Transcript: Andrew Garfield on Good Hang with Amy Poehler

Hello everyone and welcome to another

episode of Good Hang. We have Andrew

Garfield on today. Andrew is just the

best, a real tenderoni and hilarious and

talented and and and star of film and

Broadway. And we are going to get into

so many things today. We're going to

talk about how Munich has the best felt.

We're gonna talk about having that

competitive spirit, especially when it

comes to board games. We're gonna talk

about being method, but not being a

jerk. And we're gonna talk about his new

movie, The Uprising, which is out now

and looks incredible, like all the stuff

that Andrew does. So, um, we're very,

very excited to get started, but we

always start our episodes by speaking to

somebody who knows our guest, who has

worked with our guest, has good things

to say about our guest behind their

back. And we're gonna talk to a legend,

Lynn Manuel Miranda. You know him from,

oh, I don't know, Hamilton and uh Moana

and the upcoming Warriors musical and

five other million things that he's won

10 EGOTs for. Lynn,

hi.

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All I ever wanted was a really good

>> Lynn.

>> Hi.

>> Hi.

I can't wait to get you into the stew.

>> Can I tell you I had a I had a nightmare

about that once.

>> You did?

>> I had a nightmare that like uh you

invited me on, but you didn't I could

tell you didn't really want me to be on.

Like someone had you and you were like,

"Come in, I guess." Oh,

>> that's making me nauseous.

>> Very unenthusiastic about it. You're

like, uh, sit down, I guess. And it

wasn't your usual set. It was just like

some apartment where I was like I was

like a pity guest.

>> Oh, that's giving everybody the chills

in here. So, that is a that is a proper

stress dream.

>> Woke up in a sweat. I can handle a lot

of things. I cannot handle not being a

good hang with you.

>> My god, I'm so sorry that I was that way

in your dream. in real life and we are

awake and I can't wait to get you in

here. I am such a fan of your work. Love

would love to talk to you and would be

so happy to be talking to you.

>> Oh my goodness gracious.

>> Yes. Yes. Yes. And so happy to be

talking to you today. Where are it looks

like you're in some kind of studio.

There's a piano behind you.

>> Yes. We uh we are in day two of our

workshop for uh our next musical

>> Warrior.

come out to play EA.

>> That's the one. Um, so Issa Davis and I

are here uh in the room. There are

actors learning songs in the next room.

>> There must be no better feeling than

like working with the piano and like

hearing people sing in the other room

and just the workshopping of it all.

>> Yeah. Well, it's the it's the thing of

like other people. You get the solitude

of writing and then you also get to like

bring in a song and then people who sing

much better than you sound beautiful on

it and it's it's you know I had so much

fun with your episode with Grath who is

also like one of my closest friends

because just the joy off him is like

we're in the play. We get to be in the

school play and and we're all still

chasing that high as adults. Well, I

feel that way um you know uh about you,

Lynn. Like I feel I know that everybody

that works with you feels that way. Like

you're such a collaborator. You love the

process. You love making things better.

You know, you know, letting the best

idea win. Like you can feel that. And

also you're a fan. Um like you've never

stopped being a fan of the thing that

you're doing.

>> Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's it is I

mean it's why I had so much fun when I

was on SNL. was it's it's the school

play on steroids.

It's like a supercharged version of the

the the thing that got me hooked on this

art form of like we we get to make it

like and we get to make something bigger

than any of us could make alone, I

think, is is the big thing.

>> Yes. So well said. So well said. Um and

and you got to work with sweet Andrew

Garfield.

>> Sweet sweet Andrew Garfield.

>> First of all, congratulations on Tic Tac

Boom. What a beautiful film. It makes my

life that you even know what that is and

have seen it.

>> Of course. I loved the performance.

Loved your direction. What incredible

cast like can we talk about it just for

a second because I know it you know it

was it's personal material. Well, it's

also about a person's life who and and

Andrew is kind of actor who's played a

lot of real people as I've been looking

at his career and like could you imagine

even a a a more considerate and nicer

person to like take somebody's real life

into their hands? But can you just tell

me how did you guys come together to

make that? How did that uh how did that

happen?

>> Sure. I um I you know most of my um

familiarity with Andrew's work was

actually theater. like I was lucky

enough to see him in Death of a Salesman

with Philip Seymour Hoffman. Um, and he

was unreal in that. And then I uh I saw

him in Angels in America, both parts,

which is like it's a day, it's your day.

You know, you go to the mat to see part

one, you eat dinner, you see part two.

They're both three hours long. Um, and I

didn't know whether he had a musical

bone in his body, but it's such an

endurance test that play. And he was so

magnificent in it that I was just like,

"This guy can do anything." I just

thought, I don't know if he can sing,

but I think he can do anything.

>> Yeah.

>> Andrew and I had like exchanged an email

or two in our lives. He was a fan of

Hamilton. And so I um I said, "Can we go

out to like dinner before uh your

performance?" He was he was doing Angels

uh in on Broadway at the time. And I

took him out to sushi and I told him

about the movie we were working on and I

said, "Can you sing?" And he said, "Um,

when are you making this?" And I go,

"Not for a year." And he goes, "Then I

can sing."

>> Amazing.

>> And I was like, "Oh my god, I'm just

going to learn." Well, that well that's

kind of like the theme of what I want to

talk to him about today is like he works

very hard. He's a really hard worker and

takes I think a lot of um pride in that.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. He he wants the

work. He wants the the discipline and

like you have to be a monk to do eight

shows a week. Like you actually have to

like know when you're eating, know

exactly what you're putting in your body

so that you are at your peak at 700 p.m.

800 PM that night. He has played a monk.

and and like live like lives it like he

truly lives it

>> and you know how I feel about Broadway

absolutely too many shows I I've said

this

>> well to quote you in wed hot American

summer theater is now and it's you

>> that is true

>> which I watch maybe once a month I I

watch that speech to myself just

>> very obtuse

yeah makes perfect sense it's now and

it's you

>> yeah I mean you basically played me in

that me at 14 in that movie like guys

this is serious

and then you learn well you learn oh no

one wants to work with that person like

your job is to make the most fun room

possible so that people choose doing the

play over basketball over debate team

like no no actually this is the most fun

place to be not guys we're going to work

steps

>> story of my life story of my life which

is just like just chill out. Chill out.

>> Chill out. Just just pump the brakes on

whatever you're saying.

>> Okay. So, um do you have a question you

think I should ask Andrew today?

Anything big, small.

>> Well, my my qu Yeah, my question comes

with a a story, which is that um you

know, famously Andrew like learned to

sing like took a year and then came out

on the other end and was just like an

amazing singer for my movie. And there

was a a sequence we had to shoot that

was a swimming pool scene. Jonathan

Larson like would swim to get his ideas

and he wrote this great stream of

consciousness song and he gets the idea

while he's doing laps. And I, you know,

had three days in the actual pool Larson

swam in in the village and uh, you know,

had a stunt double for all of the like

complicated underwater photography. Had

a special underwater photographer. And

then I found out Andrew is basically

Michael Phelps. Like his dad is a swim

instructor.

>> That's right.

>> And Andrew swam better than my stunt

double. So my question is like one, what

are the other superpowers you have that

a director hasn't tapped yet?

>> Mhm.

>> And and one like what feels

>> like even too much of a challenge? Like

he learned to sing for me. He Martin

Scorsesi like threw him into the wild

like he's he's really taken on some I

think he gets very excited by the

challenges like what's one where what's

what's something that really scares him

that he would still probably do.

