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    Hello everyone. Welcome to another

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    episode of Good Hang. I am so excited to

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    talk to my TV husband, the father of my

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    triplets, Adam Scott aka Ben Wyatt,

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    Leslie Nope's dream come true. Adam

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    Scott, incredible actor, friend. He's

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    just I I just loved talking to him today

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    and we really get into it. We talk about

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    his love of you, too. We talk about how

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    he weirdly likes to drive barefoot. We

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    talk about parks and wreck, of course,

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    and we give you a lot of juicy stuff

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    there. and I try to figure out the crazy

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    ending of Severance. And um honestly, I

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    I don't know what's going on. So, I I

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    try to have him help me um understand

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    that incredible show. But before we

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    start, um we always like to talk to

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    people who know our guest and who want

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    to give us a question. And we're going

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    to keep this parks and wreck reunion

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    going today by talking to the one, the

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    only Nick Offererman.

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    Nick, are you there?

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    Hi Nick.

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    Hello,

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    Nick. You know what I love? Every time I

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    see you, I never know what kind of hair

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    situation I'm going to get with you. And

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    you and our guest today, Adam Scott,

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    great heads of hair.

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    That's the main thing we have in common.

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    Um, super super cute uh

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    guy in in one instance and donkey with

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    uh great heads of hair.

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    Stop it. You are so handsome. I love to

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    see you since I've seen you last in

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    person. It's been a minute. And um the

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    the one of the best things about this

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    podcast is getting to like talk to

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    everybody again and spend time with

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    everybody. And today I'm spending time

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    with the great Adam Scott,

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    the greatest.

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    Well, you know, we're going to talk

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    about this when we're in person someday

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    together. But I think that, you know, I

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    know that the character of Ron Swanson

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    is

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    iconic and it is in no um small part to

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    the way that you transformed yourself

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    and the way you approach your work

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    because I met you in Chicago back in the

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    day and you were coming from to this

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    work in a much more for lack of a better

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    term like more prepared actor space and

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    and you you're such a fine actor and I

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    can't wait to talk to you about it. And

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    Adam very similarly like kind of came

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    into the biz from that space too.

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    He did. Uh thank you by the way. I did

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    not expect compliments today. But I

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    Well, your people uh emailed me and said

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    I needed to start with them. So

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    I thank you and please thank them for me

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    as well. Um yeah, I love that about

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    Adam. I love his uh they hilariously

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    asked me to write a little thing for

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    Time magazine for like the hundred cool

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    people at right now. And it it was so

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    funny cuz they asked me to like sum up

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    his his thing and they gave me like 650

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    words or some something so brief that

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    and then they even cut paragraphs where

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    I was like come on you guys. Like this

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    guy's career is hilariously varied and

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    astonishing and also risible. Like he

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    has literally done everything. Um

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    I'm just going to look up Rizible real

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    quick.

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    It's a it's you'll you'll love Rizible.

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    R I S I B L E.

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    You love words. You are you've taught me

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    a lot of words. Rizible. Such as to

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    provoke laughter. I should know that

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    word.

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    You know, I love about him that he he

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    has done like piranha 3D and like just

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    wonderful like be movie schlot kind of

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    stuff. Also crazy the what was that HBO

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    show where he had apparently it was in

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    his contract that he had to show his

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    balls every episode.

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    Tell me you love me. He had a prosthetic

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    penis. It was the first thing I saw of

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    him.

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    Oh my god. And and he carried it off.

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    He sure did. literally carried off.

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    I guess I I guess you could have to say

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    he pulled it off.

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    He really pulled it off. I've known him

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    for a long time. We uh did play

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    workshops together like 20 plus years

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    ago and he was just this cool funny guy.

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    Like if you get to step aside with Adam

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    anywhere, he's just immediately the cool

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    kid where he's he whatever he says to

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    you, you're like, "Oh, I just want to

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    hang out with you." whatever this event

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    is. I mean, getting to work with him

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    finally on on Parks and Wreck, I always

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    said, and to this day, I still feel like

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    he's my favorite leading man that I've

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    worked with. Um, because he's so

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    authentic. He um he he lets the dorky

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    parts of himself shine. Even in

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    severance, he, you know, Adam's pure

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    sort of youthful uh juvenile otter like

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    persona

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    comes out even though he's like our our

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    romantic leading man. And I agree, it's

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    so gorgeous to see him leading this

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    massive artistic achievement. Yeah, I I

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    I I'm going to talk to him today about

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    obviously when he joined our show and

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    how uh what that felt like to jump onto

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    a train that was already moving. But I

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    realize I never talked to you. Look, you

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    and I I think had such similar first day

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    goals for the show and it was to make

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    good work and have a good time. And I

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    feel like we, you know, you more than

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    anyone at times really were my partner

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    in that every day. And

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    um I'm so grateful for it. But was there

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    when you remember him and Rob joining

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    the show was what do you remember

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    feeling about that at the time?

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    There was an excitement for sure. Uh

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    Adam was just coming off Party Down

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    which Megan had worked on with him,

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    right? And I was I was a really big fan

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    of

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    your great wife Megan Mali. People

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    should know your Tammy wife in life and

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    on on the show.

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    Tammy 2 plus.

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    I remember being excited at the talent

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    and but also having a little bit uh

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    where we had maybe eight series regulars

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    at the time. We were like um do we need

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    two can we service two

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    new hunks? Uh,

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    do we have enough do we have enough hunk

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    room?

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    Yeah.

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    Yeah. Yeah, I hear you. Um, okay. So,

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    I'm asking my Zoomers to uh give me a

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    question to ask my guest. So, I was

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    wondering if there's any question you

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    think I should ask Adam today. If I was

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    just hanging with Adam, this is what I

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    would ask him is he's he's he's one of

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    those guys who has a few dozen stories

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    that I've never heard, even though I've

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    heard dozens. Um, of just like

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    luminaries that he's, you know,

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    Scorsesei put him in a Leo movie. like

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    he's he's done so much and and casually

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    and quietly been uh in so many great

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    arenas.

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    I I would just say tell me tell me a

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    story about uh somebody who you would be

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    starruck with that I haven't heard um

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    that you've worked with.

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    That's a great question, Nick. I love

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    that question. And you're right there.

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    There's a quiet

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    experience that Adam doesn't brag about

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    certainly, but that like a lot he's been

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    on a lot of different sets with very

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    interesting to your point luminaries.

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    He's been he's been everywhere.

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    Well, friend, I hope I I can't wait to

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    get you in this seat. And it's a hot

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    seat, man. And and when we get when you

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    get here, I do want to talk more about

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    facial hair because I do think you've

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    had to switcheroo so much in your life

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    and your Ron's mustache is I'm going to

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    put it up there in the Mount Rushmore of

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    mustaches and I miss you very much and

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    love you and so appreciate you doing

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    this.

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    Well, I I miss you and love you as well

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    and uh give give my best to the gang and

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    we'll be in touch.

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    All right, buddy. See you soon.

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    Cheers.

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    Well, people haven't seen this feel. You

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    can't you can't hear it, but you can.

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    Listeners, this is a heavy peach. You

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    could kill someone with that peach.

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    That's why I like it.

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    Why is it is it a paper weight?

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    I guess it probably is. Doesn't smell.

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    There's not. You know what it doesn't

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    smell like is a peach.

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    Nope.

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    [Laughter]

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    Um, listeners, Adam Scott's just come

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    into the studio and he's um checking out

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    all the fake food. I knew you would love

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    it.

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    Peach still looks like a butt no matter

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    what.

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    Yeah, Peach is a butt.

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    I mean, that's why you give send someone

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    a peach emoji. You're like,

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    you're like, "Hey." You're like, "I like

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    your butt."

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    These are the miniature.

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    I love it.

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    Uh, this is doesn't get enough play.

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    This you might like. This is a felt

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    sandwich. But guess what? You can take

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    it apart.

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    You can also take a bite if you want. I

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    love a You know what? We don't You know

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    what we don't talk about enough is how

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    great a good sandwich is.

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    What is your favorite sandwich?

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    Uh I like

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    if you were to build a sandwich.

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    Okay. First of all, it would need to be

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    felt all of it. Um I just if feels good

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    in your hands.

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    Yeah.

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    Two different cheese. I mean, this is

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    I don't know. This might be too much

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    information, but I have a little bit of

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    TMJ.

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    So, yeah. So, it's hard. It's hard for

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    me to open my mouth to eat a sandwich.

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    I get nervous that I'm going to get

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    locked.

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    Sure. Like this.

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    And your arms, too. Locked like this.

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    And so, a giant sandwich.

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    Yeah. It's But check this out.

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    Bread.

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    Yeah. Tomato.

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    Tomato.

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    Some onion.

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    Onion. What the heck? What are we in

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    California?

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    AO. I don't like AO on a sandwich.

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    I don't either. Let's talk about it

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    because I feel like AO makes it soggy.

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    It also slides out.

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    That's what you said.

