Transcript: Ashley Padilla on Good Hang with Amy Poehler

Hello everyone. Welcome to another

episode of Good Hang. We are really

excited about our guest today. It is

Ashley Padilla. Ashley is so talented,

so funny. In her third season at SNL,

just an excellent cast member who we've

all fallen in love with. And we are

going to talk about a lot of fun stuff

today. We're going to talk about the

wonderful Diane Keaton. We're gonna talk

about getting arrested and mouththing

off to cops. We're gonna talk about how

lucky we are to have comedy as our job

and how we pinch ourselves every day.

We're going to get into a lot of good

stuff. Um, but before we do, we are

going to talk to somebody who knows our

guest, who works with our guest, and

that is Andrew Dismutes, another

hilarious performer and writer on SNL.

Um, a good Texas boy who has a real New

York coffee order. So, let's uh check in

with Andrew. I believe he's speaking to

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>> Andrew, what are you drinking there?

What's your coffee? coffee order.

>> I'm in Appleton, Wisconsin right now. I

did some standup. So, nice hotel coffee.

>> You went down and got it and brought it

back up to your room.

>> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

>> Fantastic. How do you take your coffee?

>> Black straight up.

>> Okay.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. I'm a I'm a real one. Yeah.

>> Pretty serious stuff.

>> Hell yeah. I'm a tough guy. I'm a tough

New York guy.

Andrew, I was I was so happy that we

were talking today and realizing that I

need to get you into the stew because I

feel like I I Are you a New York guy?

Did you grow up in the east? I don't

know enough about you.

>> No, you're not.

>> I'm from Texas originally, but become,

you know, I've become a New York guy in

my heart.

>> Actually, you have because you've been

what? You've been living in the city for

how long now?

>> Yeah. Uh nine years now.

>> Dang.

>> It's crazy. And I and I've seen like

none of it. Every time people ask me

like what my favorite restaurant is, I'm

like there's one like two blocks from my

house that's great.

>> And do you have a set tonight, standup

set tonight or or did you just uh do one

last night?

>> I did one last night flying back home uh

later.

>> How did it go?

>> Crashed. Crashed. Let's just say it.

There's no no no two ways about it.

Crashed.

>> Yeah.

>> And did you change some minds? You

changed some lives? That's well that's

what it's really all about is it's about

touching hearts and changing minds and

we did. We did.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> And I and I know I have heard that

people have asked you to stop touching

their hearts.

>> And I said too bad.

>> HR has asked you to stop touching

someone hearts.

>> I'm just trying to I'm just trying to

change people. Like well you're

literally touching their hearts. I

thought that's what I was supposed to

do.

I'm very excited to talk to you about

Ashley today because

um you two have something that you just

kind of can't manufacture, which is

chemistry. You two have a way of of

being together in the world as

performers that feels very natural and

fun and playful. How did you first meet?

>> Uh we first met at the show, like her

first episode. Um,

and just pretty quickly it was clear

that like, oh, this is somebody who has

got chops like crazy. And I think

specifically both like performer and

writer chops like um she's such a

confident performer and so able to bring

like real acting to the sketches she

does, but then also like what she

writes, you're also like, damn, you're

good at both of those things. That's

crazy.

And did you start writing with her right

away?

>> No, really. Her whole first season, we

didn't collaborate much. I think we

maybe wrote one or two things that

didn't make it to air. Um, but yeah, the

first real collaboration was the weekend

update thing, the the couple who just

hooked up,

>> right?

>> Yeah.

>> And your tie is a skew.

>> My tie is a skew. It's very steamy.

>> It's very Her hair is got that bed bed

head thing. And you guys are talking

about the Super Bowl.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> I mean, that is my favorite thing about

weekend update features is what the

characters are talking about.

>> Yeah. This is who you got to talk about

this

>> and they're doing a very bad job.

It's like just the worst run show in the

world. That's like the premise of

Weekend Update is they have the worst

booker of all time.

>> Yeah, they have terrible guests. Um, and

what do you like about writing with her?

I I think what I like the most about

Ashley's writing and writing with her is

like uh her ideas are all like about

playing the realness of the scene. And

so that's just fun to create in that

space where it's like we're playing real

emotion to comedic effect rather than

like uh being kind of over the top

silly. It's just a fun energy to get

into.

>> Yeah. I want to talk to her about that

today is that, you know, she's a really

good actress and so she's like acting

everything very naturally and very real.

And it's funny because she puts herself

in very insane and she's often like very

incredulous as a character. She kind of

can't believe what's happening to her.

>> Yeah. I think about the like fart sketch

that she did, which everybody loves a

fart sketch, but it's so funny the way

she plays it where it's like this woman

is very legitimately upset that it just

happened. It's not like, "Oh, I farted."

It's like, "Oh my god, I farted." Like,

I just love that. I I love that approach

that she has.

>> Me, too. And for people they don't know,

she plays a um a woman who um her

co-workers try to surprise her. They

turn on the lights and she farts as soon

as she sees them and it's just like

downhill from there. She cannot get past

it. Um and then there's like two minutes

of her asking everybody what they make,

what their salary is.

>> So good.

>> Played very real. Um do you have a

question for Ashley today? Uh anything

big or small that I could ask her? I

feel like Groundlings specifically, when

people come to SNL from Groundlings,

it's that it feels like that. It feels

like those people are so equipped for

SNL off the jump. Um, thinking like

Mikey, Heidi, Ashley, as well as like

former cast members who come back and

host. It just feels like that's the most

mappable

training ground for people in a really

interesting way. And I guess I'm just

curious what it would like if she has

any insight in like what was it that she

learned in Groundlings or what was it

that Groundlings specifically instilled

in her that made her be like so ready

and so equipped? What's the thing she

learned in Groundlings

um or just from that time in her life

that she feels like has applied the most

to being on SNL?

>> Ah, great question. I mean, what if we

found out that Groundlings has like a

mini SNL set and they just run drills?

That would be I wouldn't be surprised.

Yeah.

Uh yeah, I'm just so impressed with her

like so quickly. I'm like what's the

secret? How did what what did you learn?

Like please tell me.

>> She does do a thing that I think good

and and I think you do this too. And is

that you know in sketch you have to be

grounded but you also can't be like too

too internal too interior. You know, I'm

sure like actors come on the show and

they're they get kind of quiet and they

really want to and you're like, "Oh, no,

you have to be loud."

>> Totally. Totally. Yeah. I I think

especially just in that room like I

think people have talked about it where

it's like doesn't have the best

acoustics. Like there is a thing of like

sometimes you'll do a sketch and you'll

be like, I don't think anybody in that

room heard what I was saying.

I think everybody in the audience was

like, "Oh, wow." They just went and did

like a silent little play.

>> Yeah.

>> And uh we didn't enjoy it, but

>> they did a little whisper play.

>> They did a little whisper play. So yeah,

being still able to being able to be

micro, but also like Yeah. play play big

enough to get laughs in that room is

very important. And she does do that

very well.

>> Yeah. Right on. Awesome. Well, it's it's

great to see. The last time I saw you, I

felt like I I was dressed as a man and I

was holding a tortoise because of

something.

>> We had a sketch where you were dressed

as a man and holding a tortoise.

>> Well, thank you for that

>> and and thank you for doing that. We

really appreciated it.

>> Of course. And I will I the tortoise

wrangler who you know um was very nice.

Uh did warn me that the tortoise could

and would most likely bite.

And you handled it like a champ and we

really appreciated that

>> cuz we she the the wrangler did said

that and we were like and you're cool

with that, right, Amy? You're cool with

maybe getting bitten.

>> Totally.

Well, thank you for talking in from your

hotel room. Um good luck with the

coffee.

>> Thank you.