>> That's a great question and I think he's

going to love it because I think he's I

think he is very driven exactly by what

you said by the challenge of what to do

next and and uh yeah and I never know

what he's going to do next. It's always

really interesting. I mean that his new

film that's out is about a peasant

revolt.

>> Yeah. And then he goes from that to Sam

Alman. Like it's crazy.

>> I know. Crazy. Um well, Lynn, I loved

talking to you. I I think we're going to

have a very good time and not a scary

dream time when we see each other.

>> Thank you. I appreciate that.

>> And thanks for stepping away.

>> Absolutely. Have fun with Andrew. He's a

lovey lovey love.

>> Okay. Take care. Thanks again.

>> Awesome. Thanks. Bye.

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>> Andrew Garfield is here. We're talking

about smells. Do you feel like you have

a delicate Do you feel like you have a

sensitive nose?

Can you smell things?

I do. I feel like I'm a super smeller.

Do not

do not.

I bet you I bet you are sensitive to

smells.

I If I can't If I can't deal with smell

is my number one my number one sense.

I'm the best at it.

>> What do you think is your best of the

five senses? What is your best? What's

my best sense? What's my most

accomplished sense?

>> We've got smell.

>> We've got

>> Remind me of the others.

>> Okay, we've got smell. We've got

hearing.

>> Ah, yep.

>> We've got sight. We've got touch.

And what's the other one? Taste.

>> Oh, yeah. I always forget taste.

>> You got

>> I'm not I'm not going to be humble about

this.

>> Don't be. And

>> I don't And I don't mean to brag at the

same time. I'm kind of trying to be

neutral.

>> I love a brag.

>> I'd say touch.

J.

This is the BEGINNING OF THE WORST or

the best date ever.

But touch. So, do you Okay, let me ask

you a touch question

>> because I enjoy I enjoy I enjoy um I

like how things feel. Like I like the

texture.

>> You're a tactile.

>> I'm a tactile person as well. Yeah.

>> When you're shopping for clothes,

>> do you do what I do, which is you just

you go like this, you just go like this?

For real? If it's not soft, I'm not

interested.

>> No.

>> You go. You sniff it and then you touch

>> fabric.

>> Yeah.

>> You know what I love?

>> Yes.

>> Can I Can I tell you? Can I tell you

anyway?

>> Yes.

Felt.

>> I [ __ ] love felt.

>> [ __ ] hell.

>> What do we got?

>> Hold on. Stand.

>> Let me see if I can sniff out the felt.

>> I know where the felt is in this room.

I'm like a divining rod for felt.

>> Hold on. Okay. This is We're recording

in New York. I have more felt in LA.

>> But

>> yeah, LA is much more felt.

>> This is a This is a fake cheeseburger.

Open that up.

>> Oh my god.

>> This is a That's a hard felt.

>> It's It's a little hard. It's a little

hard.

>> This felt is not It's not M. It's It's

not Munich felt. I was just in Munich,

you know.

>> I told you I like felt.

>> Say more.

>> There's a There's a Munich Munich is

known for its felt making.

>> Cool.

>> That's all I got.

>> And it has like specific You can tell

>> felt. So, I was I was shooting in

Munich.

>> This is a great podcast story. I was

shooting in Munich.

>> Yes. And uh I didn't have much time on

my hands. I was shooting like intensely.

But the time I did have

>> Yeah.

>> was spent in the felt store.

>> I Were you playing somebody who had to

felt?

>> No, I was playing a peasant.

>> Right. This is this new movie, The

Uprising.

>> It's called The Uprising.

>> Um we want to talk about it and I want

to talk about the fact that you are Look

at you. You really do. Like touch is a

very important sense for you. Look at

you.

>> I would never lie to you about something

so vital. I sorry, but I just want to

indulge your touch fantasy here, which

is Look at this.

>> What do you got?

>> Another cheese.

>> This feels too hard for me.

>> Yeah. Sorry, that wasn't good.

>> Oo.

>> Give that a squeeze.

>> Oh, that's lovely.

>> That's what she said.

>> That's really lovely.

>> I'm really glad it doesn't squeak.

>> I'm glad it doesn't squeak cuz I'm an

adult. You know what I mean? I

>> You're a mature lady.

>> Mature dog. I don't need a dog toy.

>> I don't need to get excited by sounds in

the way that a dog might.

>> No. There's actually no worse feeling

than when you bring home a toy for a

child or a dog and you realize that it

squeaks. You're like, "Oh, [ __ ]

>> [ __ ] Why didn't I check that?"

>> Yeah.

>> Um, what's cool about this?

>> YEAH.

>> YEAH.

>> What's cool about this?

>> Smell it while you talk about

>> Never smelt it. It's not bad.

>> Kind of smells.

>> You know, sometimes these smell like

they come

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

>> You know,

>> you all know. You all know you guys. You

guys know how your fake cheeseburgers

sometimes smell in your office.

>> You know, um we uh Andrew Garfield is

here.

>> We're starting again.

>> That's all the time we have.

>> But you're talking about the uprising. I

want to talk to you about this because

everything I'm Okay. I've been thinking

about my theme for you.

>> Theme?

>> Yeah. About what to talk to you about

today cuz I feel like we could talk

forever and I love talking to you.

>> Me too. And

>> same I love this by the way. What you're

doing here is so beautiful and I'm like

it's about time there's another podcast.

>> Yeah there I know there wasn't enough.

>> Weirdly

like we have room for one more.

>> We just said one more and I was like

>> no but like if anyone should in this

world have a have this room.

>> Thank you for that. It's really fun.

>> Yeah man.

>> Really fun. And I've been paying

attention to as I've been thinking about

and prepping for today about your work

and your life and you and I'm fascinated

by your

>> love of hard work. You just love to work

hard.

>> Yeah, I do.

>> You love it.

>> You do too.

>> Yes. But not as much as I used to.

That's why I have a podcast. Maybe

sitting down with But your your work

ethic is really something. It's I'm It's

very admirable. I'm I know you you care

like your love language feels like it's

like acts of service. Like you do things

for people, right? I got you. I got you.

>> Funny. Yes. You were on your own.

>> Like that is how you show your passion

for stuff, your love for people

>> and how you show up in your work. And

you're always working so hard and in

everything you're doing. You're

training. You're starving. You're

learning how to sing this new movie. It

looks so hard.

Looks so cold and dirty and hard.

And that's all. I just want you to just

take it. I want to talk to you.

>> Take it easy. You want me to take it

easier?

>> No, but I'm I'm really into your

relationship to work cuz I think it's

like it's very admirable and also I

think it's funny.

>> It's very um

>> I think it's your way into stuff. Would

you agree?

>> Interesting. Yeah. I mean, you know, I

keep cuz one of my favorite episodes

that you've done is with Cole Escola.

>> It was just heaven. It's a heaven

conversation and just the the running

bit of

>> I just like playing. It's just all It's

all play to me. Like the play is the

thing. And like honestly, I'm just like

I can never go on Amy's podcast cuz I

will be the guy actually saying that for

real.

>> I know what you mean.

>> It's really impossible. You guys have

made it impossible to have a serious

conversation about But I think I can

speak for I know you mean but I think I

can speak for myself and I'd like to

speak for Cole.

>> Okay.

>> Uh but I'm very interested in what

motivates people like how people move

through the world and that's the coolest

thing about these convos.

