> we had had so many conversations like

about this person and about her

circumstances that by the time we got

there, there was just like a lot of

freedom that was like kind of scary,

>> you know, like like an improv type of

situation where it's just like go.

>> It's kind of like under what terms, what

circumstances, but um but it was really

really fulfilling. I was like

challenging in a nice way.

>> And you're playing somebody who's kind

of like descending into

>> madness.

>> And do you when you when you're playing

something like that, do you track,

you know,

are you always trying to figure out like

where is she at in this scene? like how

far has she gone?

>> Kind of. I thought that I was going to

have to do that a little bit more, but

it ended up just being like finding the

truth of what she was saying like in the

moment, which I think sometimes it

didn't end up being as

>> um I don't know, like crazy as I

thought. But the costumes helped with

that because I think they like move from

a different place and so they at first

she dresses really differently and

sticks out and then as she stays there

she starts to blend in with the

community and so that was a good way

that I could mark kind of like where the

head my head space would be.

>> That's a that's very cool idea, right?

That you're realizing I'm wearing this

this pair of pants which reminds me that

I'm in this space. for like 8 months.

>> And it's kind of getting back full

circle to what we're talking about

clothes. Like I do feel like clothes,

like there are certain outfits, for

example, that I wore during co that I

cannot wear again because they just

>> Oh, because of co Oh, it's like when you

wear like work pants and then they get

ruined cuz they're work pants.

>> Or you get broken up with in a shirt and

you can never wear it again. Like

clothes hold some memory.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> But you got to just get them right out

of there.

>> You got to get them out of there.

>> Yeah.

>> Um Okay. We've mentioned your producing

partner Justine a few times.

>> We have.

>> You have? You've mentioned her twice.

>> Oh my god.

>> Yeah. And she's like your best like a

really longtime friend. Tell us about

her.

>> She's Yeah. My best friend. Um we met

right after I did Winter's Bone. So I

was 19.

>> Um and we fell in love with movies. We

we like read together. We like

discovered Walt Whitman together. Um, so

it was like so we like I think our like

consciousness like woke up together and

and we were like and

>> she was always like she was my like

roommate when I started getting really

famous and she was really

>> I think I credit her a lot with like why

I didn't start kind of

>> getting too big for my britches or

anything cuz everything was really real

with her and

>> um and she's just I'm really lucky to

have her. I feel really um I love her a

lot. I feel loved by her. I trust her

completely. I trust her taste. She's

also a really hard worker. She likes

hard work.

>> So, um yeah, I'm really lucky. I

wouldn't normally recommend working with

friends, but in our case, it's worked

out nice.

>> You guys started a production company,

Excellent Cadabber.

>> Yeah.

>> You produced

>> about six or seven years ago. a bunch.

You You've been working together for a

long time and your company's produced a

bunch of amazing films, including

Causeway, which I think was one of my

most favorite things I've ever seen you

do. I love that movie. So good.

>> Thanks.

>> Um, for people who haven't seen it,

check it out. It's you and Brian Henry.

>> Brian Tyrie Henry, incredible. Um, from

Atlanta and many other things.

Incredible actor. And you two play vets

who are kind of physically and

spiritually struggling. Um, and back

home and it's such it's such a good and

Laya is an amazing Yeah.

>> director.

>> Laya Nugabower. It was her first film,

but she's a big theater director and

she's great. Sorry, the inside of my ear

is itchy. Is this gross?

>> No, but you know, itchy ears are a sign

of pmenopause. So, CONGRATS.

>> CONGRATS, BABY.

>> We'll cut that.

>> Oh, no. We'll double that.

>> We're going to make it really Yeah.

We're just like the preview.

>> We're going to we're going to underline

it with

>> We're here with Perry Menopause sufferer

Jennifer Lawrence.

>> I always thought that would be a good

drag name by the way is Perry Menopause.

>> Oh, it is. That really is.

>> But anyway, we talked to Justine.

>> You did?

>> Yes.

>> Oh, because we do this thing where we

have people talk about our guests and

like talk well behind their back and

give me a question to ask them. And I

talked to Justine today.

>> I should have kn I listened to this

podcast. I don't know why I'm so like

beside my I'm surprised. What did she

say?

>> She had a really good question, I

thought, which was basically like, "What

do you want to talk about?" She was

like, "Ask Jen what she wants to talk

about and what she's sick of talking

about."

>> Oh, I thought I know. I thought that was

a good friend question.

>> I'm sick of talking about the movie.

>> Yeah, great.

>> Um, we won't we're going to cut it out.

And I want to talk about

>> What have we not talked about that you

want to talk about?

>> Oh, I think we've covered every We've

talked about things that I would have

never known that I wanted to talk about

that I wanted to talk about.

>> Yeah.

>> So, I don't I can't answer it.

>> Okay.

>> Okay.

>> Well,

um, what do you listen to, watch? What

do you What makes you laugh? How do you

get yourself up up the elevator?

>> Well, you make me laugh.

>> Thank you.