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    It doesn't cooperate with the rest of

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    the sandwich.

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    Um, speaking of AO,

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    yeah,

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    Adam Scott is here and he's a California

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    kid.

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    You're a California kid.

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    Yeah,

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    you grew up in California.

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    You love giving me [ __ ] about being a

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    California person.

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    Well, you grew up in Santa Cruz. and

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    tell people how you used to drive.

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    If you're wearing This is a universal

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    thing.

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    It definitely is not.

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    If you're wearing flip flops,

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    okay, yeah, that's already 80% of the

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    world is already

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    and you have to drive a car. It is

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    unsafe to keep the flip-flops on. You

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    have to kick them off and drive

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    barefoot.

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    People in Santa Cruz drive barefoot.

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    Ridiculous.

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    And Adam one time casually was like,

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    "You know when you're like driving

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    barefoot?" I I said, "Is your house on

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    fire?"

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    Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you forget your

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    shoes?

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    But Santa Cruz people drive barefoot.

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    If you keep your flip flops on, they can

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    easily get like caught under the the gas

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    or the the brake and then you're you

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    know

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    Yeah. I I I that has happened to me when

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    I'm driving a golf cart on vacation. I

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    don't wear flip flops in life.

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    You Oh, so you've never entered a car

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    with flip flops on?

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    I don't know if I ever have cuz like I

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    feel like

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    I'm going to call [ __ ] on that right

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    now.

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    Well, first of all, I don't like uh

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    flip- flops that have the thing. You

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    probably You know what? Santa Cruz

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    probably loves this. The thing between

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    the the big toe and the

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    How else does a flip-flop function? What

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    kind of flip-flops are you wearing?

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    I like a flip-flop that Well, I guess

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    it's not a flip-flop that has the thing

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    over the foot.

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    Yeah, that's a sandal.

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    Okay. I like a sandal. I don't like a

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    flip flop.

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    All right. All right.

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    Um

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    Agree to disagree.

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    Santa Cruz. It feels like you guys

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    walked around flip-flops all day and all

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    these people.

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    I remember I sent you a photo from

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    Hawaii once. That's why I thought of

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    Hawaii where I I sent you a photo of my

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    barefoot on a gas pedal and you were

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    just like, "Nuhuh."

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    Al Yeah. So gross. Also truly like um

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    bare feet in general like I'm a I don't

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    know.

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    Yeah. Listen,

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    how do you feel about bare feet?

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    Okay. I'm I don't like love bare bare

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    feet and I don't wear flip flop fl like

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    I feel like in my 20s I was fine with

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    like jeans and flip flops which now I

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    feel like should be illegal.

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    I mean we spent a lot both of us spent a

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    lot of time in New York City. Like flip

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    flops in New York City is disgusting.

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    Doesn't work. It's gross.

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    I mean I guess Santa Cruz is nice but

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    how can you run away from those

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    vampires?

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    Yeah in flip flops you can't do it. My

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    first introduction to Santa Cruz was the

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    movie Lost Boys where there were hot

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    vampires.

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    Yeah. Jason Patrick in 1987.

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    So, how were you? How old were you then?

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    I was when that movie came out.

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    When they filmed it, I was 13 and my

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    next door neighbor Joe Ferrara. He owned

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    the comic book store that they use in

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    the movie. So, I got to go on the set of

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    Lost Boys as a 13-year-old

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    and I met Joel Schumacher

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    and I stood outside Cory Hay and Cory

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    Feldman's trailers and watched them walk

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    to their trailers and it was super

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    exciting.

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    That's pretty much but um it was my

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    comic book store. It was the comic book

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    store I go to all the time. So, I saw

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    like how they made it look different for

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    the movie and it was just it was cool.

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    What were comics were you into when you

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    were a kid? I was into I was into like

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    the Freak Brothers and Fat Freddy's Cat.

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    Do you know what these?

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    Nope.

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    So, do you think I just made those up?

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    Fat Freddy's Cat.

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    Fat Freddy's Cat and the and the

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    fabulous furry Freak Brothers. They were

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    like stoner. They were comic books about

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    stoners.

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    Oh, interesting. So, it wasn't more it

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    wasn't like the Marvel universe. Was it

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    I did that for I dabbled in that but I

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    was kind of more into the weird like

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    Zippy the pin head and do you know who

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    that is?

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    I I think I remember that a little bit

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    like when I was older there was it was a

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    like alternative comic

  424. 15:50

    and I don't know why I was into it. Uh

  425. 15:53

    but I I loved the Freak Brothers and I

  426. 15:55

    wasn't smoking pot when I was like a

  427. 15:58

    little kid or anything. I just love

  428. 16:00

    these comic books. I know

  429. 16:01

    you weren't you heard it here first

  430. 16:03

    guys. Adam was not

  431. 16:04

    I mean Santa Cruz I guess it's a kind of

  432. 16:06

    a tossup.

  433. 16:06

    They just blow it into your car. I'm

  434. 16:08

    sure

  435. 16:09

    with the they blow it into your car and

  436. 16:11

    make you take your shoes off.

  437. 16:12

    Yeah. You just flip flops are made out

  438. 16:14

    of weed. I'm sure

  439. 16:15

    you have to smoke your flipflops.

  440. 16:17

    Um I have now interviewed Rudd and Ham.

  441. 16:21

    Ham I haven't gotten into the studio

  442. 16:23

    yet, but I did he did he he um he did

  443. 16:26

    thing.

  444. 16:27

    Yeah, he zoomed in from a hot air

  445. 16:28

    balloon. Yeah, that's right. Um, but we

  446. 16:30

    talked a little bit about you guys all

  447. 16:33

    meeting and being like,

  448. 16:35

    you know, young bucks at the same time,

  449. 16:38

    which is really wild.

  450. 16:40

    Yeah.

  451. 16:41

    Where and they've talked about you.

  452. 16:44

    Where did you see yourself in that trio?

  453. 16:46

    What how would you describe because

  454. 16:48

    you're What would you How would you

  455. 16:49

    describe yourself if you like which

  456. 16:50

    angel are you?

  457. 16:51

    That's so funny. It's true. I always

  458. 16:54

    kind of feel like sort of the little

  459. 16:56

    brother in that trio a little bit

  460. 16:58

    cuz I'm quite a bit younger than both of

  461. 17:01

    them. Obviously that's like

  462. 17:03

    pretty good. Um,

  463. 17:05

    no, I feel like

  464. 17:08

    Rudd I knew Paul I knew first um because

  465. 17:12

    we met I met him at my graduation from

  466. 17:16

    acting school. He was he was a speaker

  467. 17:19

    at the graduation and I

  468. 17:20

    He was talking about acting. No, he was

  469. 17:23

    giving out an award and I was wearing

  470. 17:25

    like this uh polyester red suit

  471. 17:30

    just cuz I uh you know, you're just kind

  472. 17:32

    of looking for attention wherever you

  473. 17:34

    can get it. I guess if you're graduating

  474. 17:35

    from theater school.

  475. 17:37

    Oh, that's so that hit me really hard.

  476. 17:39

    That's so true. You're just like, I'm

  477. 17:40

    going to wear I'm going to dress like a

  478. 17:42

    cowgirl or something and you're like,

  479. 17:44

    I'm really I'm really out there.

  480. 17:45

    Everyone's going to just cheer for me

  481. 17:48

    just because I'm wearing this thing. Um

  482. 17:52

    uh but yeah, we we I remember we hung

  483. 17:55

    out afterwards and he was like, "Nice

  484. 17:57

    suit." Um

  485. 17:58

    so it worked.

  486. 17:59

    It totally worked. Um

  487. 18:01

    but yeah, so so so that was like 1993.

  488. 18:06

    So I've known Paul and then we did a

  489. 18:08

    play together which I think he brought

  490. 18:09

    up on your show um in the fall of 1993.

  491. 18:13

    Now, I remember I got my first acting

  492. 18:15

    job while I was rehearsing that play and

  493. 18:18

    my beeper kept going off while we were

  494. 18:21

    rehearsing and the other guy in the

  495. 18:23

    scene kept turning it off. Um,

  496. 18:25

    passive aggressive

  497. 18:26

    and it was Yeah. Yeah. turning it like

  498. 18:30

    turning off that acting job for me.

  499. 18:32

    He was like, "No." Exactly.

  500. 18:33

    He's like, "We need you to be here."

  501. 18:34

    Trying to stand in front of that acting

  502. 18:36

    job.

  503. 18:36

    Exactly.

  504. 18:37

    Uh that guest spot on Dead at 21. He

  505. 18:40

    didn't want anyone. He He wanted to get

  506. 18:41

    that. And that guy was Leonardo

  507. 18:43

    DiCaprio.

  508. 18:44

    That's right. That's right. And was

  509. 18:47

    never heard from again.

  510. 18:48

    Nope. Never worked again.

  511. 18:50

    Um, so yeah. So I knew Paul then and

  512. 18:52

    then I met Ham like a few years later.