>> Yeah.

>> Were you always like a hard worker? Was

what what did work look like in your

house in your family?

>> Yeah. No, it's Yeah.

>> Oh boy.

>> I know. We're going

>> No, I know. I just

>> Do you want to hold something? You want

to touch something? You want to squeeze

something? Is there any felt that's

softer than

>> There's no No, there's no Munich felt.

>> No Munich felt in here.

>> I know. It's disgusting studio.

>> Weird.

>> Jenna, get the Munich.

>> Get the Bring out the Munich Bell,

Jenna.

>> I So, yes, I

>> You worked hard. Okay, fine. I'll just

ask you another question. Doesn't

matter.

>> No, no, no, no. I I really love what

your um I just unironically tucked my

hair behind my ears. Um,

>> by the way, your hair is in the same

We're in the same position right now.

>> Your hair is great.

>> Propecia.

>> Great. You know what? People should know

that

>> people I don't

>> Everyone Every man I know is on

Propecia. And also,

>> you just outed every single man in your

life that you know, including your young

nephews and sons. I don't know like like

every single

>> Prishia is incredible. And thank you for

saying that. You have naturally very

thick hair. You always have. You have.

Congrats. Incredible. And I bet you grew

it like that. And you bet you don't even

comb it in the morning and it looks

incredible.

>> I lied about the proper. It's just all

natural. I'm just trying to be relatable

to other guys out there.

>> But your hair looks great. But anyway,

sorry. You talked you talked about your

ear.

>> I'm going to say something

controversial.

Sometimes like sometimes people are

great.

>> Mhm.

>> Do you know what I mean? Like sometimes

people are really great. And I know

that's a hot take.

>> It is controversial, Andrew, but that's

so you. Well, I mean I there's a there's

a like there's a real humanity to the

stuff you do. There's also you're just a

delightful person to be around. You're a

real tenderoni.

>> I have a tenderoni. I will cosign that.

>> You're real tenderoni.

>> You and me both.

>> Yes. And and people are great. So say

more.

>> Some people some human beings can can be

really wonderful and add beautiful

things to the to the earth and to the

world. And I'm I I guess I'm curious as

well about what is it that makes us feel

compelled to do that? My my mother was

one of those people in every single

>> moment of her life. I had this image of

her now that she's passed and it came

very like like a flash

>> in a dream or like an awakening. I don't

know what it was, but I had this image

of her

>> being reunited

>> with her tribe after she passed.

>> Beautiful.

>> And it made sense to me why she was she

could be so hard on herself

>> incarnate when she was alive. I was

like, "Oh, you knew you were meant to be

in a thousand different places at once

giving goodness to people and you knew

in some unconscious way that you were

being restricted by this vessel of a

body by the vessel of restriction of

time and space." So when she passed, I

could I just I don't know like I don't

know if you had this experience with

someone who's passed, but it's like in

the first month or two,

>> I felt more connected to her than I ever

felt connected to her when she was in

incarnate when she was alive. Alive.

Let's put it in quotation marks. I do

believe that she's here right now and

she's everywhere all at once. I do

believe that and I I have a knowing of

that. So there was something about

seeing maybe seeing my mother in in a in

a very specific kind of hard work that

was so naturally occurring for her.

>> And and I was always someone in the same

way that you just did with me. I was

always someone with her was like just

take a trip.

>> Yeah.

>> Just relax. You're enough. You're the

most beautiful angel on earth. you you

can give yourself what you give to

others and and it doesn't make you

selfish. It doesn't make you any which

way. But after she passed, I had this

real understanding of like, oh no, that

was just inherently who she I don't know

whether it was nurture or I have no

idea, but it was just the the activating

the animating spirit of her, of her

essential nature, of her essential

being. And and I I guess you could call

that hard work or you could or you could

I don't know. There's there's something

otherworldly about it. As I say, after

she passed, I was like, "Oh, she's back.

She's actually back. She's back where

she's meant to be running around with

her like good angel brigade, like giving

people who need a miracle a miracle

like times a million." I could I could

just feel it. And I was just one of the

people that she was hanging out with.

>> Beautiful. I mean the idea that her

spirit and one spirit can be kind of

like released once they leave their

their body. Just that idea that

>> somebody is bigger than their body.

>> Yes.

>> And that's so interesting that you talk

about your mom when I ask you that

question because there is something in

your work that feels really not only

curious but very unbridled like you like

to kind of go go places. as I'm trying

to like psychoanalyze. Um, and again, I

am no therapist, but I do feel like I

am.

>> Um, and that's what this podcast is

about. Again, she says again, and I will

give you a prescription at the end of

this.

>> Um, no, but I think it's also very

interesting that you togg

you're British in many ways. You were

born in the US and you to like I find

you toggle back and forth

>> between those things culturally very

easy. And I had a question for you,

which is,

>> what do you think is the most American

thing about you?

>> My love of hamburgers.

Like, I love hamburgers.

>> But you have you have very youthful

energy as a person. You're a little

brother.

>> You're a little brother. And your older

brother is a doctor.

>> He's a doctor. Heart and lung doctor in

London. Yeah. Yeah. The the the good the

good son.

>> The good. Yeah.

>> He's the one that made good. He made

good. Yeah.

>> Did he always Was he always

>> Yeah. He was head boy at school. Was

catching the swimming team. was a

[ __ ] son of a [ __ ]

>> Yeah,

>> he was a son of a [ __ ]

>> How many years older than you?

>> Three years older. Yeah. Yeah. I was

[ __ ] I was [ __ ] from day one. And

he gave me menitis day two of my life.

>> Oh, he gives

>> he brings home menitis.

>> And then he became a doctor to heal you

from it.

>> You really should prescribe at the end

of this. And and yeah, I I I think like

being raised in a competitive household

is definitely a part in in like the nuts

and bolts of like the therapy. It would

be like, yeah, we don't feel enough at

the Garfield men. There is a kind of um

>> competition is sometimes gets a bad rap.

I love competition. I love games. I love

it, too. I [ __ ]

>> What What kind of game player are you?

You know what I mean? Like, do you get

too intense? Do you Yeah, me too.

>> I think you would have to ask my friends

this, but I would say I do. I I I have I

I can upset people.

>> Yeah, I have as well. I I work on it

because obviously like everyone wants to

have a good time, but when people say

things like I know when people say

things like who really cares? I'm like

>> what are we doing? What do you mean?

Like we're playing a game like we have

to try to win as best we can.

>> Otherwise, you're ruining the game.

>> Yeah.

>> Anyone who like says, "Yeah, I'll play."

And it's like who?

>> Yeah. Like this is so stupid. It's like

>> don't [ __ ] play. Don't [ __ ] play.

>> Yeah. Don't show up. And and also I'm

treating you I I I'm being rough on you

because I believe in you

>> and I love you. Yeah, for sure.

>> I mean, I expect the best from you.

>> Yeah. And I want I want you to grow.

>> I want you to grow at at celebrity or

whatever we're playing. I want I want

you to grow. Okay. Do you like playing

mafia?

>> Yeah, I play with werewolf is the

version I play. Yeah.

>> I'm not I'm

>> I'm bad at being the werewolf,

>> dude. Me, too. I'm I hate And when I get

it, I'm like, "Oh, [ __ ] I'm the

>> I I hate it.

>> I hate it. I hate I hate the like lying.