>> Um, you're on my algorithm a lot and you

and Tina um and you guys hosted

>> a Golden Globes that I was at and you

were the funniest people I've ever seen

in my life. You made me proud to be a

woman. Was that when we said that um

American Hustle was

the title of the original title at the

wig factory?

>> Yeah.

>> But what Okay. But what do you listen to

read watch? Who makes you laugh?

>> Um I watch VEP.

>> Oh yeah. So we interviewed Julia

recently.

>> You did?

>> I I called her the LeBron James of

comedy. She's won so many championships

with different teams and she rejected

that.

>> She wouldn't she wouldn't accept that

title.

>> That's so her. I mean, what if she was

like, "Thank you." I know.

>> Um, yeah, she's she's a hero of mine.

Um, I love Modern Family.

>> Mhm.

>> Um,

>> are you like a true millennial and you

watch things that you've watched before

just to like go to sleep?

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> No, I'm Gen Z and I I don't know what

they do.

>> And you just love your clothes online.

>> Kiss your robot and sell your clothes.

Yeah. Yeah.

>> Well, um I mean I feel like we covered

so much good stuff.

>> Yeah.

>> I feel great about this interview.

>> I do too. I can't wait for it to come

out.

>> I'm going to be the first to watch it.

>> Last question is I know you do like a

lot of reality TV. What show would you

want to be on of all of them?

>> Well, I I mean want to be on them. I

guess the Kardashians cuz then I'd be

like on a private plane going to like

Fiji. Like

>> that's true.

Because the other ones like they're not

they're not like having a good

>> Yeah. Like there's no comfort.

>> Yeah,

>> you're right. You're right. Maybe.

Maybe. Yeah, cuz you just mentioned

Amazing Race and I feel like sometimes

there's like a little part of me that

thinks I would

>> I tried to go on Bear Grills.

>> You did?

>> Let you No, I What happened was I was

like I was determined to do it. Um I

ended up getting pregnant

>> and I but I was still going to do it and

then I texted my OB/GYN. I was like,

"Hey, so I'm going to be doing Bear

Grills on like the 17th. Is there

anything I should like tell them?" And

he was like, "You're not doing that."

I was like, "Oh." And then I just after

>> Do you know the show alone? Have you Are

you

>> I love Alone. Oh my god. Building the

the fortresses, building the cabins. H

isn't building the houses. Isn't that

the part that you want to do the most?

And and if I may,

the amount of energy that people build

on their houses is fascinating cuz some

people you're like, "You're going to get

way too tired. This house is too nice."

>> Yeah. They're burning a lot of calories.

>> Burning a lot of calories.

>> Other people, it's like you're sleeping

under a tarp for 6 weeks. Like you got

to get your house together. Like what's

wrong with you?

>> I know.

>> The in between of that is fascinating to

me.

>> Yeah. The bugs. It was really satisfying

when you're a guy white man didn't um

bring a fire starter cuz he was just

like I can do it.

>> I saw that one. That was

>> really satisfying.

>> Sean Freud, if you will.

>> I also love the men that that come on

really strong and immediately like twist

an ankle.

>> Yeah, I do love that.

>> Or the other thing that takes them down

their stomachs.

>> I'm surprised that they don't have them

just go with Cypro. that like cypro

isn't just like in there.

>> Maybe they do. Maybe they

>> I don't think they do. Seems like they

do.

>> The the diarrhea.

>> They get diarrhea immediately.

>> Immediately.

>> I need diarrhea immediately.

>> But they im and and men are just they

cannot handle when they when they don't

feel good. They just everything falls

the [ __ ] apart. So they're just like I

don't feel good. And you're like,

>> "See you later, dude." And the women are

just weaving baskets and staying there

for a 100 days. Yeah.

>> Anyway, Jennifer Lawrence,

>> thank you.

>> Thank you for coming.

>> Thank you for having me.

>> Thank you for spending time here today.

>> I think if any I've overstayed my

welcome.

>> If you want any food from the

background,

>> what if I just grabbed your favorite? I

JUST GRABBED THE TOP AND WAS LIKE,

"THANK YOU. BYE."

>> Thank you so much, Jennifer Lawrence.

That was so fun. And um and thanks for

being here. And you know, for this Polar

Plunge, I always like to dig a little

deeper on something that we spoke of in

the podcast. And I would just highly

recommend that you watch Causeway. It's

such a great film. Jennifer is so good

in it. Brian Tyrie Henry is so good in

it. An incredible actor. Um directed by

Laya Noaber. And it's just really really

good. Um it's just a I don't know. I

just loved it. I think you will too.

Check it out. Thank you for listening.

Please come back soon. Bye.

You've been listening to Good Hang. The

executive producers for this show are

Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss Berman, and

me, Amy Polar. The show is produced by

The Ringer and Paperkite. For The

Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Cat

Spalain, Kaia McMullen, and Alia

Xanerys. For Paperkite, production by

Sam Green, Joel Levelvel, and Jenna

Weiss Berman. Original music by Amy

Miles.

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