>> Please don't turn any lights on. Just

stay as stay in the dark.

>> I'm gonna stay in the dark because this

is just sort of where I like to be. This

is just where I'm most comfortable.

>> Yeah, there's a hard light coming here

and a hard shadow. I think that's best

for a zoom. And I'm sure that your

producers are really happy that uh I

that this is my configuration.

>> Well, we're gonna we're going to use

those zoom filters. We're going to put

on funny sunglasses. We're going to put

on like a

>> beret like a cool tough guy. Yeah. Nice.

>> Like a cool tough Yeah. Like a New

Yorker,

>> right? Cuz like New York, I got

sunglasses on like a New Yorker cuz I'm

a cool tough guy.

>> Andrew, thank you so much for doing

this. Ashley's going to be thrilled that

we talked and it's so great to see you.

>> Thank you, Amy.

>> Thank you so much. Okay, buddy. Bye.

>> Bye.

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>> I'm so glad you're here.

>> This is surreal.

>> Come on. Come on.

I'm so excited. Crazy.

>> Yeah, I know

>> what

>> people don't know that we're we're

talking on a very stormy and rainy

morning.

>> It's very rainy.

>> I mean, I don't know if people care

about the weather outside when we do

this, but I guess

every day you're like today's forecast.

>> Totally. But I was like, maybe it's too

stormy. Maybe Ashley won't come.

I got scared.

>> Not today. I can't do this. Sorry, Amy.

It's raining.

>> Okay. Are we good with Ashley's?

>> Just your microphone.

>> Okay. Oh, you can I can move this.

>> Okay. Let's move. We can scoot. We can

scooch.

>> Can I take a sip of this yet?

>> No. There. It's lighter fluid in there.

>> It's for the cameras.

>> Water. It's for the cameras.

>> I'm so sorry.

>> There's no way

>> you can't drink anything.

>> Okay. I trust you. Yes, of course you

can. Okay, very good. So, move

a little bit.

They're just kind of moving.

>> And weirdly, the laptop is the only

thing you can see.

>> Look at this.

>> And can you imagine if I was just on it,

too, the whole time? And

>> you're on Facebook, RIGHT?

YOU'RE ON TWITTER BEING LIKE, "Ever so

bored in your life?"

>> Hello, Facebook market. You're on

Facebook market.

>> Ashley Padilla is here.

>> Yeah.

>> I'm so happy you're here.

>> I can't believe it.

>> I'm thrilled you're here. And

congratulations on being one of the

captains of the show.

>> Wow.

>> And

>> coming from the captain,

>> ma'am. And also

>> ma'am and also please don't talk to me.

>> Don't

I don't want to talk about my life. No,

>> I'm interviewing you.

>> Oh,

>> but the cast is so good right now. The

show is so gelled. Congratulations on

having an incredible year.

>> Thank you.

>> Your second year, second season show.

>> Yeah.

>> And I guess what I wanted to start with

is that I don't, you know, I don't know

a lot about you. very mysterious

actually

>> and you like to keep it that way.

>> Yeah.

>> So great talking to you.

>> Byebye. Anyways, it's still raining

outside. Yeah.

>> The rain is getting harder.

>> Talk about the rain. But but um you're a

private person.

>> Uhhuh.

>> Or I would say you don't have a lot of

>> It's not that I'm private.

>> Okay, tell me.

>> It's that I'm so scary boring. And I

thought, I'm going to reveal this

last night in bed, going to bed,

thinking about today. And I had an image

of us sitting there, no talking, and you

going "So,"

and

>> I was like, "No, Ashley, that won't

happen. She'll have questions for sure.

>> She'll think of something. She'll think

of something.

>> She'll talk about the weather or

something. She'll say that it's raining

outside. I had a nightmare that you were

like okay

>> because there's nothing to share.

>> That's not everyone has something to

share.

everyone

>> got to.

>> But one of my kind of themes of today is

that you entered the show kind of as a

grown ass woman like with your

>> skills and your readiness for the show

and us getting to know you on the show

seemed to have matched in my opinion and

that's very very cool and satisfying to

watch. And also you have something that

I really really love and when you talk

about your job and your show is a real

gratitude for how cool it is to get paid

to do comedy on TV. Like I

>> It's crazy. I know it's crazy. I'm

scared if I say it out loud too much.

>> People be like, "Hey, she's right. GET

HER OUT. GET HER OUT OF HERE." OR PAY

HER NOTHING. WHAT THE HELL? I do worry

about that

>> because because to be uh a successful

actor on a TV show that is so beloved

that people are responding to your work,

it's and even just, you know, I was

looking up the number again because I

always get blown away by the fact that

there's only been like 180 170 something

cast members. It's like good.

>> It's a club. It's an airplane.

>> It's an airplane.

So to be on that show, I guess, what are

the still kind of pinch me moments, two

years in

that feel like this,

you speaking to me? It really is so

crazy. It's like there's it pinch me

moments every day. It because it's so

silly be because what you said. I mean,

I I've been practicing this craft for so

long.

>> Yes. even in childhood doing it without

you realizing you're doing it, right?

Just being an idiot and funny and people

saying you're annoying and it's just

like

>> Yeah,

>> it was so natural to me and so to do it

>> for a living is crazy. It's a pinch me

moment all the time.

>> What kind of little kid were you?

>> I was loud and really funny, I think.

And I think, you know, my my uncle I

think could my uncle Chris he he's the

one who really got me into sketch

comedy. He did he would

>> I did a thing called the sign spinner. I

came up with this girl named Esther the

sign spinner.

>> Oh, like the person that's outside of

>> Yeah. Sign Spin. And she was a character

named Esther who would she sign spinned

for for fun cuz she loved it. So she'd

make signs for different restaurants

around town and do it for free. And

they're like, "Get out of our We don't

know." And it was this thing we came up

with and he like recorded it with me and

>> cute. How old were you?

>> Edited it with me. 13.

>> So he was the one who was like, "You

have something and I like comedy and

let's make this." And he was like, he

was the man, he played the manager of

this place that was like, "Get out of

here." And I'm like, "I like doing

this." And I was And I remember being so

proud of myself

>> that I could keep a straight face.

>> Like you'd be like, "Cut." And I'd be

like, I didn't even laugh.

>> I didn't even laugh.

>> They laughed once. It was hilarious the

whole time.

>> That was funny the whole time. And I was

keeping that in.

>> I wanted to laugh.

>> Were you watching Sketch at the time?

Like did he

>> I don't know what I was watching.

>> Cool uncles who like introduce him to

music and comedy.

>> Oh yeah.

>> What were you watching at 13? Or what

were you into?

>> I was watching The Office

>> and I was really obsessed with it. I was

really obsessed with Dwight Shroo. Yes.

And I wanted to that's kind of what I

why I wore the glasses as Esther and

like

>> I was obsessed with him in a big way

because he was doing the thing I wanted

to do which was being crazy.

>> Yeah.

>> And committing to it.

>> And what was crazy and funny was that he

was doing it out of his own truth as a

character. So he wasn't trying to go for

the joke. What was funny was that he was

he thought this was serious

>> and it was that. Yeah. Well, that is

what is I think is so interesting about

your work is like I do think you come to

it from an acting place,

>> right? So, did do you did you want to be

did you consider when you were a young

person like did you say I wanted to be

comedian or do I want to be an actor?

>> I don't think I knew the difference. I

just knew. Same with Steve Carell. I

mean like his the laughs he would get.

I'd watch the office of St. My mom

always got me the um season for

Christmas. Like I knew it was coming.

every Christmas was the new season in

like the DVD set because I would sit and

watch it for hours because

>> that's the whole without realizing it

that is what they're all doing. They're

all just acting really well,

>> right?