  513. 18:54

    But I mean that is that's a very that's

  514. 18:58

    a very like outsiders young gun kind of

  515. 19:00

    vibe that you guys were all acting like

  516. 19:03

    trying to audition. Yeah. I mean, and in

  517. 19:06

    in the world in in in in the world,

  518. 19:09

    you're very different, but I imagine

  519. 19:10

    like there was I don't know, you could

  520. 19:12

    have done a lot of similar parts and

  521. 19:14

    probably audition for similar things.

  522. 19:16

    Yeah. And I remember once uh John and I

  523. 19:19

    were each doing a different CSI. He was

  524. 19:23

    doing regular CSI. I was doing CSI Miami

  525. 19:25

    and we were shooting like near each

  526. 19:28

    other in Culver City or something and

  527. 19:31

    like met up to go get a a beer

  528. 19:33

    afterwards and I remember just kind of

  529. 19:37

    sitting there and just being like, "How

  530. 19:39

    much longer do you think we're going to

  531. 19:40

    need to be like doing CSI, Mike?"

  532. 19:43

    Because it was years and years for both

  533. 19:46

    of us.

  534. 19:46

    I know. I think it's super satisfying to

  535. 19:50

    talk to you about this stage of your

  536. 19:52

    career cuz like a lot of people I know

  537. 19:56

    frankly you had so much experience

  538. 19:59

    before a lot of America knew you like

  539. 20:02

    and I was talking to like Nick about

  540. 20:04

    this earlier. Oh, I talked to Nick

  541. 20:06

    Offerman about it.

  542. 20:06

    I did.

  543. 20:08

    It was a surprise. But um he wanted to

  544. 20:10

    know um when like when in that in that

  545. 20:14

    part of your career before we all met

  546. 20:16

    And I think he was specifically talking

  547. 20:18

    about when you worked with Martin

  548. 20:19

    Scorsesi, but like what what was when

  549. 20:22

    were you really starruck during that

  550. 20:24

    time?

  551. 20:25

    I was always starruck and never felt

  552. 20:28

    comfortable partially because

  553. 20:32

    and maybe it's similar for you like not

  554. 20:35

    growing up in Los Angeles or in show

  555. 20:38

    business at all like having zero contact

  556. 20:40

    with it. It being on a TV show or being

  557. 20:43

    in a movie felt like going to the moon.

  558. 20:46

    Mhm.

  559. 20:46

    So once you're there, it's just so crazy

  560. 20:49

    that there's a camera and there are

  561. 20:51

    lights and a famous person sitting next

  562. 20:54

    to you that I sort of it took me a

  563. 20:56

    really long time and I think probably

  564. 20:59

    hindered me. It's probably one of the

  565. 21:01

    reasons that I

  566. 21:03

    that it took me a while as I just never

  567. 21:05

    was able to relax because I was so

  568. 21:08

    freaked out by all of it. Um

  569. 21:10

    really

  570. 21:11

    I think so.

  571. 21:11

    Just were you really anxious? really

  572. 21:14

    anxious but really nervous.

  573. 21:15

    Nervous.

  574. 21:16

    And

  575. 21:17

    how did it manifest? Did it manifest or

  576. 21:20

    Yeah, it manifested in me not being and

  577. 21:22

    and I think part of it is and it's

  578. 21:25

    something that I saw you doing pretty

  579. 21:27

    immediately when we started working

  580. 21:29

    together is you were like

  581. 21:32

    you were good with all of it and

  582. 21:35

    comfortable with all of it and you were

  583. 21:39

    able to share yourself with the camera

  584. 21:42

    which is something that took me a long

  585. 21:44

    time to even realize was something you

  586. 21:46

    needed to do beyond figuring out what

  587. 21:49

    the scene was or the characters or

  588. 21:51

    anything like that. You just have to be

  589. 21:53

    able to to open up and share yourself

  590. 21:58

    with it. Does that make sense?

  591. 21:59

    It doesn't. It's so interesting because

  592. 22:00

    it's kind of like what we talked about

  593. 22:03

    like the way in to like when you and any

  594. 22:07

    job the way the way you enter can be

  595. 22:10

    kind of the thing that you identify with

  596. 22:12

    forever like I'm this kind of person.

  597. 22:14

    I'm this kind of performer. And I always

  598. 22:17

    found like when I was in Chicago and

  599. 22:19

    it's funny like Nick is a good example.

  600. 22:20

    Nick was in like the like serious

  601. 22:23

    theater scene and there were the

  602. 22:24

    improvisers and you know people that

  603. 22:27

    came the comedy road. There were the

  604. 22:29

    serious actors who studied acting,

  605. 22:31

    right?

  606. 22:32

    And I used to find that they were so

  607. 22:35

    trained and so good and I felt a little

  608. 22:38

    inferior in terms of skill

  609. 22:40

    but I also thought they took things very

  610. 22:42

    seriously.

  611. 22:43

    Yeah. And because of it, they were

  612. 22:46

    missing that like play

  613. 22:47

    totally like it was all their work was

  614. 22:50

    done when they got to set.

  615. 22:51

    I said this about you and Katherine Han,

  616. 22:54

    two very skilled actors who who who

  617. 22:57

    studied.

  618. 22:58

    You first of all, you knew your lines,

  619. 23:00

    which is important.

  620. 23:02

    Okay, that's your lines.

  621. 23:04

    I did. But I mean I just mean but I mean

  622. 23:06

    you would you would both prepare in a

  623. 23:08

    way that was an you know part of the

  624. 23:11

    process of you working and the

  625. 23:13

    preparation was really impressive. Um

  626. 23:16

    and what I really um loved about working

  627. 23:19

    with you and still do is you are one of

  628. 23:21

    those rare people that you may maybe it

  629. 23:23

    was learned maybe it didn't come right

  630. 23:25

    away but you do have a big sense of

  631. 23:28

    play. You do not come in with some

  632. 23:30

    preconceived notion of how things should

  633. 23:32

    go.

  634. 23:33

    And you can straddle that like really

  635. 23:36

    good, deep acting and really dumb fun

  636. 23:42

    [ __ ]

  637. 23:42

    right?

  638. 23:43

    But that's because Yeah. Yeah. Sorry.

  639. 23:45

    Go.

  640. 23:46

    No. Why? Why do you think that's because

  641. 23:48

    Well, I think that's because I was doing

  642. 23:50

    it with you.

  643. 23:50

    But you were doing it before then, too.

  644. 23:52

    Not really. I mean,

  645. 23:54

    really? Party down,

  646. 23:56

    right? And

  647. 23:57

    but Party Downs,

  648. 23:59

    but Party Down was more scripted. I

  649. 24:01

    mean, we didn't have the like fun runs

  650. 24:03

    and stuff like we did on Parks.

  651. 24:05

    Um, I think Martin Star would improvise

  652. 24:09

    more than anybody. Um, and Step

  653. 24:12

    Brothers, I was just like trying to keep

  654. 24:14

    my head above water. I'd never really

  655. 24:16

    improvised before. So I was like it was

  656. 24:18

    one of the reasons I looking back I was

  657. 24:20

    I I once started really doing parks and

  658. 24:24

    it's like this is the way to do it. This

  659. 24:26

    is like so fun

  660. 24:28

    and um and it's no less satisfying than

  661. 24:33

    some serious thing. It's it's all in

  662. 24:36

    there. The characters are bone deep.

  663. 24:39

    It's so funny. Everyone cares about each

  664. 24:42

    other and it's super fun. Um, so it it

  665. 24:46

    made me kind of think like all those

  666. 24:48

    years I was wasting trying to like get

  667. 24:50

    three lines on NYPD Blue, I could have

  668. 24:53

    been trying to do something at Improv

  669. 24:56

    Olympic or it just it's just you look

  670. 24:58

    back and

  671. 25:00

    it's so funny. I I can remember all the

  672. 25:02

    those years that we all did those movies

  673. 25:04

    big and small parts in them where improv

  674. 25:06

    was so important to make those movies

  675. 25:09

    come alive. But I remember there was

  676. 25:12

    like a tipping point for me one time in

  677. 25:14

    a movie that I did where like there was

  678. 25:16

    just like 10 people like shouting jokes

  679. 25:19

    at me, right,

  680. 25:20

    about like do this and do that. And I

  681. 25:22

    remember going like oh I don't even know

  682. 25:23

    what my character's name is. I don't I

  683. 25:25

    don't even know what my character is.

  684. 25:27

    Like it's so I kind of

  685. 25:29

    It's so interesting you say that because

  686. 25:31

    like it's around that time from like

  687. 25:33

    2005 through like 2013

  688. 25:36

    that was the overwhelming culture on

  689. 25:40

    comedy sets was just a bunch of people

  690. 25:42

    screaming

  691. 25:43

    jokes at you and you just being like

  692. 25:45

    yeah who which one of us says and

  693. 25:47

    they're like either one and you're like

  694. 25:49

    who cares cool yeah I've done a good job

  695. 25:51

    with my character if either one of us

  696. 25:53

    can say this joke. No, I know. And I

  697. 25:55

    feel I it's it's and you like your

  698. 25:58

    career is so interesting. You have done

  699. 26:02

    so many different things. I think it's

  700. 26:04

    what is I I know for me like so exciting

  701. 26:08

    about this moment for you is that um

  702. 26:12

    it's just it there just really nothing

  703. 26:16

    you can't do. Adam,

  704. 26:17

    stop that.