I hate the

>> deception. I know.

>> I know. And I bet I love accusing and

yes, of course. John proctoring and also

defending oneself.

>> Of course, being like, "How dare you

think my name?

YOU CANNOT TAKE MY NAME." AND EVERYONE'S

just like drinking their beers and just

like wanting to go to the bathroom like,

"Thou shalt not."

>> Okay, so let's get in. I do I do want to

ask you a a couple questions about your

work. Okay. I have to. Okay.

>> Um your first film you're with Merryill

Street

Cruz and Robert Redford.

>> How old are you then?

>> I'm 23 I want to say.

>> So you're coming on to that set

>> like and we all you know you have the

everyone has the jitters of like any

first day on any job

>> like I'm just going to be cool. I'm

like, you know, like just don't talk too

much. Like that's what I would say, you

know, to myself. Just just listen more

than you talk and just

>> they'll get to know you. You know,

whatever you're saying to yourself, what

as you're driving to set or whatever,

what are you saying to yourself when

you're approaching that set? That's a

really intimidating set.

>> That's so intimidating.

>> Oh my gosh.

>> What was it like to work with Robert

Redford?

>> I don't know what I was telling myself.

I I I So, first of all, Bob Redford, God

rest his beautiful soul of service. That

man had a soul for service. Like, what

he did with Sundance and like and what

that sprung from came out, it came out

of him, I think, helping out his new

neighbor in Utah who was about to be

foreclosed on. I'll buy your farm so you

can keep it. I'm going to have to make

some some money out of it and we'll set

up like a lab for young filmmakers. So

it came out of him helping out his

neighbor. It's just like

>> he was he was a beautiful beautiful man

and very late all the time to

everything.

>> So I say it with love. So I'm like I'm

like yeah terrified and nervous and

pinching myself and then Bob is 4 hours

late and it's just like by that time I'm

just pissed.

>> I'm just angry.

>> Okay, let's

>> Yeah. Yeah. But right. So you're

>> but but a lot of the nerves had kind of

dissipated because he was so loose and

casual and he and he's so he was so cool

and he he still dressed like he was in

his 20s with a double denim and he was

and he and he he wasn't aware that he

was late. He was just like on his own

Redford time

>> and he was famously like I'm not like

telling tales out of school. Sure. He

was like a famously late person.

>> But God is fair. I mean you know like

he's so handsome like there's got to be

something wrong with him.

I mean, what if he was like on time all

I'm like, "Okay, great." So, he's late.

Like, you be a little annoyed with the

guy, so he's late. He's like, "I'm I was

too handsome." Like,

>> I couldn't stop looking.

>> I felt guilty.

>> So, you were feeling less nervous. It

helped

>> and and well, he was so relaxed. He was

so relaxed and and and he would shoot

him his own coverage first. He would

shoot himself

and then he would look at me after his

first take and he'd be like, "What do

you think?" Cuz he was directing as

well. So all my scenes were with him and

he was like, "What do you think?"

>> And I was like, "It's

great. Really good. Robert Redfield."

And he was like, "Okay, that's really

I'll do it again. I'll do it again." And

then, but yeah, tell me if you think if

you see anything that you think. And I'm

like, "Oh my god,

>> that's a really interesting move."

Right. Trying to

>> Yeah. just make me feel like it was my

set and made me feel like I was an equal

and like he knew it was my first movie.

>> Yeah, that's very nice.

>> Oh, he was so nice. He was so beautiful.

And we and it was like a theater play

and I had done only theater at that

point. It was a lot of dialogue and it

was like a

>> Well, you are a theater you're a theater

boy.

That is your first love.

>> That is my first like love out. It was

like that was like my first exit of the

Truman Show. You know what I mean? like

opening that door in the sky and then it

was like there's a whole world out there

that I had no idea existed.

>> When you were working on that film, were

you still working at Starbucks?

>> No. No.

>> You had quit Starbucks.

>> I quit.

>> No, because there is always this weird

thing sometimes when

>> I wasn't ready to fully let go of it. I

wasn't like, you know, I'm not going to

say that that's that era is over.

>> I I had a little bit of a shock straight

out of drama school. I I I did two plays

in a row and then I I was like, I'm set.

Yeah.

>> And I did like a Doritos commercial in

Spain and I'm like

>> you're like

>> that's that

>> I guess wrap it up fell

>> wrap it up. Like that's my like that's

going to that's my kind of like the rest

of my life is going to be the occasional

Doritos like crisp commercial and and

great theater work. I'm I'm good.

>> Yeah.

>> Um and then I didn't work for a year

>> and then I started having to wait tables

again and be a bartender and I I broke

up with my girlfriend at the time. So,

it was like a really great year of,

you know, you're never safe.

>> Yeah. Like this destabilized kind of

place. And I still have it. I I'm sure

that you do, too. Even at the top of

this swanky building or not, you're

like, "No, I'm pretty much set."

>> No, you know, it's funny. It's funny you

say that. I know what you mean. Like, I

still just feel like you have to have a

plan always just if everything goes

away. Um,

>> what's yours? Well, I mean, it's funny.

I I still have dreams sometimes about

going back being a waitress because I

liked I liked waiting tables a lot.

>> Yeah.

>> Um because working in the service

industry in general, I liked a lot

because there was just certain things

that felt like you just completed your

night. Like your night had a system and

you completed it. You interacted with

people enough that you performed a

little bit.

>> You were with people who worked also

worked very hard. But the idea of like

doing a good job still means a lot to

me.

>> I know it means a lot to you. It's I get

a lot of self-esteem from work.

>> Yeah.

>> Do you consider yourself a method actor?

>> So the method

and if so who am I speaking to?

But it but it's like but it but because

it is you do you do go pretty deep in

when you're playing coach. You do

>> you got that trickster look in your eye.

You're looking for the clickbait head.

You're like is he going to give me the

juice or

>> babe? You lost all this. Wait, you

studied for a year being a monk.

>> You

you go for it for it. Are you method?

>> Are you method? Answer the question. Are

you method? It's a yes or no question.

I mean,

are you though?

>> Don't try Don't try and get cute with

it.

>> But are you No, but I want to know.

Um, in a way, yes, but I think Yeah. But

I think I think the term has been

massively mischaracterized,

misunderstood, and co-opted by people

that don't know. A method is basically

having a method and and like this the

the Stannislavski method, the Strazburg

method is about trying to live

truthfully under imagined circumstances

>> and and and having it feel personal,

having it feel

>> um connected to something that's

interior that is not just

>> um a kind of more performative exterior

um abstraction. Uh, so so I feel like

yes, but but I don't um I I think

there's a way of doing it that's

generous. I think there's a way of

accessing that work and that style of

working that doesn't [ __ ] with the rest

of the cast. That doesn't [ __ ] with the

rest of the crew that you don't have to

lose a bunch of weight.

>> That's playful.

>> Well, yeah. Yeah, that's playful.

>> Totally. And and generous like I feel

and and I and I my personal taste and my

personal

>> Sydney Lumett the great one of my

favorite filmmakers of all time who who

who seemed to vanish as a director in

his movies in a sense that like he let

his movies be the movies rather than

letting people know that he directed

them. Yes.

>> You know what I mean? Like every movie

is such a different flavor, such a

different feel.

>> Alan Parker is like that too for me.

>> Alan Parker. Exact. I was thinking about

Alan and and so very one of my favorite

films of all time, Bugsy Malone. Alan

Parker and then he does Angel Heart.