>> And Steve Carl as well just all his

little inner work that he's doing

>> is getting the laugh. He's barely

sometimes has lines and he's getting a

laugh.

>> Yes.

>> So,

>> yes,

>> I I didn't put two and two together. I

just think it's

>> it just was natural. It was like, "Oh,

that's how I get the laugh is when I am

so locked in."

>> Mhm.

>> I remember there was this like once I

remember there was this thing I did for

a friend, my friend Sierra, we went to a

museum. I don't know why. We were just

like having a a gals day as you do. You

go to the museum

>> and drink grape juice, you know. Okay.

So, you know, and we were doing that and

we were at the museum and I was making

her laugh because I was acting like the

bench in the middle of the place was a

piece of artwork and I was like,

it's real

and people started watching and she's

crying nearby and I remember writing

down later at groundings in class like

the bench is beautiful. Believe the

bench is beautiful. Believe it is.

There's art all around this girl, but

she thinks that's a piece of art.

Believe it's beautiful. And it it's like

>> just suspend people's bit. I don't know.

It's a joke. You don't know you're

funny. The character doesn't know

they're funny.

>> Mhm. Never.

>> Ever.

>> So, did you come from a funny family?

You have three siblings. What is your

birth order?

>> I'm second. So, Lindsay's the oldest.

It's me and then Sammy and Teddy. And

they are they would attest this. They're

they're all funnier than me.

>> And funny mom. My mom is very funny.

>> You're very close to your mom. Yes. And

your I love that your mom was like, "You

should go into comedy." Yeah. That

doesn't happen a lot where someone's mom

is like, "Think about comedy." SHE

>> Could you imagine if it didn't work out

and I was like, "LOOK WHAT YOU DID."

>> I WANTED TO BE AN ACCOUNTANT.

>> YEAH. YOU MADE ME go groundlings. Yeah.

She googled comedy class and was like,

"Go there."

>> So, what did she do for a job? She

worked at Adobe.

>> Mhm.

>> And worked her way up. Software and

worked her way up. Like didn't go to

college. Single mom, four children.

>> Dang.

>> At my age now.

>> What?

>> What?

>> It doesn't make sense.

>> No.

>> Wow.

>> Yeah. And so for her to do that, I mean,

all four of us have unique talents. Like

we're all like my sister has a hair

salon. My little sister is a tattoo

artist. Like my little brother's a great

screenwriter, also working as a nurse,

but he writes these movies. Like he like

everyone and she just watered those

plants. She wasn't trying to make you

not do it. She wasn't trying to go. No,

go do this, Ashley. Go play football or

whatever your parents make you do.

>> Yeah. Go play football.

>> I got lucky.

>> She didn't make me do that.

>> We all kind of learn by people modeling

for us. What did you learn about work by

watching your mom work so hard? that she

could uh she was just a hustler. She

still is. She's just a hustler. Like

even at Adobe, working her way up at

that company, you know, she she became

an executive producer of like the live

events. So when we would go I did hair

and makeup for a long time. That's how I

would make money. And she would hire me

to do hair and makeup, me and my sister,

>> and at these big events. And you see

you're on the headset. and she's like

and I was like what a

powerhouse like she just

>> knew what she wanted and like was like

and all these like love everyone that

works there a lot of men and she's like

the one telling and like producing and

it was just so cool and I do think it

influenced me and also her saying go do

this like you can do it

>> but I just never had any fear I never

wondered if I was too small for the

world or like that never crossed my

She was such a great example of that.

>> So cool.

>> I mean, she says, "Okay, let's look up

comedy clubs."

>> Yeah.

>> And

it could have ended so badly. It's so

crazy. And

>> she's like, "You and I are going to a

comedy club and you're going to do

comedy for your mother."

>> It's crazy.

>> Did you think that you were this was

going to be your job?

>> No way. I was so No way. No way. No. And

I I was so scared

for life. Like I was I didn't go to

college. I went for a week at community

college.

I left on a Friday. I went on a Monday,

left on a Friday.

>> Like I like I left something in my car.

I'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

>> OH MY GOD. I WISH I SHOULD HAVE DONE

THAT. INSTEAD, I pull aside.

>> Oh, you're

>> a teacher. Sure.

>> I'm not in charge of that.

>> I go, let me talk to you. I pull him

aside and I'm like, I can't do this and

I don't know what I'm doing. And he was

like, so you need to go to the

administration. You don't I'm teaching

biology or whatever. And I sobbed him

and I said, I just can't do this. Isn't

for me.

>> Because I was sitting there going, I

just got out of this. I just got out of

high school

>> that I hated. And

>> what kind of student were you?

>> Oh, awful.

>> I'm I'm shocked.

>> Awful.

>> I'm shocked. You see, you're so smart.

I'm shocked that you were. But I had no

interest in anything they were putting

out with that.

>> You were like, "I'm never going to need

this."

>> I said, "When am I going to need this?

>> You tell me and I will submit this

homework because tell me

>> I'm trying to figure out your Don't

worry, we'll cut this, Jenna. I'm trying

to figure out your anagram number, your

dis because you're such a This is very

challengery."

>> Wait, what?

>> Well, but not being a good student.

>> Bad girl. Not just not being a good

student.

>> Bad girl.

>> Tell me more. What do you mean? How did

you get in trouble?

>> ARRESTED.

>> NO. FINALLY, we got to it.

>> She's got a record. Talk to me, Padilla.

>> Disorderly conduct. Was it some kind of

What was it? SHOPLIFTING.

>> OKAY. HERE'S WHAT I WAS charged with.

Okay.

Obstruction of justice. Resisting

arrest.

>> So cool. My mother pulling in as I'm

cuffed on the cop car. Cuffed on top of

the cop car. She pulls in. Single mother

pulls in in HER BOYFRIEND'S TRUCK.

>> IS THAT STILL ON?

>> One second. She gets out and she's

looking at me like

talking to the cop and he's like, "So,

we found her in the rose bush."

My extensions crazy. I've got my like

flip phone thing with a keyboard and I'm

like my mom's my mom's here. These cops

basically I was like leave I was like

running from a party.

>> That's what I mean. Like from a party

>> but there had been a hit and run down

the way.

>> Oh,

>> and me and I can't say his name. I had

my fake Chanel. He had my fake Chanel.

>> Mhm.

>> Oh my god.

>> Did they care that it was fake? Did they

get you? That's why I got arrested.

Girl,

get over here. No, they they arrested me

because I hid in a rose bush for I think

4 hours.

>> And when they pulled me out, I said I

said and they wrote this down. They

wrote this down. It was in the police

report. I said, "It's about time you

caught me."

>> Ashley,

>> for who? What is that for?

>> I love that.

>> What is that for?

>> Was I on camera?

>> I mean,

>> what? Cuz you know what? Cuz but you

doubled down cuz you were like you were

nervous

>> and you were like, I'm going to go extra

cocky. I can relate.

>> I can

tube top hair. 16. About time.

>> So 16. It's about time you guys caught

me.

>> It's about time you CALL

ME.

THEY CUFFED ME.

>> DANG.

>> They cuffed me and I was like, "Please

uncuff me before my mother gets here."

And they were like, "Fine." And they

like, "Unccuff me." And I said, "How'd

you guys know that I was there?" And

they're like, "We had the place

surrounded." And this young boy who ran

with me had your fake Chanel.

>> What h Did he also get arrested?

>> Yes, he did.

>> He got arrested. And

>> so did you go to court? Were charges

dropped?

>> Well, this is where it gets interesting.

If it wasn't already, they were like,

"Because you're 16 or something, we're

not This can be removed from your

record."

>> Mhm.

>> If you go to courtordered therapy with

your mother

>> and your mother was like, "I'm busy."

>> Excuse me.