  705. 26:18

    It's so true, dude. So ridiculous. Um,

  706. 26:21

    have But but I think people like to know

  707. 26:24

    these things. Was there ever a part you

  708. 26:26

    auditioned for that you got close on

  709. 26:27

    that you didn't get?

  710. 26:28

    Yeah. Uh, Six Feet Under.

  711. 26:31

    Yeah, that that was the one that I

  712. 26:34

    didn't get. And it's good that

  713. 26:35

    it was for Michael Se Hall's role.

  714. 26:37

    Michael Se Hall's role. And it's good

  715. 26:38

    that I didn't get it because

  716. 26:41

    it wouldn't be nearly as good if I had

  717. 26:45

    done it cuz

  718. 26:47

    um he was perfect and incredible. He's

  719. 26:50

    incredible. And I wasn't ready.

  720. 26:52

    But you mean like it was between you and

  721. 26:54

    two other guys?

  722. 26:55

    He and I tested for it and I believe

  723. 26:58

    that hurts.

  724. 26:59

    I It It was It was the one where I was

  725. 27:01

    like, I might stop doing this. I think

  726. 27:04

    that it's time for me to like read the

  727. 27:08

    tea leaves and walk away. I think people

  728. 27:10

    understand that enough when you we all

  729. 27:12

    have when you lose a part and it's so

  730. 27:14

    close and then the show is this hit and

  731. 27:16

    you watch it.

  732. 27:17

    It really is like

  733. 27:18

    painful

  734. 27:19

    someone [ __ ] your girlfriend in front

  735. 27:20

    of

  736. 27:21

    Yeah.

  737. 27:23

    100%.

  738. 27:23

    You're just like, "Oh my god, this show

  739. 27:25

    is so good and he's so good in

  740. 27:27

    that show." And that show was everything

  741. 27:30

    like it just kind of like eclipsed all

  742. 27:33

    other shows. It was the show I went and

  743. 27:35

    did a couple episodes as Michael's

  744. 27:37

    boyfriend. Oh, that's really

  745. 27:39

    like in season two and

  746. 27:42

    and Michael was like, "You want to see

  747. 27:43

    the trailer you could have?"

  748. 27:44

    Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Everything he

  749. 27:46

    showed me his uh his bank account. Um

  750. 27:49

    no, he he was lovely, of course, and and

  751. 27:52

    it was fun and stuff, but yeah, that was

  752. 27:54

    a blow. That was hard. Um but you know,

  753. 27:58

    that's it's also important that you have

  754. 28:01

    those

  755. 28:03

    those experiences.

  756. 28:04

    Are you good in auditions, do you think?

  757. 28:06

    No. No. No. No. Terrible.

  758. 28:08

    Me too.

  759. 28:08

    I hated it so much. I was so nervous.

  760. 28:11

    You were nervous.

  761. 28:12

    Yeah.

  762. 28:13

    What about you?

  763. 28:14

    Well, I was nervous, too. But the way I

  764. 28:16

    masked my nervousness was, which is not

  765. 28:18

    a great quality, is I would get kind of

  766. 28:20

    like um I would seem kind of ambivalent.

  767. 28:22

    Uhhuh.

  768. 28:23

    Like I would get kind of, you know, when

  769. 28:24

    you get nervous, you get sleepy.

  770. 28:25

    Yh. Y

  771. 28:27

    so I would be very nervous and just like

  772. 28:30

    stomach in knots and and and really

  773. 28:32

    psyching myself out of like just go in

  774. 28:35

    there just just you know just do what

  775. 28:37

    you can do.

  776. 28:38

    Yeah.

  777. 28:38

    But that would tip over into

  778. 28:41

    I don't care.

  779. 28:41

    I don't care.

  780. 28:42

    Yeah.

  781. 28:42

    And what was your audition like for

  782. 28:44

    Park? Did you audition for parks and

  783. 28:46

    No. No. I was lucky.

  784. 28:48

    You just got they gave it to you.

  785. 28:50

    Yeah. Cuz Mike,

  786. 28:54

    I remember the day that my phone had you

  787. 28:58

    and Mike's names on the voicemail thing

  788. 29:02

    and I was like, whoa, is this is it

  789. 29:04

    finally like happening to me cuz I and I

  790. 29:07

    showed someone like look Mike Sher, Amy

  791. 29:10

    Polar and then there was someone else

  792. 29:11

    who was calling me. It was like suddenly

  793. 29:13

    for whatever reason people were there

  794. 29:16

    were incoming calls asking me to do

  795. 29:19

    stuff and then that had never happened

  796. 29:21

    before. Um I don't remember why that

  797. 29:24

    started happening on one particular day

  798. 29:27

    but you left me a voicemail and that was

  799. 29:29

    a huge deal. I'm sure I still have it.

  800. 29:31

    Really?

  801. 29:32

    Yeah. I'm sure I do.

  802. 29:33

    We should put like a techno beat to it.

  803. 29:35

    Totally

  804. 29:35

    put it out.

  805. 29:36

    No, that's when I first heard it I was

  806. 29:37

    like this would make a great song.

  807. 29:40

    This would be a hit. This is catchy.

  808. 29:42

    How does this voicemail catchy to me?

  809. 29:44

    So, wait, just Yes. C can can I just

  810. 29:47

    want to interject so I don't forget

  811. 29:49

    that's what I do. I I always forget [ __ ]

  812. 29:51

    that I was going to say. Every single

  813. 29:54

    day someone tells me Parks got them

  814. 29:58

    through the pandemic. And I heard you

  815. 29:59

    mention it on a previous episode.

  816. 30:01

    Every single day people say, "I watched

  817. 30:04

    it during co I watch it with my kid. My

  818. 30:06

    kid's going through a hard time. I like

  819. 30:09

    to watch it at night because I get I

  820. 30:11

    have a lot of anxiety. Like

  821. 30:13

    I I cannot believe the way that that

  822. 30:16

    show continues to be a a medicine for

  823. 30:20

    people. It's

  824. 30:20

    it's so nice.

  825. 30:22

    And Ben and Lesie.

  826. 30:24

    I know. I know. We just We Do you

  827. 30:27

    remember we were texting just a couple

  828. 30:28

    months ago and just kind of commented on

  829. 30:31

    how nice they are?

  830. 30:33

    They're so nice. They're so much nicer

  831. 30:35

    than us.

  832. 30:36

    So much nicer. And they're so nice to

  833. 30:38

    each other.

  834. 30:39

    I know.

  835. 30:40

    And every every woman deserves a Ben.

  836. 30:42

    Every woman deserves a partner like Ben

  837. 30:44

    who roots for you and like looks at you

  838. 30:49

    and is just like, "That's my gal." Like,

  839. 30:52

    everyone deserves that kind of

  840. 30:54

    relationship.

  841. 30:55

    Lesie from the word go

  842. 30:59

    loved Ben.

  843. 31:00

    Oh beyond.

  844. 31:01

    Like I Now looking back, it's like they

  845. 31:04

    were just in love with each other.

  846. 31:06

    immediately

  847. 31:07

    and their arc was such so juicy. The

  848. 31:09

    writers, Mike and the writers, because

  849. 31:11

    they meet and they're just like,

  850. 31:13

    "Well, what's your deal?"

  851. 31:15

    Oh, yeah. It was like,

  852. 31:16

    and then and then they like each other,

  853. 31:19

    but then they can't

  854. 31:20

    they can't be together.

  855. 31:22

    They can't be together, but she's like,

  856. 31:23

    "Really?" I mean, they probably could

  857. 31:24

    have

  858. 31:25

    I know. It didn't matter, but

  859. 31:27

    And then they

  860. 31:28

    And Mike was like, "This is totally fake

  861. 31:30

    and whatever, but we just need to have

  862. 31:32

    Rob care about you two being together."

  863. 31:34

    And it worked. And it was like made it

  864. 31:36

    even hotter.

  865. 31:38

    And then Ben was like, "I want you."

  866. 31:40

    Like Ben kept putting Leslie's, you know

  867. 31:42

    what it is.

  868. 31:43

    They kept putting each other's needs

  869. 31:46

    over their own. They cared about what

  870. 31:48

    the other one needed and they respected

  871. 31:50

    each other. Like they really liked what

  872. 31:52

    the other one did.

  873. 31:54

    And it was the best thing about that

  874. 31:55

    relationship is how um you know, with

  875. 31:57

    the exception of Ann who is

  876. 31:59

    of course

  877. 32:00

    Leslie's number one. Um

  878. 32:02

    of course uh

  879. 32:03

    I've accepted that.