Holy [ __ ]

and and so

he says in his great little book making

movies I don't know if you've read he he

tells a story about Paul Newman I think

or yeah he tells a story about Paul

Newman in what was the movie they made

together it'll come back but he's like

Paul Newman came with with he did the

scene and um Lummet was like okay I

think we're going to re-shoot this

tomorrow because I think you need you

need to find out what this scene's about

inside yourself and he comes back the

next and and and and there was something

very personal that he was referring to.

He's like, I think you know what this

moment is and I think you're resisting

going there

>> and um Paul Paul came back and he did

the scene and it was like one of the

great you know scenes of any sum movie

and he describes it as personal

revelation is like the actor's job is

personal revelation

>> while the cameras are rolling.

>> The actors that I respond to and the

storytelling I respond to feels

>> like personal revelation.

>> Yeah. and and through through the lens

of a of a character, I think about like

and I've talked about this openly about

Tick Tick Boom, which is a film that I'm

very proud of and I really love and and

I can feel Thanks. And I and I just

>> but I I I can talk about it because it

feels very personal and also not

personal at all in a way. It does feel

like that kind of liinal place of of

letting another spirit move through

>> intermingling with my own spirit, but

also my mother's spirit is so much in

that film. Um, but but it was very very

personal cuz I just lost my mom and we

were making this movie

>> and it's about the shortness of life.

It's about the shortness, the sacredness

of life. It's about being of service.

It's about living out your own calling,

your own destiny in a way. And what

we're talking about waiting tables and

that year off like like how how do you

how do you hang on by hook or by crook

to the note that you hear in your head

that you have to follow? Like how do you

play your note? How do you how do you

not fall asleep to your note even though

the you're a salmon swimming upstream of

a of a world telling you to to to drop

it and and take the 9 to5 or what

whatever it is.

>> You mentioned directors. You've worked

with really interesting directors. You

always do. I I have a question that I I

want to ask. Fincher is one of my

favorite directors. He's I love his

films.

>> Rashidita was in social network. I know.

And I always and I was like, what was it

like working with David Fincher? Like

>> and she's like he's so incredible to

work with.

>> But I really want to know genuinely and

and not I'm not like digging for some. I

want to know what does the many many

takes do? How does it help you as an

actor? How does it does it how is it not

>> frustrating or like

>> can be?

>> Yeah. Is it like I I

>> I love it.

>> You love it.

>> [ __ ] love it cuz I love acting and I

love hard work and I love sports and I

love and I love not going home

>> with anything left to give. And yeah,

there's nothing worse as you know than

going home going,

>> I could have done that better.

>> Yeah,

>> it sucks. to feel it to feel like you're

in bed and you're just like ruminating

of like

>> Oh, yeah.

>> I I was I I my father put me through

drama school. He worked so hard and now

I've just done like a half job

>> at like this this thing that I'm so

lucky to do. And so, yeah, I I I love

it. And also,

>> I find it pleasure. I just find the work

really deeply pleasurable.

>> But I love positive reinforcement. I do.

I I genuinely do. It works on me. Like I

don't I don't the challenger in me. I

what what I'm I'm relating to is the

competitiveness of like tapping into

like [ __ ] yeah, I'll do this [ __ ] 30

times. I don't give a [ __ ] I can tap

into that, but I need sometimes like I

don't like um and I'm sure David isn't

like this, but but I I I don't do well

when I like like when someone's negging

me like I just kind of quit.

>> To use the phrase from the pickup

artist.

>> Are you talking about mystery?

>> I'm sorry. Mystery. Sorry, just a quick

sidebar. Shout out to Mystery. Shout out

to mystery. We miss you guys. Mystery

didn't work between us, but that doesn't

mean that you can't find love.

>> Um, obsessed with the pickup.

>> We didn't love the neg.

>> I It does not work on me. Like when

someone comes up and like, you know,

like, "Hey, you're ugly." Whatever. I'm

like, "Okay." Like, it just Why are you

so ugly at this bar? Whatever. Whatever

that I It does.

I'm I'm not even good at pretending to

do it. I just I'm like it does not work

on me. It does not work on me. But like

even at an exercise class, right? If

someone's like, "You're gonna work super

hard in here." And like, you know, and

I'm just like, "No, I'm not.

>> Not anymore. I'm not anymore.

>> You could have had me. You could have

had all this."

>> But when someone's like, "You got here

no matter what. It's 7 a.m. like I'm

like "Fuck."

>> Yeah. I I'm just telling for me for me.

So, in any of those uh repetitive takes,

whether it's with David or another

director,

>> do you like do you trust when you get

positive feedback?

>> With David, I do.

>> Okay.

>> I did.

>> And he you he would give it.

>> Yeah. He would and but but what's so

cool about David is that he's that he's

that dad, you know? He's that dad that

like knows that you need that.

>> Uhhuh. and and and and he'll and he'll

give it to you in abundance when you've

like when you've really shown how much

you care.

>> It's it's that kind of coach,

>> right?

>> I love a sports coach like that. Like

like like Paul Greengrass on on on the

film The Uprising is like that. He's

like incredible team captain. He's just

like he's just like a if we were like a

football team, English football team.

Um, and he was our he was our man and

and and and and he he was so full of

beautiful positive reinforcement.

>> Fin David would be Fincher would be less

quick with it for sure.

>> Um, but when you got it, it was like

that you would be stoic about you would

receive it and you would want to cry,

but you would be like, "Thanks. Yeah,

it's cool." It was like that level of

like it meant so much. And and the big

scene with like the smashing of the

laptop thing that Social network for

anyone who doesn't know what we're

talking about.

>> Yeah. Social network. And um

>> we did a lot of takes of it and I there

was like a few rounds of takes where I

was like

>> he's going to call it. He's going to

he's going to call it soon. He's going

to call it. Okay. One more time, Andrew.

And I'm like, okay.

>> Oh wow. Yeah.

>> And then on the third round of 10 or 15

takes, I didn't hear anything. I was

just like on the floor with like I was

exhausted and like just like snotty and

just like crying and I'm just like

waiting for like and at that point

you're broken in a way that's like so

beautiful.

>> Beautiful.

>> So beautiful. It's the best [ __ ]

feeling in the world. It's the best

[ __ ] feeling in the world.

>> Okay. You say so.

>> Okay. And I and I just feel like a

shadow approaching like like covering

like like the I I the light that was on

me just gets like kind of covered by a

figure. And I look at his shoes and I

look up and he looks down at me. He just

puts his hand down and he and he takes

my hand and he shakes my hand and he

lifts me up and he's like, "Okay, moving

on." And I'm like

>> so holding

>> so hot.

I I don't know. You have even you I'm

sorry BUT YOU HAVEN'T SOLD ME. You

haven't sold me. Let me tell you a

different story because I would have

liked him at tape 10 to say you're doing

a great job. Hey babe.

>> Hey babe. You're doing great.

>> Babe, you're doing so great.

>> I I would have like this is what I would

have liked.

>> You're doing great. But you know me, I

have to do 25 more. That's what I would

have liked. I would have been like

>> Well, let me say one more thing about

David because I feel like I need to

protect David as a as a father on set

now. You can you can feel that he's

proud of you.

>> Yeah. because of what you're giving.

He's such a talented director,

>> but you can feel it. It's not he's not

withholding. It's like it's like it's

not like you're doing a bad job.