>> That's That's punishment for her. I she

had to sit there and I remember I love

you mom. She had these like red nails,

blonde hair. She's a working woman.

She's sitting there and the therapist

was like, "I want you guys to draw for

me." And my mom was like, "NO."

And she was like, "OKAY."

And I remember she like did it. She's

like flipping through a magazine like

I'm not doing that. And I drew something

and they said, "Draw yourself and draw a

house." That's what they said to do.

>> Wa.

>> And I drew a house and myself and I sh

not Amy. The woman says, "Now, why did

you draw yourself smaller than the

house?"

And I was like, "Because because

my mom's like

the clock is the CLOCK'S TICKING AND

DID DEEP DRYERS AND I was like to fit in

the house

and she's like

>> nom you feel small like it was like

crazy and I was like

that's incredible

>> and meanwhile I'm like my mom has to I'm

already in trouble and my little brother

had to come I don't know WHY HE WAS LIKE

I'LL DRAW TOO AND HE WAS DRAWING and he

drew a castle

with a man named Fred getting a

electrocuted on the on the side of the

castle and she said, "I'm going to keep

this one for the files." And my mom was

driving. I'm like, "Great. Now they're

going to take Teddy.

Now the court's going to take Teddy." It

was like,

"This is You were a bad."

>> She deserves an Oscar if that's what we

should give her. What is an Oscar for

being a mom? She had to deal with some

>> Okay. So then she was like, "Take some

take some of your comedy fun." She was

like, "Chan some of this into a a

professional experience."

>> Yes. Stop.

>> Okay. Stop.

>> Stop.

>> Stop.

>> And like I went and got a job at Sephora

and they gave me a job. I mean, I just

loved having a job that I actually

liked. I was probably just I was just in

bliss. And like there was a rule. you

had to like wear five articles of makeup

at the time.

>> So, I learned to do makeup. I became

like an educational manager. I was like

rising up like my mom did at her job. I

was like rising up and I didn't go to

college and I was like getting

responsibilities and then

>> So, you like to be the boss.

>> I like to get the most out of everything

>> and I think sometimes, especially in

worlds like that where there's like, you

know steps.

>> Yes. I just like being the best at

everything I'm doing. And not against

anyone else. I'm not trying to be better

than I'm just like, how much more can I

do?

>> Yes. You know,

>> that's why probably things like school,

you're like, uh, there's nowhere to grow

here.

>> There's nowhere to grow.

>> You're like, what's past an A?

>> And and what

what

I'm sorry I still I stand by that. I'm

like doing all of that. Oh my god. Yeah.

Unless you know what you're doing and I

I'm just go to school.

>> I don't know. I don't know if you

believe that.

>> I don't know if you believe that when

you say that.

>> I guess I'm just like

interested in it. Unless you're

interested in it because

>> Yeah.

>> to absorb information, you have to want

to know.

>> That's true.

>> Right. To retain the information

>> cuz you didn't do theater in high

school. No, I did one play because

during bad girl bad girl times I didn't

I didn't submit like you're supposed to

submit the the classes you want to take

and I just didn't do it. So there my

mom's phone ringing again. They're like

she didn't do this and so she had to

come down to the principal's office and

we had to like fill out a thing together

and they were like she was like what's

left and they're like theater. She was I

was like no please don't make me and I

did it. And I remember I I didn't even

tell anyone and I was like in what was

it called? The Emperor's New Clothes. Is

that what it's called?

>> I don't know. You were there.

>> I remember scouting in the audience.

>> Yeah. There's Yeah, I was in the

audience

>> and I got the role of like the lead like

princess and I like remember go like

floating down the aisle. I came from the

audience to the stage. Loved it then

pretended never happened. I was like

>> put that away. That's crazy.

Interesting.

>> Yeah.

>> So loved it when you got it. You were

like stepping into it. Here we go. So

you not so much introverted, very

extroverted.

>> Very extroverted, very loud, but just

Yeah. Not knowing you could make money

on it, I guess.

>> Yeah. Sure. I mean, you did you know

anyone who was an actor or

>> No.

>> Yeah.

>> No. And then, you know, you get to I I

worked at Sephora and then my my

longtime my like high school boyfriend

who I love, he's the best, we broke up

and I I became so depressed and there I

was with money,

>> right?

>> An apartment. I did the thing. I I very

quickly did the thing that like

>> you're supposed to do, you know,

>> and when I saw it didn't make me happy,

I was miserable. and now I don't have

this boyfriend and I just felt so sad

and my mom was like, "What if you try

you're funny. What if you tried this

thing?" Because I'd made it to the top

at at Sephora in the way that I could

and like

>> I just Yeah. I felt so unhappy. And

there was this quiet little voice in

there that was like wanting something

more, but I didn't know what it was. And

so I felt

>> awful about myself. You're almost just

like something's wrong with me. Like

nothing's satisfying me. M.

>> And then my mom said that and then I I

went.

>> You find your people at Groundlings.

>> Yeah.

>> And for people that don't know who, you

know, Groundlings, it's an improv and

sketch group and uh hugely influential

for so many people like incredible alum

came out of there. What were you doing

for money when you were taking classes?

Were you waiting tables?

>> Makeup and working. Yeah. In

restaurants. Yeah. I was doing weddings

and

>> and makeup jobs and I did like music

videos or like just like I I did this I

forget who the artist was. I can't even

say

>> they paid me like cold art cash just

like a thing of cash.

>> And when I first got to LA I mean it was

just

>> just whatever you

>> just whatever I could do.

>> Yeah.

>> When I first got to LA I got a job at

the Church Key. It was like this

Americanstyle dimsum place

>> and I had to dress up as a Panam

stewartist

with a little hat, a little outfit and

heels. And I once came in with flats and

they were like, "No, no, no, no, no."

They're like, "Honey,

>> go to your car or find something." And I

had to go buy heels. And I came back and

I pushed around a dim sum cart that

where I made liquid nitrogen alcoholic

otter pops.

So I take the otter pop. Which one would

you like? Put it in the thing. Pour

liquid nitrogen. No gloves cuz they want

you to look good. Burning myself.

Burning myself. And I'm I think I was 20

because I remember they like let me do

it maybe.

So, you go to Groundlings. How do you

get the audition for SNL?

>> I I'd been working for for Diane Keaton

actually for a long time.

>> Okay. So, let's talk about Diane.

>> Yeah.

>> So, you were her assistant.

>> Yeah.

>> And where how did you two meet? How did

you get that job? When I moved to LA, my

mother's friend's sister was her main

assistant

>> and was like, "Let's grab coffee." And

we had a coffee and her name's

Stephanie. She's the best. She's taught

me everything. Her and Diane have taught

me so much. It is

>> crazy.

I can't believe it. Even looking back,

like even just down to like getting me

my first real purse, you know? I have a

fake sh like I love I love fashion all

that stuff and they just they're just

the best and like

>> they just taught me so much and

>> um

>> I meet with her and she goes you know

we're always looking for someone to do

errands and all that stuff and

>> at the time I didn't you know Diane

Katon I knew her as the mom from family

stone

>> right

>> I did not watch Annie Hall I had not

seen the Godfather and all that she made

me watch those movies she did she said

you haven't seen Annie Hall you're going

to go home and you're going to watch it

and tell me what do you think? And I did

and I watched The Godfather. She asked

me what I thought. She was so incredible

and it really did start as like a small

job just like come and you know help at

this party and I did and I remember them

sort of like chatting like what are you

going to do and then and then she was

like well what about you know her does

she does she is she working and so I did

I took on that job and it started with

the kids and then it turned into like oh

well can you run Diane's Instagram and I

was like okay and then that turned into

well you got to you know spend time with

Diane you guys got to look at videos and

make stuff for her Instagram and then it

just all snowballed and slowly it it

became my whole life at a time

>> like

reading scripts and and working on

projects and we eventually sold a book

together and

>> Okay. So when you're when you're running

her Instagram which was often in all

caps

>> Yes. Was that her writing? Okay.