  880. 32:04

    Yeah. uh is the way that they um they

  881. 32:08

    just rooted for each other.

  882. 32:10

    Yes,

  883. 32:11

    they really rooted for each other.

  884. 32:12

    I I haven't seen a ton of It makes me

  885. 32:15

    sad to watch the show cuz I miss it.

  886. 32:17

    Why did you say that? Why does it make

  887. 32:19

    you sad?

  888. 32:20

    Because I I miss it. I like you were

  889. 32:23

    saying like we really appreciated being

  890. 32:26

    there every day and it was so fun. And

  891. 32:29

    also just sort of walking in that

  892. 32:31

    building and then suddenly you're there

  893. 32:33

    and the hallways and the

  894. 32:35

    Yeah,

  895. 32:35

    it was so fun and the people I just

  896. 32:38

    loved everybody. But I guess maybe it

  897. 32:40

    just That's a good question. Why does it

  898. 32:43

    actually make me sad?

  899. 32:43

    I think I know is cuz you're stuck in

  900. 32:45

    that [ __ ] weirdo.

  901. 32:48

    You're running.

  902. 32:50

    I told Adam I was like too much running.

  903. 32:52

    Too much running. Yeah, I know. I was so

  904. 32:55

    tired.

  905. 32:56

    I mean just exhaust and there's you

  906. 32:58

    don't even know where you're going. I

  907. 32:59

    mean, every hallway looks the same.

  908. 33:00

    I know. Get lost. Get lost every day.

  909. 33:03

    It's just that's why

  910. 33:04

    it's exhausting and confusing.

  911. 33:07

    Yes,

  912. 33:08

    I know. Pawny hallways.

  913. 33:10

    People are dying in your new workplace.

  914. 33:12

    Like, they're getting killed.

  915. 33:14

    Pawnie, everyone's nice. There's a

  916. 33:17

    graphic painting of a massacre on the

  917. 33:20

    wall, but it's covered up. That's true.

  918. 33:22

    That's okay.

  919. 33:23

    It was a terrible massacre. Um, but

  920. 33:25

    something I saw recently is our very

  921. 33:28

    first scene in that bar when

  922. 33:30

    I love that scene.

  923. 33:31

    Me too.

  924. 33:32

    So well written, that scene.

  925. 33:33

    Yes. And

  926. 33:35

    we're having a beer and I say Ben says,

  927. 33:38

    "Yeah, but you want to you're going to

  928. 33:40

    run for and and like immediately just

  929. 33:42

    knows that Leslie has the these

  930. 33:45

    ambitions." Yes.

  931. 33:46

    That it seemed that you'd never even

  932. 33:48

    said out loud before, but is 100% what

  933. 33:52

    you planned on doing. It was just such a

  934. 33:54

    great little

  935. 33:55

    Yes. What they saw they saw in each

  936. 33:57

    other the dream for the other like they

  937. 34:01

    just they kept like they assumed the

  938. 34:04

    best and they saw

  939. 34:07

    the potential in each other basically. I

  940. 34:09

    know it was so fun to play that. And I

  941. 34:11

    was saying too that I I for this

  942. 34:13

    interview I rewatched your first scene

  943. 34:15

    which it's so good because Nick and I

  944. 34:18

    are on the we you know Ron and I never

  945. 34:21

    sat on this. We never even sat down next

  946. 34:23

    to each other.

  947. 34:24

    Usually you were at Loggerhead.

  948. 34:25

    Yeah. We were across from each other

  949. 34:27

    and so it's like you've got the kind of

  950. 34:30

    like

  951. 34:30

    Pawnie side and then you and Rob come in

  952. 34:33

    with suits,

  953. 34:34

    right?

  954. 34:35

    And it's like who are these whippers

  955. 34:36

    snipers?

  956. 34:42

    first,

  957. 34:46

    who is this new person?

  958. 34:48

    Who are these guys? Yeah.

  959. 34:56

    What was it like to join a show that was

  960. 34:59

    in motion that you had watched already

  961. 35:02

    on TV?

  962. 35:02

    It was so weird. Um, but immediately

  963. 35:06

    fun. Like even the first table read, I

  964. 35:08

    remember I was like I got I walked in

  965. 35:11

    the room like 1 minute after I was

  966. 35:14

    supposed to be there. So I was already

  967. 35:15

    like thrown like I'm [ __ ] late to my

  968. 35:19

    first Jesus Christ. And but it was

  969. 35:22

    immediately so warm and welcoming and

  970. 35:25

    super fun. People Everybody's laughing

  971. 35:28

    at the incredible jokes in the script.

  972. 35:32

    But then when we started shooting, um, I

  973. 35:35

    mean, you you know, you it was a it was

  974. 35:38

    a a welcoming place. It immediately kind

  975. 35:40

    of fostered encouraged your best, but

  976. 35:44

    also

  977. 35:46

    um to take swings and shots without any

  978. 35:51

    sort of fear of doing the wrong thing.

  979. 35:55

    That was just never really there. And

  980. 35:57

    then that short season was kind of short

  981. 35:59

    when we started because I was

  982. 36:00

    Prager's

  983. 36:02

    and it's not always easy like getting

  984. 36:06

    chemistry going with a gal who's like

  985. 36:08

    hiding her stomach behind a plant.

  986. 36:10

    Easy,

  987. 36:11

    but it was I remember just being like,

  988. 36:13

    "Oh, bless your heart, Adam." The other

  989. 36:15

    thing I just like that I feel like I am

  990. 36:18

    proud of during that is the way in which

  991. 36:22

    and I I said it before but I feel like

  992. 36:24

    the way in which in real time I it it's

  993. 36:27

    a job that I felt the most present in

  994. 36:31

    SNL felt like a you know a speeding

  995. 36:34

    train an emergency room and I learned

  996. 36:37

    really fast and hard lessons really fast

  997. 36:40

    and for

  998. 36:41

    everyone on parks I felt like we were

  999. 36:43

    all kind kind of in this tender bubble

  1000. 36:46

    because we often thought we were going

  1001. 36:48

    to get

  1002. 36:48

    cancelled

  1003. 36:49

    where

  1004. 36:51

    we just kind of knew what we had. I

  1005. 36:53

    don't know.

  1006. 36:54

    I think that you guys did a really good

  1007. 36:56

    job because all the stuff about us

  1008. 36:57

    almost getting cancelled. I think we all

  1009. 36:59

    kind of sensed something, but I don't

  1010. 37:01

    think any of us except you and I think

  1011. 37:03

    you and Mike protected us from a lot of

  1012. 37:05

    that, which is great producing and

  1013. 37:08

    really taking care of all of us.

  1014. 37:11

    Um,

  1015. 37:12

    I don't think we were ever quite I've

  1016. 37:15

    kind of heard all of it since. Um, but

  1017. 37:17

    it was pretty tenuous there at the end

  1018. 37:20

    of the seasons.

  1019. 37:21

    Yeah. Yeah.

  1020. 37:22

    Which is scary.

  1021. 37:23

    You're a great producer. What do you

  1022. 37:24

    like about producing? Speaking of

  1023. 37:26

    producing.

  1024. 37:26

    That's nice of you to say. Um, I learned

  1025. 37:30

    a lot watching you work and working with

  1026. 37:33

    you, both as a producer, but also as the

  1027. 37:36

    lead actor. like you really kind of set

  1028. 37:39

    the template for me

  1029. 37:42

    truly um how everyone should and

  1030. 37:46

    deserves to be treated

  1031. 37:48

    cast and crew and all of that. I always

  1032. 37:50

    kind of directing specifically is like

  1033. 37:53

    cuz you're looking at a monitor all day.

  1034. 37:55

    It's like getting to watch television

  1035. 37:57

    which is like one of my favorite things

  1036. 37:58

    to do except you get to go in and try to

  1037. 38:00

    make it better. And producing is

  1038. 38:02

    somewhat similar in that you're spending

  1039. 38:04

    all of your time just trying to nitpick

  1040. 38:07

    and find all of the things that don't

  1041. 38:10

    work and find solutions for all of them

  1042. 38:13

    or or making sure everybody's happy and

  1043. 38:16

    feeling good about what they're doing.

  1044. 38:17

    That's another important component that

  1045. 38:20

    I really learned from you and Mike, too.

  1046. 38:22

    It's so important that everybody is

  1047. 38:25

    feeling like they're a part of it, like

  1048. 38:27

    a useful cog in the machine, and that

  1049. 38:29

    there it's a satisfying job for them.

  1050. 38:32

    Now, do you guys have um for severance,

  1051. 38:35

    uh which by the way, congratulations.

  1052. 38:36

    Thanks.

  1053. 38:37

    And get that Emmy speech ready, baby.

  1054. 38:40

    Get that Emmy speech ready, honey,

  1055. 38:43

    please.