>> And it's not like I'm not going to give

you the banana. It's like it's like you

can feel when he's he's like he's like

we're going to keep going. Do we do

another one? Think about this. Think

about that. He's he's a tender tender

guy. He really really is. getting back

to the very beginning of what we're

talking about is this idea that

caring about something is like is this

like very important and

>> I'll I'll self-reveal because you're

you're really doing it you're really

you're acting with my therapist today

which I don't appreciate.

>> I'm sorry.

>> Which I don't appreciate.

>> I'm honestly sorry.

>> Okay. Um

>> you're my David Venture and you're

breaking me down. Um, no. But, um, but

when I feel like I I if I've checked out

or I like feel like I am acting like I

don't care about something, it really

means that I've divested.

>> And

>> yeah,

>> it's a bummer cuz it means that I've

lost some kind of relationship.

Sometimes you have to do it to protect

yourself. Sometimes you do it because

you don't have anything left to give.

Sometimes you do it because you don't

feel like the person that you're with, I

don't know, earned or deserves or can

hold it. Totally. Totally.

>> All that. But you feel like you've lost

something like in that it is you are

very very as a person as a as an actor

you really invest and it's and it's

>> like it must be um

>> exhausting.

>> It must be exhausting. That's why I

think you need to take a break from some

of these movies.

>> I'm going to take a break. No, I am

going to take a break.

>> You're too hard.

>> I was too hard.

>> It's too hard being an actor. Being an

actress pretending know

>> pretending to be things. Pretending to

be in a in a peasants revolt.

>> It's hard.

>> It's hard.

>> Pretending to be a German magician.

>> I go home at night and I'm like, "Owee."

>> I had to pretend it was cold. It was

actually hot.

>> So, and then

>> and then

>> and then um

>> But wait, I do want to I want to Okay,

you bet.

>> Seriously, whatever. whatever you want

to ask.

>> Well, you know what? I

>> I love I love your uh your

Hold on.

>> This is an SNL skit. This is SNL

character.

>> Is it like a Fred Aras you or was it,

you know, was it Kristen Wig? That was

like they would start a sentence and

then like never finish the sentence.

>> Fred was they played uh G and C.

>> So good. Sorry. Fred played a character

called Nicholas Fain. Have you ever Let

me ask you this. Have you Has it ever

been a Okay, say you're in It's

summertime. It's summer Oregon. But

there's a dog. Do you have a dog?

>> Wait. Dogs or cats? And he I do it

badly.

>> And I've already told you that or I I

said on that podcast the when he would

do it, the Q cards would be blank.

>> You hosted SNL, right?

>> Yes, I did it once. Yeah, I did it.

>> And did you have a good time doing it?

>> I loved it. I absolutely loved it. And

of course I was so scared but again like

service like I think the best episodes

are when the host

>> totally

>> supports the cast and that's not always

like intuitive thing which I understand

but like

>> nobody really pulls anybody aside to say

like I know this might feel weird but

you'll have the best time if you

>> say yes to the stuff that like the cast

likes and you know like if you just like

become an ensemble member you'll have

the best time but it's not always um set

up like that. But did you host it for

Spider-Man? Were was it during

Spider-Man?

>> I think it was the second Spider-Man.

Yeah,

>> I had Tom Holland in here.

>> Sweet.

>> Oh my gosh.

>> Sweetie pie.

>> What a sweetie.

>> Such a doll. Such a talented actor.

>> So talented.

>> And I I just have to say I love how all

of you guys

>> like show up for each other. You talk

about each other. You talk about your

experience.

>> It's a brotherhood now, which is really

really great. Like I think like doing

doing the one where we're all together

really cemented some kind of

>> weird brotherhood that was just

beautiful, you know, and and I I had

known Toby a little bit before,

>> but he was always my, you know, my north

star with that character that like and

>> and I and I loved what Tom's done. And I

think that was very healing for all of

us to do that together and to feel less

alone in that very very weird

>> singular experience like to be a part of

this character's legacy that

>> is maybe I don't know arguably one of if

not the most popular fictional character

in the history of like modern fiction.

>> Really really true. I don't know another

character that is that beloved

>> and now you know mother of boys I didn't

really they're now 16 and almost 18

>> and the proper is helping

>> yeah it's helping a lot yeah I insisted

they get on it

>> really like like a lot of hair now

>> mommy loves a good head of hair

>> mommy mommy mommy

>> you know mother won't be mother will be

disappointed

that's what I say I wake them up and I

say has your hair grown mother's

disappointed

Have you seen Andrew's hair?

I say, "Don't let mother down." That's

what I say every day when I close the

door.

But they

>> but they um the the way in which when

that character was introduced in their

lives, the way they

>> embodied him like they they their bodies

want to it's really wild. And so

>> Joseph Campbell primitive.

>> That's so interestingly put. That's

really interesting.

>> They want to get in that crouch.

>> Yes.

>> And they want to leap and it's so fun

with those kinds of films where you

watch people come out of the film and

they're just moving like dancers to like

it's so cool. And um I just want to talk

about Sally Field.

>> Oh my god. Yeah. Let's do that.

>> Isn't she

>> Wow.

>> She's so good at acting.

>> She's one of the best. Oh, she really

is.

>> She's maybe one of the best.

>> You've worked with some amazing women.

>> [ __ ] hell.

>> And congratulations. You seem to really

love women and everybody can tell.

>> Thank God because

>> women love you and and and they and you

and you can tell. And Sally is I don't

know. I just What was it like to work

with her? What is she like to be around?

>> She's one of the great people alive or

dead for that matter. But um she's she's

so

weirdly still humble. It's a weird thing

like she I I would say she has legend

status. She's like icon legend status as

a performer, as an actor, as a person.

>> Um and somehow she's retained

a kind of homespun grounded

again in the same way that Redford made

me relax. Like Sally is someone that you

just feel like you're with the best

friend aunt you could ever wish for. I I

was thinking about this the other day

actually. I think one of the great

highlights and privileges of my life was

to be able to give her a lifetime

achievement award at the SAG awards a

few years ago.

>> So great.

>> I felt so lucky. I almost said no cuz I

just didn't think that I could handle it

because it was so it was such an honor

cuz she is so beloved and and rightly

so. And she's so

beautifully extraordinary and ordinary

sight. She honors her ordinariness in

such an inspiring I I I really can't

believe I can even talk about her in

this fashion.

>> It's so funny you say that. She's so so

so talented like and I've she's probably

her and Merryill probably the two most

influential actresses in in for me

growing up.

>> Um

>> but she never felt

>> uh above or below us ever. She never put

herself down. She was always just like

>> just just her.

>> Um there's a million people that would

have wanted to talk to me today about

you.

>> I know about this part of your thing.

I'm nervous. I'm like excited and

nervous and you got someone to come and

say friends. You have so many talented

friends and they all love you and they

all want to they it's you know it is

it's it's a really you should know that

it's a really nice thing when you have a

guest on and there's like so many people

that would want to speak well behind

your back.

>> That's crazy. Um, but we talked today to

Lin Manuel Miranda.

>> Oh,

>> and um he talked about the process, you

know, of of working with you and and

how, you know, when he said, you know,

um, can you sing and, you know, and you

were like, when when are you going to

make this? And he was like, in a year.

And you were like, yes. Which is

amazing. I love that. And that is now

knowing a little bit more about your

competitive spirit, I understand that,

which is like, I'll do a coach. Yes.