>> Yes. She was like, "Make sure that's

>> in caps."

>> Yelling at the audience.

>> It's so funny because it's it's it's so

crazy how quickly it became my own like,

"All right, yes, that's like like it was

normal."

>> Yeah.

>> It She's so special.

>> She is. She's really one in a million.

She's so original. Like she had this

thing that How would you describe How

would you describe that thing? She had

that's like

>> magic.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. It's freaky.

>> It was so delightful and playful and

eccentric isn't really quite the right

word. It was just like very very

original how she moved through life.

>> Very special. She just floated around

like a butterfly. She was like a

butterfly. And she really was. Even

working with her, she was like, "Look at

this." Like she taught me to see the

world around me.

>> The shapes, as silly as that sounds,

she'd go, "Look at the building." She'd

stop. She'd pull over. Do you see this?

My god, the tree. The way the light

comes. She got me to like

>> notice everything as if I was with a

child. It's so crazy. It was wonder like

a child that she kept into her 70s.

>> Yeah.

>> And that's what's rare. It's not that

>> she was any different than anybody else.

She was just willing to to to stick with

that and keep that wonder that goes away

at some point because it taught me that

it was even going away in myself

>> because she brought it back and now I

see those things. I stop and I go, "Oh

my god, I love the way that that shape

is." And like those are that's my daily

life now because of her

>> and I see pictures and I love images and

even making the book with her like you

know every page and every image and like

what's better and why does this need to

be black and white and and not have

color why do you like this contrast and

it's like

>> it's such a gift. It's crazy. It's like

school. That's the school, right? That's

the stuff that I'm going holy I'm

retaining everything.

>> Wow. And and what what book did you make

together? What what was that?

>> Fashion first because her and I have a

love for collaging and pictures and she

got me into that. And we tried to sell a

collage book

that no one was interested in. I mean,

I'm going it's it's Diane Katon.

Everyone's like, you're crazy if you

think we are making this book because no

one's going to buy it. and the just

getting the rights for the images would

be crazy because the mouth belongs to

someone else and the eyes and we're

going make it happen and she was so

pissed that no one wanted to make this

but as I was doing research for that

book I went oh hold on now why don't you

have a fashion book and I showed her all

of the images I brought I came to work

one day I remember I was so nervous and

Stephanie kind of gave me this she's

like show her this

>> cuz Stephanie had been kind of trying to

tell her for a long time to do this

thing and I came with images because

that's her language

And I was like, "Look at all of your

outfits. Look at everything you've done.

Look at you know what I mean?" And when

I showed her all of them, she went,

"Okay, this is good."

>> And we pitched like, "Okay, I I am very

stylish."

>> That's when we showed Ritzulli. And then

that's when they were like, "All right,

we'll we'll make this."

>> Yeah. I couldn't believe she let me

design it. She let me design the cover.

She let me design the book. She let me

do everything. And I went, "But I've

never made a book before." And she's

like, "You you will figure it out."

>> So cool.

>> She had no doubt.

>> Yes. weird.

>> How amazing.

>> I know.

>> What a loss.

>> She's so special.

>> Yeah.

>> And she she really cared about me. She

would come to grounding shows when like

why were you there

>> going to college?

>> I always said to her, I said,

"You shouldn't come to this."

>> Yeah.

>> And I mean it.

>> Yeah.

>> And she was like, "I'm coming

>> and I'm going to wear a tutu and a big

old hat." Y

>> and I said I even said the first time

she came I said please you know I just

don't want you to get mobbed is what it

was. I I just felt like I also kept the

two very separate right you're being a

struggling comedian.

>> Mhm.

>> You know

>> and then I go to this icon's house. I

was living a double life.

>> Yeah.

>> And then when the two would come

together I remember she was like I'll

lay low. I'll lay low. And I was like

okay great. I'm looking through the

thing when she arrives and she's in the

biggest tutu and biggest. Excuse me.

Excuse me. Getting her tutu is getting

on people. Excuse me. Excuse me. AND

EVERY TIME SHE'S LAUGHING. YES.

Every sketch.

>> I mean, she really was a fairy godmother

and she dressed like a fairy godmother.

>> She dressed like a fairy godmother. She

was fairy god and I was just like and

everyone backstage Diane Kings. I know

she's here. So she helped you get the

audition. She like she encouraged you to

audition. She basically believed that

you could do it and therefore

>> she believed I could do it. But I will

say I mean everyone believed in me but

but nothing was happening and so I was

going to quit.

>> Yeah. Talk talk to me about that. You

were just you were thinking

>> tired.

>> Yeah. It had been I mean like you said

you're like you came into SNL kind of

fully formed but it's because I I I

respect what people are doing online

with the comedy.

>> I'm not good at that. And so every time

the opportunity came up it was like well

do something online do frontfacing

comedy. Do all that. I resisted the urge

because it just wasn't for me. And I

went well if that's not for me I kind of

associated it with well then I guess I'm

not willing to

>> do the work which wasn't true. I was

always doing the work. I was doing live

shows. Just who's in the audience? Not,

you know,

>> no one that can really make a career for

you.

>> No guffman's.

>> There's there's no Guffman.

>> Where's the Gman?

>> Where's Guffman? We're waiting.

>> So I

I just felt

tired and I was like, "Fuck this." I I I

decided I I was more willing to decide

to live my life.

>> Yeah. I was like, I'm done. I'm done

with the will I get the will I

>> I just made a book. I was like,

>> there's other ways to make money and be

creative. That's what she taught me. And

>> I was like, I'm done. I'm just

done. I'll figure out something else. I

just want to be happy. And and that does

not lie in waiting to see if this

commercial

is going to call me after pinning me.

You know what I mean? Like I was like,

"No, I'm just done." And that's when,

you know, Naomi Odenkirk, who is

>> Yeah. Bob Odenkirk's wife, very famous

manager. She is unreal. She We went to

breakfast and she was like, "What are

you do?" Like, "What have you been

doing? You're like traveling with

Diane." Like, "What is your life?" Like,

and I'm like, "I guess I just I'm like

>> I don't know. Like, I'm just not doing

it anymore." I guess like I don't want

to perform live any losing that interest

because I hit my

>> I hit the ceiling of what I could do,

right?

>> I made Maine. I like did everything. And

it was just like, "All right, I guess

this is this path is done. I love

performing, but this is no longer

serving me to become a better person

within myself.

>> I felt stunted. And then she said,

"Well, let me try one more thing and

let's do this Party of Three show, which

was me, Chris Clner, and Alex Bonifer."

She's like, "We'll do your best stuff."

Cuz I didn't want to do it alone. And

she was like, "Pick your friends.

They're dear friends." And we're always

in each other's stuff. So, we did a

show. And then that kind of caught some

momentum. And then we were in Netflix as

a joke. And then it was SNL wants you to

showcase and I was I was like okay and

they came to party of three and then

they asked me to showcase after the

show. So I performed they just see me

and then I ran over to UCB Franklin

>> and did it.

>> What impressions did you do?

>> Oh god.

>> I know.

>> I did Diane. I did Diane actually

because I was like I don't do

impressions. Who am I around the most?

Diane. And she's so funny. I did her

like voice over. I did like her doing a

voice over for like planet Earth where

she's just yelling that they're hurting

each other cuz she's so they're hurting

each other. Um she's just so funny and

that was an easy one. And then oh my god

I don't even know what else I did. I I

I'm not good at impressions and that's

something that I've always been like

well then I guess I'm not good for SNL.