  1056. 38:43

    Um but um

  1057. 38:46

    get it ready. But um

  1058. 38:50

    uh when you um when you shoot that show,

  1059. 38:53

    is it I just feel like it's a really I

  1060. 38:56

    mean it's so beautifully shot, you have

  1061. 38:59

    such great uh set design. You have tons

  1062. 39:03

    of like it just seems like it's a long

  1063. 39:06

    How many days take is one episode take?

  1064. 39:09

    Well, it depends.

  1065. 39:10

    It's long, right?

  1066. 39:11

    It's long. The season 2 I think it was

  1067. 39:15

    186 days.

  1068. 39:16

    Wow. for the season, which is a a long

  1069. 39:20

    time, you know. I mean, I think like one

  1070. 39:22

    episode took like six weeks and then I

  1071. 39:25

    think it's kind of average out because

  1072. 39:26

    we shoot them like three at a time all

  1073. 39:29

    mixed up together crossboard is the you

  1074. 39:32

    do that. Okay.

  1075. 39:33

    Season one we shot the entire thing at

  1076. 39:36

    once. So like in month nine we were

  1077. 39:39

    still shooting scenes from the first

  1078. 39:41

    episode. But the thing that that did,

  1079. 39:44

    the accidental thing that that did is,

  1080. 39:46

    you know, the first few episodes of any

  1081. 39:48

    show are a little shaky and everyone's

  1082. 39:50

    finding their tone a little bit or

  1083. 39:52

    characters or whatever. It spread that

  1084. 39:54

    out over the entire season. So it kind

  1085. 39:56

    of felt more or less

  1086. 40:00

    fully real, you know, in a way fully

  1087. 40:02

    realized from the start, but the shaky

  1088. 40:04

    scenes are kind of distributed over the

  1089. 40:07

    over the um

  1090. 40:09

    you do so much switcheroo in that show.

  1091. 40:12

    I mean like you have to act against

  1092. 40:14

    yourself. You have to figure out

  1093. 40:16

    versions of yourself truly that change

  1094. 40:18

    mid scene, let alone mid-sentence. Do

  1095. 40:21

    you have a script supervisor or a graph

  1096. 40:23

    or someone that keeps that? How do you

  1097. 40:26

    keep track of that?

  1098. 40:27

    Yeah. Um, that's a good question. I in

  1099. 40:30

    season one, I remember I had heard that

  1100. 40:32

    Michael Keaton had this big like these

  1101. 40:34

    big poster boards for multiplicity where

  1102. 40:37

    he kept track of all of his characters

  1103. 40:40

    and I got large like construction paper.

  1104. 40:44

    I remember I was staying in Aziz's

  1105. 40:46

    apartment in season one. And so I was

  1106. 40:48

    like I remember putting it out on the

  1107. 40:50

    floor and getting like a marker and

  1108. 40:52

    drawing a line and like trying to like

  1109. 40:56

    mark down like the scenes and the

  1110. 40:58

    episodes and eventually was like I I

  1111. 41:00

    don't know what I'm and I just stopped

  1112. 41:02

    doing that. I just gave up. But um I

  1113. 41:06

    think it's uh you just sort of map it

  1114. 41:09

    out and then just like a math problem.

  1115. 41:12

    is try to kind of lock in what's going

  1116. 41:14

    on.

  1117. 41:15

    Particularly if you're shooting it all

  1118. 41:17

    at once, you have to sort of make some

  1119. 41:19

    decisions and and um we would go back

  1120. 41:22

    and forth between characters sometimes

  1121. 41:23

    in

  1122. 41:24

    in one like in the morning we would do

  1123. 41:26

    iny stuff and in the afternoon do udy

  1124. 41:29

    stuff.

  1125. 41:29

    Ah interesting.

  1126. 41:30

    Yeah. And so

  1127. 41:31

    Oh, that's interesting. Yeah.

  1128. 41:32

    So you like iny before lunch outy after

  1129. 41:34

    lunch.

  1130. 41:35

    That's right.

  1131. 41:36

    Which is good cuz you're slowed down

  1132. 41:37

    after lunch.

  1133. 41:38

    You want to let it outy.

  1134. 41:39

    Yeah. Yeah. You got to get it out.

  1135. 41:40

    You got to get it out.

  1136. 41:41

    Yeah. Yeah,

  1137. 41:41

    you let it iny, then you got to get it

  1138. 41:43

    out.

  1139. 41:46

    I mean, it's such a such an indication

  1140. 41:47

    of how well that show um uh trapped us

  1141. 41:52

    because in the in this last season, just

  1142. 41:55

    so incredible. The finale was so

  1143. 41:56

    incredible.

  1144. 41:57

    Thanks. What?

  1145. 42:00

    Your wife,

  1146. 42:02

    right?

  1147. 42:03

    She went

  1148. 42:05

    pretty hard to get back to you.

  1149. 42:07

    Yeah, I know,

  1150. 42:08

    dude.

  1151. 42:08

    I know. Were you pissed?

  1152. 42:11

    Yeah.

  1153. 42:11

    Yeah. Yeah.

  1154. 42:13

    And Britt is incredible. I got to do a

  1155. 42:16

    movie with Brit.

  1156. 42:17

    Yeah, that's right. You guys did

  1157. 42:18

    Yeah, we did this movie Sisters and she

  1158. 42:20

    was so fun in it and so funny. She's

  1159. 42:22

    great in the show. But

  1160. 42:25

    well, what other choice was any Mark?

  1161. 42:28

    I don't know the choice whether you're

  1162. 42:29

    going with your wife.

  1163. 42:30

    So walk out the door and like end your

  1164. 42:32

    life and

  1165. 42:34

    Yes, you go to the door.

  1166. 42:36

    That's the choice you would.

  1167. 42:37

    What do you mean end your life? He walks

  1168. 42:39

    out that door. He doesn't know if he's

  1169. 42:41

    ever coming back. He He walks out that

  1170. 42:44

    door, he becomes his Audi. He doesn't

  1171. 42:46

    know if that Audi is ever going to walk

  1172. 42:48

    back in that building.

  1173. 42:49

    But that building is not great.

  1174. 42:52

    No, but it's better than not existing.

  1175. 42:54

    But it Yeah. I don't know. That's a good

  1176. 42:56

    question.

  1177. 42:57

    That was such a good ending. It was like

  1178. 42:59

    standing up shouting at the TV ending.

  1179. 43:02

    It was so good. And you played it so

  1180. 43:04

    well and it was so exciting to watch

  1181. 43:06

    that ending. It was so satisfying.

  1182. 43:08

    You were nice. texted me like right

  1183. 43:10

    after and you you text pretty promptly

  1184. 43:13

    after things and it always means the

  1185. 43:16

    most when you text me. It really does.

  1186. 43:18

    I mean it means the most that I get to

  1187. 43:19

    have friends that I mean can for people

  1188. 43:21

    listening can you imagine your favorite

  1189. 43:22

    t it's the best feeling in the world

  1190. 43:24

    your favorite TV show and then you get

  1191. 43:27

    to text the person on it immediately and

  1192. 43:29

    be like what the [ __ ]

  1193. 43:30

    right

  1194. 43:31

    and you know and it's not like you get

  1195. 43:33

    any spoilers but you just get to like be

  1196. 43:35

    like you get to process

  1197. 43:37

    Yeah. Like I think growing up if I ever,

  1198. 43:39

    you know, if I had ever been able to, I

  1199. 43:41

    don't know, text Molly Ringwald, right,

  1200. 43:44

    and be like,

  1201. 43:45

    "Dude,

  1202. 43:46

    you, why didn't you pick Ducky?"

  1203. 43:48

    Ducky man.

  1204. 43:48

    Ducky was the dude.

  1205. 43:50

    Um, or like I remember I wrote viewer

  1206. 43:53

    mail to David Letterman

  1207. 43:56

    and just never, you know, it just kind

  1208. 43:58

    of went off and and disintegrated in the

  1209. 44:01

    mail.

  1210. 44:01

    And you were like, Dave?

  1211. 44:03

    Yeah, Dave. Hey,

  1212. 44:04

    I remember I came up with this whole

  1213. 44:05

    thing that I thought they would use to

  1214. 44:08

    create a bid around that I thought would

  1215. 44:09

    be

  1216. 44:10

    so lame. Yeah, people should know this

  1217. 44:12

    about you. You have great hair and you

  1218. 44:14

    do not have a system. That is your hair.

  1219. 44:17

    Do you mean like a toupe?

  1220. 44:19

    I I don't know. Just you don't have a

  1221. 44:20

    system, whatever that is. And there's

  1222. 44:22

    nothing wrong with having it.

  1223. 44:24

    No, look, there is nothing wrong with a

  1224. 44:26

    system.

  1225. 44:26

    Nothing wrong with a hair system,

  1226. 44:28

    men and women. I'm just saying that Adam

  1227. 44:30

    has great hair and

  1228. 44:33

    you do you think it's because you're

  1229. 44:34

    Scottish? Aren't you Scottish? And

  1230. 44:36

    I'm Scottish. I'm Sicilian. Oh,

  1231. 44:39

    okay. That maybe it's that.