Yes. So true.

>> Um, his question was he he spoke a

little bit about how what a good swimmer

you are and how he didn't know that and

and he called you the Michael Phelps of

>> which you know

>> there. No. Who would that be? Me?

>> Do you swim a lot? Do you like to swim?

>> I still swim. Yeah, I still swim.

>> Yeah, cuz I I I

>> I surf now. I It's translated.

>> Yeah, it's like my gymnastics. I was a

gymnast when I was a kid. Mhm.

>> that translated into like, you know,

Spider-Man stuff.

>> Um, I took all of the stuff that my dad

was trying to like discipline me with

and I turned into something like a

funner version of those things. Like

with swimming, it was like up at 5:00

a.m., you know, swimmers like they they

they train. It's crazy.

>> I know.

>> So, I turned that into surfing. So, like

my paddle is pretty strong and I can

Yeah. So, I like So, I I surf more than

I swim, but I swim I don't I don't

really swim swim anymore. I'll do like

open water swimming and swimming in the

sea and like swimming in ponds and like

natural places.

>> Yeah. Do you have long arms?

>> I don't think that's any of your

business.

>> Fine.

>> Fine. Well, I'm not going to tell you

what Lynn said.

>> I know that your least strong sense is

your vision, but you could have made an

effort to just look at the arms.

>> I'm like, do you I'm like, do you have

long arms?

>> You have long arms.

>> Um, okay.

>> Can you clear something up for me? It's

just been bugging me this whole time.

>> I'm like, let me Are your arms long or

are they shortly? Where are they in me?

I need to smell and see if your arms are

long.

>> Um, okay. But he said, he said, um,

first of all, he was like, tell Andrew

what

he said.

>> THE ONLY WAY IS Columbbo with this.

>> OH MY GOD.

>> THE ONLY way I can figure out

>> that's a good Peter Faulk.

>> Peter Faulk. Me and him have the same

birthday. Not tomorrow.

>> Let me smell. Just one more thing. No

one more thing. Let me smell your arms.

Just because the the murderer has

particularly long swimmer's arms. I

don't know. I just not wear my glasses.

But

my nose is strong, so I'd like to just

Never mind. I'm out. Now, ONE MORE

THING.

>> ONE MORE THING. Can I smell your arm?

This one is even smells like chlorine.

You've been in the pool. Oh [ __ ] God.

Peter. [ __ ]

You You guys remember Peter Faulk,

right? If you anyone under the age of

50,

>> Columbbo. God damn it. Love Columbbo so

much. But so Lynn Lynn's question for

you was um what other secret as you know

he had a two-parter. First was like what

other secret what other secret thing are

you good at that we don't know yet? I

know he's like tell us now so director

can a director can know. But he

basically was basically saying like, you

know, does anything feel like too much

of a challenge? Um, you do a lot of you

you really take on a lot of challenges

for the work that you do. You're your

game.

>> Yeah, that's a cool question. It's a

question I've been asking myself.

>> Mhm.

>> Um,

you know, you know, I'm really scared of

>> Yeah.

>> I'm going to tell you anyway. Um, being

a being a dad

>> scares the [ __ ] out of me.

>> So great.

>> It scares me so much.

>> You're going to be so great.

Don't even worry about it.

>> Seriously, even if you can fix

>> Mommy's proud of my hair. Is that what

you're saying?

>> Mother is proud.

>> Mother is proud.

>> Mother is proud. Look at all that.

>> If you're going to be The fact, Andrew,

that you even say it.

>> Yeah.

Well, it mean that I think that that

would be the biggest most important

>> thing I ever probably do.

>> Yeah.

>> And I and I I know that to be true. It

makes me want to cry thinking about it.

>> Cry cry cry cry. I love when boys cry on

here.

>> Cry cry cry.

>> Talk about being a dad.

>> Like it's like

>> Yes.

>> [ __ ] man.

>> Yes. You'll be so good.

>> I know what it's like to be on the other

end of it, you know? You know what I

mean? I've been a child.

>> I know. It's really It's

>> You've been a son.

>> Yes. We We've all been born from dads

and sometimes not. Right.

>> Right. I don't know.

>> Well,

>> don't cancel us.

>> Don't I'm sorry. We all We're all born

however we want.

[ __ ]

WAIT. But get Let's get back to you

crying.

But you're going to be such a good dad.

You're going to know. I do want to do

it. I do want to do it and I and I and

it kind of you can sometimes feel a bit

selfish with I want to be there like

well

>> I don't know I don't know. So I so I'm

the in terms of a challenge I can't

imagine a greater

>> a greater challenge than um taking that

kind of responsibility. Um and then

there was another question about stuff

I'm good at. Um I a sad I'll I'll

respond in a sad way. always.

>> It relates back to the body failing.

>> Oh my god. What are you gonna say?

>> Grab some felt real quick.

>> Just grab something.

>> Get that fell back in my Sweet. Let's do

a little Yeah.

>> I um I was playing basketball recently.

>> Mhm.

>> I love basketball. And I thought I think

I'm pretty good at basketball.

>> I have a theory about this.

Uh, I think the worst injuries happen

with men in their 40s when they play

basketball.

>> It's It's a theory that's backed up with

a lot of evidence.

>> Go ahead. What did you do?

>> Columbbo sister.

Columbbo sister. She comes and she's

like, "Colbo, let's get out of here."

And he goes, "Wait a minute. Just"

She's like, "You said you were leaving

like 10 MINUTES AGO.

COLUMBO'S SISTER IS LIKE, "Get in the

car."

Jesus, you had your keys in your hand

for 10 minutes. I've been in waiting in

the car. Like, just a second.

>> Okay. Sorry. Sorry. Okay. Basketball.

Let's get back on track.

>> Basketball with some friends.

>> I was playing with Woody Haroldson.

>> Oh, great. He's a good basketball

player. I know.

>> My man can't jump is one of my all-time

favorite movies.

>> Why am I holding these felts like

they're cards in a poker game?

>> Oh my god. Do you have

>> turn everything into a game?

>> Playing Uno. Do you have orange cheese?

Great.

>> Okay. Sorry. Come on, Andrew. Focus.

>> If if anyone's not watching this and

just listening to on the podcast, [ __ ]

I'm so sorry. We're holding.

>> I'm sorry for most of what's been

happening this whole time. I'm so sorry.

>> Oh, Jesus Christ. I was playing with

Woody, who I love and I've been a fan of

forever. And White Man jump is just one

of those alltime great movies. And he's

is one of my all-time favorite

performances of all time.

>> All time. All time. All time.

>> And I was so excited to play with him.

And then as soon as we got on the court,

I just froze.

>> I was just like,

>> you got in your head. I just like I was

just like the seven-year-old of the

party that just wants to go home.

>> Oh god, yes. Oh god, yes.

>> I was just so scared.

>> It was like fight or flight or freeze.

>> I was I folded.

>> I fully froze and folded

>> and I played really badly and I just

want to apologize to

>> for a competitive person like you.

>> Yeah, I froze. I was just like I love

Woody so much and I've been wanting to

play with him for so long and it was our

finally our time

>> and he still plays great and he's like

you know

>> I don't think he should. Woody, if

you're listening, you're gonna blow out

your knee.

>> He's taking really good care of himself,

but he he he's a compet he's fiercely

competitive, and I love it. I absolutely

love it. Anyway, so um a thing that I

thought was a hidden talent,

>> Lynn.