>> I know. Isn't it funny because it's I

I'm not good at impressions either. And

if and it's like you it's a weird thing

where someone's like so just also I

guess it would be like if you're

applying for a job and they're like also

just do a little bit of um painting you

know

>> 100%

>> just just also you just have to do three

paintings.

>> You're my lawyer. I just need you to do

three paintings.

>> Just three.

>> You're like okay I'll do I'll do the

best I can at painting

>> and do it at the opening before you even

go into your lawyering. Do the cold

open.

>> Do the paintings first before we talk

about lawyering. And on your way to um

doing the painting, walk past

40 people who are really good at

painting.

>> Really good at painting.

>> Make sure you take a look at their

photos.

>> That makes me feel so much better

because I I made the mistake of thinking

once I got the show that they were like,

"Surely they're not going to ask me. I'm

bad at it." No, they're going to ask you

and they're going to ask you a lot.

They're going to tell you.

>> What have you done? What have you What

political impressions have you done on

the show?

>> We shouldn't call them impressions.

>> We just shouldn't label it as an

impression. Okay. Political characters.

Who have you played?

>> I did Christy Gnome.

>> Oh, yeah. Christy Gnome. That's right.

>> I did Pam Bondie. Who you

>> both of them?

>> Both of them.

>> I watched yours. I know. I know. I know.

And then I did Caroline Levit. All of

them just

>> Yeah.

>> Not even scraping the surface of what

>> I watched you and Tina cuz I had I did.

You both did it and then you had to go

and do both of them.

>> I had to go do both of them and just

more iconic women, cooler women from the

show did it and then and then me and I

was like,

>> "Oh my god."

>> I was like, "Why are you guys making me

do this?" And I was like, "Can you give

me come back?"

>> That was like when that was like when

Forte had to do Bush um after Will

>> Frell. It's so not fair.

>> Um Okay. But did you bring any

Groundlings characters to SNL?

>> Oh, yeah. I did. I did my haircut uh

sketch.

>> You did for your audition?

>> Oh, yeah. That was

>> Oh, that's cool.

>> Yeah, I did haircut. I did

>> that sketch.

>> I did Kathy a bit. I did this woman

Kathy for

um Jack Black, but she sort of changed

because that's what's been interesting

is that I brought so much to the show

like came in like I've got all this

stuff and then you realize it's just

such a different medium even though

they're both sketch. You got to be a

little punchier. You need to like

>> Well, it's funny you say that because so

we do this thing on the show where we

talk to somebody who knows our guest so

we can talk well behind their back and

we talked to Andrew today. Andrew

dismiss.

>> He was in his hotel room.

>> That is so sweet.

>> Drinking black coffee.

>> I think we're drinking a whiskey or

something.

>> Drinking whiskey out of

>> He's drinking badly.

>> He's doing badly.

>> Yeah. And he's We're very worried about

him.

>> So, he asked you for some money.

>> Yep.

>> And it was really appropriate.

>> Great.

>> Um, no, he had just done a show. He was

we he was drinking black coffee in a

hotel room and we were talking about you

and he is so lovely and and works so

hard on that show and loves working with

you.

>> He's the best.

>> And his question for you was what at

Groundlings helps you prepare for SNL

because we were kind of joking that like

it in many ways it feels like a mini SNL

camp there like people get really

prepared but you're saying that it also

it did and it didn't. What did it do to

help you to get ready for the show? And

>> I mean, it forces you to write for

yourself. if there is anything I could

ever tell like

young comedians but also just like young

women because

>> especially for myself like I mean gosh

even Diane I mean like the scripts she

was getting versus what I knew she was

capable of sometime like just like the

writing for women sometimes bothers me

in a way that I cannot

>> let's talk about it for a second what

what bothers you because I I I know what

you mean. It's like

>> I just feel like sometimes we're not as

portrayed as

>> complex.

>> Yes. I was going to say aggressively

because I'm like we're just we got

going on. It's complex. It's deep. It's

it's so nuanced. It's like I have so

many things about me that I want to see

on screen and and in comedy and and

>> and I do wonder sometimes if um to get

there, we just need to be a little more

willing to write for ourselves. And

that's what that's what Groundlings did

for me was you do not get on that stage

unless

>> you are writing something for yourself.

>> Yeah.

>> I mean, you might be in some people's

stuff maybe, but like it's the same at

SNL. It's like you can wait around all

day

>> for someone to write something for you

or you can just write it yourself,

>> right?

>> And I feel that way with movies as well.

Like I'm so lucky to be now like getting

to do movies, but I'm still writing. I

am writing so much and I will never stop

because I have to speak for myself,

>> right? And it just creates this

confidence and that's what it prepared

me for was showing up and going all

right none of these writers know who I

am right

>> and nor should they've got their own

they have to write the cold like

they're doing stuff they're busy

>> they're busy they're writing for Amy

Polar like it's like they've got a host

they're not going what is Ashley like no

>> so then I went all right then I'm going

to write and then that's what makes

people want to work with you

>> is they're like okay she knows what she

wants to do and that's where it's my

gosh like Allison Gates Kent sublet like

showing up and helping me make it more

SNL more for television. It's got to be

a little punchier. It's got to be

choppy. It's got to like the cuts camera

cuts and like

>> you can't do what you do at Groundlings

where I can linger because there's no

time constraint. It's like we got to get

to But, you know, you have an

interesting quality that's really

awesome to watch, which is you do not

rush and you take your time and you have

great timing and it it's thrilling

because we all know the construct of

that show. There's like just not a lot

of time. And so, the luxury of having a

little bit of time, taking a little

time, it it's it feels transgressive.

And when it's done by somebody who knows

what they're doing, it's really fun.

>> It is my favorite thing to do. I will

it's like my my it's just so like I

remember even with the haircut sketch

there was a talk about cutting stuff and

the first thing to go is you know those

pauses at the be well let's just cut

your entrance

>> please let me have that

>> because I need to say hi to the audience

real quick

>> in a way that's like let me show you

what I'm feeling

>> and then we'll get into it because I

like watching people behave

>> and to behave

It's not rushed to feel nervous or

anxious or embarrassed. Being

embarrassed takes a little time. It's

like that feeling.

>> It's just I love it. And it like

>> And then now they're on your side. I

hope it because they're in on the joke

with you.

>> Yeah.

>> You know, and then those other jokes

pop. That's that like song that I like

to play is like

>> it's just a bit of a dance. I like it.

God, it's so true about behavior because

we don't really often remember what

sketches are about. Like the idea is

like what? I don't even remember the

idea like someone's mad at someone about

whatever. It's these like little human

behavior moments that are so funny and

weird. You're so good at them. I mean,

that sketch there the there's a sketch

where you are surprised by your

co-workers uh for your birthday and you

fart.

>> Yes,

>> you fart. I couldn't believe that got on

television. That was put on TVs.

>> That's right. It's on TV forever. And

>> saw that.

>> Your moaning after

>> we

like in terms of the the real estate of

the sketch, it takes up a lot of time.

>> Oh yeah.

>> Your reaction to like what did I do?

What just happened? How am I going to

get through this? is all conveyed in

like a a like 20 maybe 25 seconds of

moaning

>> and that was not really in rehearsal.

That's where I want you to apologize to

everyone is I something took over there

and that's where the audience is like

I'm sure you felt this. I mean it's why

we love live is like you can rehearse

something all day but until you're in

front of a crowd and know what they are

going to give you. They loved the fart.

So I went, "Well, Let's sit.

Here we go.

>> Here. Let's sit in the pain of this."

I love arrogance. Oh my. What is

funnier?

>> Me, too.

>> What is funnier than someone being like,

"Happy guys, I farted.

>> What you guys wanted?" What is

>> I totally I also

>> played a character who very it was very

cocky about the fact that she farted and

was like she accused people of being

jealous.