  1232. 44:41

    I don't know. But also, I started taking

  1233. 44:44

    Propezia when I was like 30 years old.

  1234. 44:47

    Really?

  1235. 44:48

    Yeah. It started it started coming out

  1236. 44:50

    um pretty like when I was like 30ish.

  1237. 44:54

    Um, yeah. I mean, everyone on Park's

  1238. 44:57

    room, all the guys had great hair.

  1239. 44:59

    Yes. And all the men and Katherine Han

  1240. 45:01

    had great hair.

  1241. 45:02

    Han has great hair.

  1242. 45:03

    And then I don't think Rashida would

  1243. 45:04

    mind or Aubrey would mind that we all

  1244. 45:06

    felt like we had

  1245. 45:09

    our hair was

  1246. 45:12

    it was just it's just thin.

  1247. 45:13

    Oh.

  1248. 45:13

    But um it was all the men would just

  1249. 45:16

    have these like giant heads of hair.

  1250. 45:18

    That's right.

  1251. 45:19

    like and it just and just I mean Nick

  1252. 45:22

    would grow a beard in a day. Like he

  1253. 45:24

    would

  1254. 45:24

    Yeah. Yeah. That mustache is like what

  1255. 45:27

    is it 45 minutes he can grow that?

  1256. 45:29

    Yeah, he can grow it in 45 minutes if he

  1257. 45:30

    just goes

  1258. 45:31

    Yeah. He has to push really hard.

  1259. 45:33

    Um but one more severance question which

  1260. 45:36

    is um uh what is happening on it? What

  1261. 45:41

    is it? And

  1262. 45:44

    what what happened?

  1263. 45:45

    Right. What's going on?

  1264. 45:46

    And what's going on? what happened and

  1265. 45:49

    what is it?

  1266. 45:50

    But you do host a podcast. How has that

  1267. 45:52

    been?

  1268. 45:53

    Ben and I host it.

  1269. 45:54

    Yeah. How has it been doing that? Like

  1270. 45:55

    what's it like to talk about the show

  1271. 45:57

    that you're

  1272. 45:58

    It's actually been um we did we

  1273. 46:01

    originally it was actually Naomi's idea.

  1274. 46:03

    She was like you guys like because it

  1275. 46:05

    had been 3 years since season 1. We were

  1276. 46:07

    just like we were just worried about

  1277. 46:10

    everyone that watched the first season

  1278. 46:11

    coming back. So, we're just trying to

  1279. 46:13

    think of ways to and Naomi thought, "You

  1280. 46:16

    got you know, you guys should do this."

  1281. 46:17

    And um it actually was it's so fun to

  1282. 46:21

    just go back and really be able to to

  1283. 46:24

    watch the episodes as finished things

  1284. 46:27

    and talk over it with the actors or, you

  1285. 46:30

    know, crew members or or whomever. um

  1286. 46:33

    and kind of talk about it as audience

  1287. 46:36

    members and kind of dipping into uh what

  1288. 46:39

    we remember, what we intended and you

  1289. 46:42

    know all that stuff.

  1290. 46:43

    Cool. And do you remember the YouTube

  1291. 46:45

    podcast you used to do with Aur?

  1292. 46:46

    Yes.

  1293. 46:47

    What if I didn't remember it?

  1294. 46:49

    Do you remember? That's such a bad

  1295. 46:50

    question. Do you remember?

  1296. 46:53

    Because it's something that you could

  1297. 46:55

    forget. People also don't know that you

  1298. 46:58

    did a podcast about you too and it was

  1299. 47:00

    called

  1300. 47:01

    you talk and you two to me.

  1301. 47:05

    Why? Why did you do a podcast about you

  1302. 47:07

    two?

  1303. 47:07

    We did it because we found out that we

  1304. 47:11

    were both you fans and there was

  1305. 47:14

    something funny about doing a doing it

  1306. 47:16

    because YouTube is so huge. There was

  1307. 47:19

    something funny about doing it's almost

  1308. 47:21

    like doing a podcast about like Sizzler

  1309. 47:24

    or something. I love YouTube, but

  1310. 47:27

    they're big and so and I don't know.

  1311. 47:29

    It's hard to pinpoint exactly why it's

  1312. 47:31

    funny to do the thing and that wasn't

  1313. 47:34

    the right analogy, but um we both found

  1314. 47:38

    out that that that Kulop Scott's wife

  1315. 47:41

    and Nam were sick of hearing about you

  1316. 47:44

    two and didn't want to talk about it

  1317. 47:45

    anymore. And so we I think maybe Seth

  1318. 47:49

    Meyer said something on this show about

  1319. 47:52

    being a middle-aged man. If you want to

  1320. 47:54

    have middle-aged male friendships, you

  1321. 47:56

    need to do a podcast together.

  1322. 47:58

    Oh my god. Yes. Yeah. I mean, it is it

  1323. 48:02

    it's one of the things I love about you

  1324. 48:04

    is you have a very back of the classroom

  1325. 48:07

    style of comedy. Like you are a side

  1326. 48:10

    like you're the like out of your mouth

  1327. 48:11

    talker. You're a [ __ ] talker. Um, not in

  1328. 48:15

    a bad way, but you like, you know, you

  1329. 48:17

    are you are

  1330. 48:18

    you can be like the a love tap from Adam

  1331. 48:22

    is like a quick, you know, to me that's

  1332. 48:26

    what intimacy is is when you can like

  1333. 48:29

    [ __ ] talk your friends. Um, and you like

  1334. 48:33

    to mumble out of the side of your mouth

  1335. 48:35

    in the back of the class.

  1336. 48:36

    Sure. But what comes what what's great

  1337. 48:38

    about that is along with that comes like

  1338. 48:41

    you like deep dives into

  1339. 48:46

    dumb stuff.

  1340. 48:46

    Dumb stuff.

  1341. 48:48

    Like getting dumb stuff and and like

  1342. 48:50

    elevating it by the way you talk about

  1343. 48:52

    it. Have you always been like that?

  1344. 48:54

    Maybe

  1345. 48:54

    cuz you were a big TV and movie fan

  1346. 48:56

    girl. Like you just were a kind of a

  1347. 48:58

    nerd in that way when you talked about

  1348. 48:59

    comic books. I mean

  1349. 49:01

    yeah I know there's nothing nerdier than

  1350. 49:02

    a [ __ ] comic book. But like

  1351. 49:05

    particularly Fat Freddy's cat. Um

  1352. 49:09

    uh yeah, I think that and I think doing

  1353. 49:11

    it on a podcast is extra good because

  1354. 49:13

    you can edit it and make it shorter

  1355. 49:16

    now that you're my we're the same age.

  1356. 49:18

    Are you like a year younger than me?

  1357. 49:19

    I think we're the same.

  1358. 49:21

    Do you have like hobbies now that you're

  1359. 49:23

    getting into like you know how we are

  1360. 49:25

    like that happens to us like where we're

  1361. 49:27

    like I want to

  1362. 49:29

    start

  1363. 49:29

    sculpt gardening stuff like do you do

  1364. 49:32

    that? No, I've never I I have like

  1365. 49:36

    in the garage is like a bicycle and a um

  1366. 49:40

    what did I have? I had a telescope that

  1367. 49:43

    I

  1368. 49:44

    got like a really nice telescope and

  1369. 49:46

    never once used it.

  1370. 49:50

    Um a bicycle that I rode once. Um I

  1371. 49:54

    don't I've been looking for I don't

  1372. 49:57

    I I like working and and I like Do Do

  1373. 50:00

    you have a thing? No, it's funny you say

  1374. 50:02

    that about a telescope. That is such a

  1375. 50:05

    like, you know what? I'm going to get a

  1376. 50:06

    nice telescope.

  1377. 50:07

    Get a [ __ ] telescope.

  1378. 50:08

    I deserve it.

  1379. 50:09

    Yeah, I know. Look at the stars.

  1380. 50:11

    I mean, who are we?

  1381. 50:12

    Yeah.

  1382. 50:13

    On this tiny marble.

  1383. 50:14

    There's a moon. It's up there every

  1384. 50:16

    night. I've never taken a good look at

  1385. 50:17

    it.

  1386. 50:19

    And then I just never looked at it.

  1387. 50:21

    Just cut to a dusty place to hang your

  1388. 50:23

    clothes.

  1389. 50:24

    I don't care about the moon that that

  1390. 50:26

    much. Um,

  1391. 50:27

    I guess what I'm asking underneath that

  1392. 50:29

    question is like you've been working

  1393. 50:31

    really hard for a long time. What's your

  1394. 50:33

    relationship to work and to hard work

  1395. 50:35

    and do you

  1396. 50:36

    That's a good question. I feel like it's

  1397. 50:38

    um it's all mixed up and somewhat

  1398. 50:41

    dysfunctional. You know what I was

  1399. 50:42

    thinking about actually and it's sort of

  1400. 50:45

    on the same line of thinking is is that

  1401. 50:48

    you mentioned SNL earlier and

  1402. 50:50

    something that I realized recently was

  1403. 50:53

    when I really kind of met you and got to

  1404. 50:56

    know you SNL was only like what 2 years

  1405. 51:00

    ago a year and a half before Parks.