>> Turns out uh

>> it's gone.

>> It's there was never maybe there. So

there there we have it.

>> You made a movie that took place in

1381.

>> Yeah.

>> And it is about a peasant uprising. It

looks badass. It's called it's looks I I

I saw the trailer for it and and

>> the feeling of like

>> whoa this is a very political very

interesting movie to make right now

>> and what is it about?

>> Yeah, it's a true it's about true events

in that period of British history. Um

it's the it's called the peasants

revolt. Um, and it was a a big uprising

um among the the ordinary folk of the of

the British Isles that came together in

an organized way. And it's um it's told

the story is told in a way that is very

unique and it's cuz it's this it's one

of my favorite directors of all time

Paul Greengrass who people would have

seen a lot of his amazing films like

>> Captain Phillips or the Bourne

>> series movies with Matt Damon

>> or um United 93 or Bloody Sunday u the

News of the World with Tom Hanks. um

some of my favorite films of all time

and I've wanted to work with Paul

forever and and and it brings up in

really interesting questions about

revolution about violence in revolution

whether it's needed whether it's not how

change can happen without

>> some form of military coup like it's

really a a visceral story

>> it's so cool it looks incredible

>> and it's a ride as well it's also just

like a really entertaining kind of

action film it's like a really cool

>> and it also has my my scariest kind of

villain which is a a boy king

>> oh yeah boy King. Tyrant boy king.

>> Tyrant boy king.

>> Oh yeah.

>> Oh, there's nothing scarier.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And

it was real. Richard, this this King

Richard was 14 years old and he had And

at that time, this is what's crazy. At

that time, and it wasn't metaphorical,

it was literal. The king was the

messenger of God's word on the earth.

So, anything that the king uttered was

literally treated like it was sent from

heaven above.

There was and any equivocation of that

meant you were a treasonous entrer to

the throne. So anything that this boy

decides this 14year-old boy who is being

governed a lot by these

>> sure

>> you money hoarding power hoarding land

hoarding oligarchs was treated was had

to be it was there was no question it

was just like that's the way it is water

is wet you know sky is blue the king is

god on earth

>> okay

>> that's that so that level of power yeah

>> it's a really interesting thing for

right now

>> I need to finish our I need to finish

you you need to go you have like

But 45 other things to do today. But

>> no, this is lovely. I love being

>> But I want to finish by asking you the

question I ask everybody, which is, what

are you listening to, watching, numbing

out with?

>> I love numbing out, man.

>> Okay. What do you What do you What video

do you like? What movie?

>> What video? What's your video?

>> What's your video? Sometimes it's just a

video of like a bird eating.

>> What's your video right now?

>> We're back on the first date. Now we're

back on the first date. And you're like,

"What's your favorite video?

What what video what video do you watch

when you want

when you want to turn off your head?

>> What's the video?

>> What video do you watch?

>> My favorite video right now is um I've

been watching a lot of Roy Horn of Sig

and Roy fame cuz I play Roy Horn in this

uh in this upcoming Apple TV show and we

just finished. Did you know this? I love

this for you, bro. It's really fun.

>> You're playing Roy Horn.

>> Yeah. So, I've been watching lots of Roy

Horn movies.

>> Is that why your hair is so luscious?

>> Yes. Yes, that's partly. But then we

just end up putting wigs on of the same

hair.

>> It's like, can I get a wig of this on

this? Yeah. Great. That makes sense. No,

no, no. It does make sense.

>> Oh my god.

>> We're playing them through me and Judah.

Judah is playing Sig Freed

>> and we're playing them through the

through the decades from their 20s

through to their 60s. It's amazing. So

fun. It was so hard. called a maneater.

It means maneater.

>> The name means maneater.

>> I did not know that.

>> The tiger that

>> there was an incident with we say

incident.

>> There was an accident.

>> There was an accident

which means maneater.

>> I cannot wait for this project.

>> And Roy hand raised him.

>> Yeah.

>> Wow.

>> And Roy Yeah. So I'm I'm obsessed. And

I'm still obsessed. That's a good sign

that I we we were prepping for a year.

We shot it for six months and I'm still

obsessed with Roy. I still adore him and

his spirit.

>> Yes.

>> Um, so I've just been watching lots of

footage of him for the last year and a

half and I continue to watch it cuz I

just adore

>> And have you handled tigers?

>> Have you been near tigers?

>> I have been near tigers. Yes. But I but

only in a a very legal and safe way. But

I did feed a tiger by hand which was

kind of incredible.

>> Tigers are amazing. And I and I and I

and I say to them, "Good day, sir."

>> Yes.

>> I say to tigers, "And I and it is nice

to meet you, and I shall take my leave

because tigers scare the [ __ ] out of

me."

>> Yeah,

>> they're so

>> They live with them.

>> I know.

>> He hit a thing in the morning. He hit a

button as he woke up and it sent a bell

into the garden letting the tiger that

he wanted know it was time to come and

snuggle. The tiger came into the house,

came up to the bed, jumped on bed, and

they snuggled to wake Roy up. He was

>> incredible.

>> Something else, man. He was something

else.

>> Andrew Garfield,

>> Amy Pola,

>> we have talked so much.

>> This was yapping. We yapped.

>> We yapped.

>> We yapped. We we I knew we would.

>> Me, too. It's been a while.

>> I know. It's so fun to be with you. I

love talking to you.

>> I feel like we're from the same planet

in some regard. I feel like we're from

some kind of same universe, which I

>> I love just being with you and I've

always have. I remember when I first met

you, it was with Jane Aronson, Dr. Jane

Aronson of the Worldwide Orphans

Foundation. And I was really nervous to

meet you cuz I'm just a huge fan of

yours and I just think you're so

wonderful. I hadn't known many famous

people at that point. And you were just

like so warm and engulfing and

encouraging and caring in such a genuine

way that made me feel a lot of hope for

for for being a person in this world and

I I you you're a beautiful beautiful

person. I really adore you.

>> Andrew, thank you so much. You smell so

good.

Everyone should know it's my best sense

and I here to say Andrew smells great

just like we thought.

>> Andrew Garfield. EVERYBODY.

Andrew Garfield. That was so fun. Oh,

you're just a real silly Billy. I had

such a good time with you. Thank you so

much for doing this. And and for this

Polar Plunge, you know, we talked about

some great people that Andrew worked

with, uh, including Sally Field. And I

just wanted to remind everybody if

you're looking for a movie, a beautiful

movie that's filled with heart and will

make you cry and and it's all about like

the the spirit of of of a woman saving

her farm. Check out a movie called

Places in the Heart with Sally Field and

Danny Glover and a young John Malkovich

and Ed Harris and Amy Madigan and it's

so so good. Um,

not enough people talk about this movie

and is one of my favorites. Places in

the heart. Sally Field, I love you.

Andrew Garfield, we love you. Thank you

so much for doing this episode and

thanks everybody for listening. See you

soon.

You've been listening to Good Hang. The

executive producers for this show are

Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss Berman, and me

Amy Polar. The show is produced by The

Ringer and Paperkite. For the Ringer

production by Jack Wilson, Cat Spalain,

Kaia McMullen, Aia Xanerys, Bridget

Gearlings, Paige Garberini, Bell Roman,

and Drew Vanstein Bergen. For Paperkite,

production by Sam Green, Joel Levelvel,

and Jenna Weiss Berman. Original music

by Amy Miles.

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