>> There was a show called Rock of Love

which was like a dating show and I

played a onelegged character who farted

when she jumped around.

>> Okay, sure.

And she was like, "So I farted jealous."

>> She said, "Jalous." And I'm almost like,

"No, we're not jealous." And the

>> epitome of why I want to do comedy.

>> I know. And it would be so fun to do

hopping around on one leg being like

>> cuz I was I She considered herself a

real catch. And you know what? That's

all it takes.

>> That's also my favorite is when

someone's like, "You want to fuck?"

>> NO.

>> You want some of this?

>> No.

>> Totally. I love that. None of it.

>> That is fantastic.

>> You and Andrew work so well together. By

the way,

>> he does this. He's what we're talking

about. I mean, his stuff is grounded in

Yeah.

>> realism. Like he's like

>> And he a lot for the show.

>> That's all he's he's got a very clear

voice.

>> Yeah.

>> And do you feel like starting you

started at the 50th year, was it weird

50th season, was it weird to start with

like every person coming back all the

time? I

and mind you, no one knew who I was.

Like like Emil and Jane are so proactive

with their careers that they had a

following. They were coming in, you

know, they had fans to watch them.

People tuning in were going, who is this

woman?

>> What is she doing?

>> And I was going, I don't know. I don't

know. And then I would sit in my dress

room and I was like, oh man, who hired

me? Do they know I'm here? And then to

the point where when I came back for

this last season, I was sitting in my

dressing room the whole first show, not

in a single thing.

>> Oh yeah. Okay.

>> And then I did my sketch last sketch of

the show.

>> Mhm.

>> And which is often the best one.

>> It can be. It's sort of like a Hail

Mary. It's like Yeah. There there I do.

I did love that slot. And it the the

more you get on the show, the less you

get that slot sometimes, which I do.

That slot is fun.

>> Yeah. And I also want to talk to you

about your haircut.

Oh okay.

Okay.

>> Because it's such a bold move to cut

your hair in the middle of a season.

>> I think they'd all say that, too.

>> Did you have to get Did you have to get

permission? Like, I mean, you're

>> It's unfair what I did to these. It's

unfair.

>> You begged for forgiveness. You did not

ask for permission. You just

>> I went shorter than I said I was going.

>> What's your relationship with Lauren?

>> I just really really admire him. M I

just think he's so smart and I can't

believe someone was put on this earth to

give people like you and I I don't know

if you think this but like being funny

is so insane. Like it's just like what

are you here for?

You make us I don't know. NOT TO

DIMINISH, but it's like at the end of

the day, it's like

>> I believe me, it's like I mean it's it's

so funny.

>> I mean, there are really important jobs

in the world and then we're like

jealous.

>> I'll take my money now.

>> Totally. You're like I mean I I It's

true. Like we should be on the cop car

waiting for our moms to pick us up. It

is sick what we do.

>> It's sick. It's so true.

>> It's not okay.

>> And we treat it very and people treat

like it's very important. And

>> you cut the second fart.

>> I can't cut the second fart. THE SECOND

FART MAKES THE third fart work.

>> Not on my desk by midnight.

That's why when you watch shows about

people making comedy, it makes me laugh

so hard cuz it is so serious. Everyone,

but it is

>> taking stuff seriously. That's what we

love. But to go back to it's like Lauren

found a way to give those people jobs.

You gave us a place to work.

>> Mhm.

>> Holy hell.

>> But let me get back to your haircut.

Sorry, long thing. But you cut your

hair. Incredible. Looks incredible.

>> Hey, thank you.

>> Do you love having short hair?

>> Oh, yeah. I've had it before. That's

where the haircut sketch came from. Was

me shaving it too short

>> and pretending I liked it and that it

was what I meant to do. And I was like,

this is a buzz. This is good.

>> I'm kind of obsessed. The politics of

hair. Like hair means something on the

show.

>> That's why I shaved it. Or I mean

originally.

>> Really? Why? What do you mean?

>> Because I don't like being told what is

feminine.

>> Do you know what I mean? And there's

something inherently like

like long hair is it's like no what's no

when do I feel the prettiest because

people whenever they meet your hair is

so beautiful it's so long it's like

>> I don't really want that to be the first

thing you think it was like sw I like to

be open and fresh and like vulnerable.

It makes me feel vulnerable because I

can't hide

>> and like I like feeling open and like

you can see my face and I was I was

wearing so many wigs and yeah it just

feels a little like I don't know do like

not do it's like

>> well you have an interesting play with

mask and fem stuff in the way you dress

too and Diane of course is like totally

>> that kind of like what is your

relationship to like

>> what is typically masculine or typically

feminine? Would you do you like to play

around with that?

>> Yes. And it's crazy how much of an

influence Diane was on that because

making the fashion book, we we have a

photo together where we're wearing the

same exact outfit cuz I showed up to

work dressed like her, not even

realizing it. And we took a picture and

when I went into her office the next

day, it was framed. She printed it out

and framed it. And it's this image. I'm

like, "Holy you taught me that

like I don't have to be in this world

for a man's approval, which is something

I think I was doing for a long time."

And that's that's so sad to say it out

loud, but it's just the truth. I don't

know if it's the,

>> you know,

>> well, welcome to the

>> father issues. I mean, like, right,

>> patriarchy, right?

I was always like, "Oh my god,

vulnerable to take my makeup off and

like

>> have my hair done and

>> be hot."

>> Yeah.

>> So what

>> to by the way?

>> For who?

>> To who?

>> To who?

>> And for how long?

>> For how long?

>> FOR HOW LONG? Because mama tie tie. I

have to go to bed. Tie tight. Done.

Done.

>> Seriously.

off.

you. I'm done.

>> And hotter than ever though, Ash.

>> Okay, honey.

>> Hotter. I mean, it looks incredible.

>> Okay. Thank you.

>> It's funny cuz I feel hotter.

>> Yeah.

>> Because I'm myself. Mhm.

>> I mean, I told Jod Jod was like

>> Jod Manuso who runs the SNL hair

department who the who Bronx speed is

bas based on

>> weather and I said to her she was like

your hair's pretty she and she's the

best. I mean she was so supportive and

she was like

>> you know

she didn't know what I looked like with

short hair. So she's going what are you

talking about? You want to chop all your

hair off?

>> Yeah.

>> And I'm like I finally got so dramatic.

This is what's funny right in the world.

I went, "My soul says I have to do

this." She's probably like, "Just do it,

idiot."

God, stop texting me. I was like,

"Please." She was like, "Do it.

>> Do it."

>> And I feel amaz because it's also the

thing you're saying maybe with the

challenge. It's like permission. It was

the permission part too.

>> Yeah.

>> I think it's really interesting and I

think it's very cool. It just goes to

show it liberating. And also just

getting back to the initial theme of of

you is that you have a you you have a

like you're you're self-possessed in a

way that's very inviting. It doesn't

feel like you're an island and no one

can know you or interact with you know

>> it's really really but but there's just

something about you that feels like you

kind of have a sense of who you are and

what you like and you write that way,

you perform that way and it's really

intoxicating to be around. You're

welcome. And so we're going to end with

uh impressions

>> down to camera.

>> No.

>> Do 10 impressions. How many seconds?

>> BUT YOU KNOW WHAT WE USED to do? We used

to play a game. We used to play a game

where you had to do an impression of

somebody.

>> Why are you doing this to me

>> in 10 seconds or you die?

>> She didn't kill me legally.

>> So

>> is that THE PAPERWORK I SIGNED ON THE

WAY IN?

>> YEP.

>> So you will give each other someone to

do.

>> Are you serious?

>> And Yes. And you have to do it. It does

not have to be good. Only a five second

impersonation.

>> You said 10.

>> Oh, I said 10. Okay.

You're like five. Five.

>> Okay.

>> Okay. 5-second impersonation of And I'll

just throw out a name and then you can

throw it out for me.

>> It's really fun. It's really fun. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Let me think.

>> Okay. Ready? And you can't think You

can't think about it. You just have to

go. Doesn't matter.

>> Sure.

>> Austin Butler.

>> Here we go. Oh, we got him. We got him.

>> I

think

Should I bring him to the show? Should I

do it? Should I bring it to season 3?

>> Okay, give me one.

>> Season three, I called it cuz it's my

season three.

>> It's your season.

>> 53. That was disrespectful. 53. Um, Joan

Cuzak.

Oh, hey you guys.

>> Okay. OKAY. READY?

>> WE'RE JUST doing voices.

>> Here we go. One, two, three.

>> Ready, Shakira?

>> You nailed it,

>> right? SHAKIRA.

>> OKAY.

>> All right. Give me one.

>> Um, you I'm I'm going to die. You have

to give ME ONE. 10 SECONDS. 10.

>> TOMMY LEE JONES.

>> NO. OH, TOMMY.

>> UH, YEAH. You're going to get in an

outhouse, dog house, hen house.

Every outhouse. You better check every

outouse, dog house, hen house around

here. You got to catch the guy.

>> This isn't funny.

>> The fugitive. We're looking for the

fugitive.

>> That was him.

>> This isn't even funny anymore. So, you

do do impressions. YOU DID THIS TO

EMBARRASS ME.

>> I Trump go.

>> WHAT?

LITERALLY, the fact that I'm getting

fired from the show I'm on after this,

she can't do impressions.

What is that?

What? What?

>> Okay.

>> Oh my god.

That was good. There were those

were really good.

>> Thank you.

>> I think you could do

>> You know who I think you could do well

though is Laura Lenny.

>> I get that a lot.

>> You You sound a lot like Laura Lenny.

>> I get that a lot and I watch videos of

her because people have said that.

>> She's amazing. She

>> She is I mean she she's so like uh she's

so great. Let's do Laura Lenny

impersonation. You could do it. This one

you can do.

>> Oh, now I can't do it.

I just do again.

>> Okay, let's let's have Laura Lenny

talking about um

>> God, I just watched a video of her

>> of uh about her um drink like she just

she just had some delicious coffee.

>> I mean, I feel like it just went

delicious.

>> Oh my god. Oh my god.

Oh my god.

Oh my god.

Oh my god.

Oh my god. Oh, this coffee is so

delicious.

Oh. Oh god.

>> That was for you, Laura Lenny. Laura,

>> we love you.

>> Laura, we love you.

>> Oh my god.

>> Oh my god. Oh my god.

>> You made me cry.

>> Okay. Oh, I have to ask you one more

question. What are you listening to

these days? Watching, reading. What do

you do to like space out, check out,

laugh? I'm always taking suggestions

from people. Is there a video that you

frequent?

>> I am so big on like survivalist shows

like like to the point where me and

Allison Gates, we write a lot together.

>> Headwriter at SNL.

>> She's amazing.

We work outside of the show together as

well. And we were on a Zoom the other

day, supposed to be working, fully

supposed to be working. And we set that

aside to have a vulnerable conversation

about do we and talk to talk to our

teams and like really lay out the game

plan of if we want to go on Survivor

together. We are so serious about it in

a scary way that we need to stop talking

about it because both of us want it. So

we watch these shows and there is one

that I just got put on to called

Extraction. Have you heard of this? I

think I might have heard of it, but not

really. Tell me more.

>> I'm going to put you in the scenario.

>> I have a laptop and it's coming into

frame.

>> You in your head, pick two people that

you that you trust in love.

>> Okay, got it.

>> Now, picture that they're in a

headquarters.

You, Amy Polar, are put in the

wilderness.

>> Okay,

>> they can see you on screen. You can talk

to them and say, "I need food and

water." But you're fighting other

families in they're fighting other

families in the headquarters to get you

what you need because their loved one is

out in the wilderness, too.

>> Okay?

>> So, they're doing their own game and

you're going, "I need water." And

they're like, "We're try." They can't

talk to you. Only you can talk to them.

So, you're going every time you get a

box and there's nothing in it. You don't

know that they just played a game in

headquarters where they can't get you

water.

So, you're like, and then you go, "I

want to be extracted." And they can

decide if they want to pull you out or

not. Or they can leave you.

Please go on it with me.

>> Um,

>> it takes four months of our life.

>> Okay. I I have a couple questions about

this.

>> Yes.

>> It feels like you could just set rules

before which is like

>> they do.

>> So then they start crying and go, I know

I said

that when I said I wanted to be

extracted to to wait two days, but

please please get me out.

>> And then the family goes,

>> no, no. She said to wait two days. And

that was the conversation me and Austin

were having. I was like, "Do you want me

to extract you?"

And I was literally dead ser like I

don't know.

>> Whoa. It's a You have to watch

it. Two seasons and it's a new

>> Where is it on? It's on Oh, it's

>> I think I watched it.

>> There's also a movie called Extraction

by Chris Hemsworth.

>> Don't I mean watch that too if you want.

I haven't seen it.

>> Extraction TV show.

>> Yes. Extract.

>> Extracted.

>> Extracted.

>> Extracted.

>> Okay, let's just look at a um I just

want to look at a clip of it. God, it's

so good.

>> I have not had any food in six days.

>> I should have applied for the floor.

>> Roblo wouldn't do this to people.

>> Your objective is to choose which

survivalists receive crucial supplies.

>> Oh, some don't get supplies.

>> Some are without fire for weeks,

>> begging to go home. My child has not had

fire all week.

>> My morals aren't working.

>> My child has not had fire all week.

>> Cuz that's another thing, too. It's a

lot of mothers. So, they're like,

>> "My child,

>> my child

>> is a sleeping bag."

>> Ma'am, your child's 35.

>> Yes, that is a good point. They're all

in their 40s.

>> Ma'am. Ma'am.

>> Ma'am. Ex Oh, and then they have a Oh,

this is satisfying. They have a giant

button.

>> A giant extract button. And they have to

go hit it in front of everyone. It's

fair. Ashley, you're amazing.

>> Thank you for doing this. This was so

funny.

>> You're the best. I see why people laugh.

Impressions. So funny.

>> You're so funny.

>> You're so good at impressions.

>> You were so good at impressions.

>> We were so good.

>> Thank you so much, Ashley. That was so

fun and so funny and it's just a joy to

talk to you and get to know you more.

And um you know, Ashley talked a lot

about one of her mentors, Diane Keaton,

her fairy godmother. And I just feel for

this polar plunge, I want to remind us

all of some of the many great films that

Diane made. Check out Marvin's Room. If

you haven't seen that, it's so good. And

Merryill Streep is in it and a young

Leonardo DiCaprio. And it's such good

acting. Uh Reds, an incredible movie

with Warren Batty. It's beautiful

performance from Diane. Um, Crimes of

the Heart, Space, Jessica Lang. I

mean just

Diane, we miss you. Thank you Ashley for

that fun talk. Thank you so much for

listening today and we'll see you soon.

You've been listening to Good Hang. The

executive producers for this show are

Bill Simmons, Jenna Weissber, and me,

Amy Polar. The show is produced by The

Ringer and Paperkite. For the Ringer

production by Jack Wilson, Cat Spalain,

Kaia McMullen, Alia Xanerys, Bridget

Gearlings, Paige Garberini, Bell Roman,

and Drew Vanstein Bergen. For Paperkite,

production by Sam Green, Joel Levelvel,

and Jenna Weiss Berman. Original music

by Amy Miles.