  1406. 51:03

    Yeah. Like it was a fresh thing and what

  1407. 51:07

    an intense experience and what a giant

  1408. 51:10

    change work-wise from that environment

  1409. 51:13

    and that the pressure of that to the

  1410. 51:17

    pressure of of parks which was an

  1411. 51:19

    enormous amount of pressure but entirely

  1412. 51:21

    different.

  1413. 51:22

    It must have been that must have been

  1414. 51:24

    something that you that took a while to

  1415. 51:27

    kind of settle and grapple with.

  1416. 51:29

    Yeah. I mean the what I was lucky about

  1417. 51:32

    almost was how much I had to do. I felt

  1418. 51:37

    like if I had been playing if if Leslie

  1419. 51:40

    Nope was a character that worked three

  1420. 51:41

    days a week

  1421. 51:43

    uh I feel like I would have been

  1422. 51:45

    struggling because to your point I just

  1423. 51:48

    had to I like made a lot of I feel like

  1424. 51:50

    swings and misses in the beginning like

  1425. 51:52

    the show did kind of did too, right?

  1426. 51:54

    like the I think we were all trying to

  1427. 51:56

    figure out what the show was and I think

  1428. 51:58

    it just took me a while to settle down.

  1429. 52:01

    You know, I used to make a joke when I

  1430. 52:02

    would be in people's movies, I'd be

  1431. 52:03

    like, you know, when you get into

  1432. 52:04

    someone else's car and the music's too

  1433. 52:06

    loud,

  1434. 52:07

    that may be how I am. Like, feel free to

  1435. 52:10

    turn me down. And I think it took a

  1436. 52:12

    while and honestly, Adam, so much of it

  1437. 52:14

    was our work together where I felt like

  1438. 52:18

    grounded

  1439. 52:19

    on the ground as a performer enough to

  1440. 52:22

    just settle because so much of the

  1441. 52:24

    beginning was

  1442. 52:27

    sketch energy, which is different,

  1443. 52:29

    right? Which is all about right now. We

  1444. 52:32

    got to like make it great. I mean, I

  1445. 52:34

    don't know. I'm just guessing that it's

  1446. 52:36

    all about like an immediate thing that

  1447. 52:38

    you have to put everything into.

  1448. 52:40

    Yeah. Yeah. And Yeah.

  1449. 52:41

    Yeah. And I think one of the things that

  1450. 52:44

    was so fun about what we got to do is

  1451. 52:47

    the camera

  1452. 52:49

    helped us

  1453. 52:52

    at least it helped me have my feelings

  1454. 52:55

    about, you know, there I I tell people

  1455. 52:57

    like, "Of course you of course we love

  1456. 53:00

    Ben. We got to like Ben. We watch Ben

  1457. 53:03

    watch Leslie and we love Leslie." So

  1458. 53:06

    like when people love Leslie, we love

  1459. 53:08

    them. And we got to watch Ben love her

  1460. 53:12

    because the camera w like we got to do

  1461. 53:14

    so much indirect stuff like we didn't

  1462. 53:17

    have to face to face all the time. We

  1463. 53:19

    had feelings our characters had feelings

  1464. 53:20

    for each other because of the camera.

  1465. 53:22

    And

  1466. 53:22

    that's right

  1467. 53:23

    the even though I mean and it's such a

  1468. 53:25

    beautiful

  1469. 53:26

    uh genre that mockumentary because it

  1470. 53:29

    allows you to just even create space and

  1471. 53:33

    depth in the shot. People are just not

  1472. 53:34

    in the same room.

  1473. 53:35

    That's right. And like I remember we

  1474. 53:37

    always used to say we loved it when

  1475. 53:39

    there were spy shots through like blinds

  1476. 53:41

    because it made our acting better. You

  1477. 53:43

    remember that?

  1478. 53:44

    Yes. Do

  1479. 53:45

    you also remember this thing we used to

  1480. 53:46

    do where sometimes we would be doing a

  1481. 53:48

    scene and we'd be like, "Okay, I can't

  1482. 53:51

    I'm not someone who can predict the

  1483. 53:53

    future 100%." But I will say it was like

  1484. 53:58

    a couple times a season. I will say I

  1485. 54:00

    can say with 100% certainty that neither

  1486. 54:04

    of us will ever win an award for acting

  1487. 54:08

    for this scene.

  1488. 54:12

    Totally.

  1489. 54:12

    You would say it sometimes and sometimes

  1490. 54:14

    you know what let's just I mean and also

  1491. 54:17

    on the other side I would sometimes say

  1492. 54:19

    you know and I said this on the podcast

  1493. 54:21

    like I would say like Adam your acting

  1494. 54:22

    is so good. You'd be like shut up. We're

  1495. 54:25

    in the middle of the scene. like because

  1496. 54:27

    it was like oh my god. Um I mean it but

  1497. 54:31

    Oh yeah. I mean that's what I love about

  1498. 54:33

    working with you and I just feel like

  1499. 54:35

    before we end like I just want to feed

  1500. 54:37

    our fans a little bit more which is what

  1501. 54:40

    um

  1502. 54:42

    what do you think was the most romantic

  1503. 54:44

    scene between Ben and Lesie?

  1504. 54:45

    Oh man,

  1505. 54:48

    it's so sweet.

  1506. 54:49

    I know. But what was the most

  1507. 54:50

    the most romantic? I think I think well

  1508. 54:56

    there are a couple of nominees.

  1509. 54:59

    Okay.

  1510. 54:59

    But I think I think maybe smallest park

  1511. 55:04

    cuz I

  1512. 55:05

    I just heard a little groan.

  1513. 55:07

    I hope it's a good groan.

  1514. 55:09

    Someone just being like

  1515. 55:12

    I love smallest park.

  1516. 55:13

    Me too.

  1517. 55:14

    Nicole Holiff Center. The great Nicole

  1518. 55:15

    Holl Center directed that.

  1519. 55:16

    Chelsea wrote that. Chelsea Peretti

  1520. 55:18

    wrote that episode

  1521. 55:20

    and I remember really

  1522. 55:23

    like feeling connected shooting that and

  1523. 55:26

    just being like this is kind of feeling

  1524. 55:29

    like how special it was.

  1525. 55:31

    Yes.

  1526. 55:32

    Making the show and that was

  1527. 55:35

    Yeah, that was but I don't know what

  1528. 55:38

    what do you think?

  1529. 55:39

    Well, I have a lot I I mean I feel like

  1530. 55:42

    that was such a big one. I feel like

  1531. 55:44

    some of the I have such a affinity for

  1532. 55:47

    the beginning beginnings parts of Ben

  1533. 55:50

    and Leslie because I do think it also

  1534. 55:52

    just reminded me of like we were

  1535. 55:54

    you know the show was deciding that they

  1536. 55:56

    were going to love each other too.

  1537. 55:58

    Yeah.

  1538. 55:58

    And um

  1539. 56:01

    I really love this tiny moment when they

  1540. 56:04

    realize they have they like the same

  1541. 56:06

    spot when they like to sit under the

  1542. 56:09

    sunflower mural. Well,

  1543. 56:11

    I love that moment

  1544. 56:12

    when I ask you if you know where that

  1545. 56:15

    mural is and your response is really

  1546. 56:19

    it's a rewindable moment.

  1547. 56:21

    I love that moment between both of us

  1548. 56:23

    because and of course Parks then pays it

  1549. 56:26

    off years later.

  1550. 56:27

    Years later

  1551. 56:29

    by sitting underneath it.

  1552. 56:30

    Yep.

  1553. 56:31

    Um I also, you know, when we shot Ben

  1554. 56:34

    and Leslie's wedding, it was so fun. It

  1555. 56:36

    was like we were all just sitting there

  1556. 56:38

    all day goofing around.

  1557. 56:40

    Um, and it was so fun. And like

  1558. 56:42

    I think we had real champagne, too.

  1559. 56:44

    Maybe.

  1560. 56:45

    We probably did.

  1561. 56:46

    Yeah,

  1562. 56:46

    we probably did. And then that probably

  1563. 56:48

    became a problem later in the day.

  1564. 56:50

    Yeah, probably champagne. Not something

  1565. 56:52

    to have when you're when you have like a

  1566. 56:56

    10-hour workday ahead of you. Speaking

  1567. 56:58

    of champagne, maybe our fans would like

  1568. 57:00

    to know that on our last day of shooting

  1569. 57:02

    or one of our last days, like speaking

  1570. 57:04

    of like romantic goodbyes, we all

  1571. 57:09

    climbed up on the top of the hair and

  1572. 57:12

    makeup trailer

  1573. 57:14

    and like did a big toast up there cuz we

  1574. 57:16

    shot on uh at a a studio called CBS

  1575. 57:19

    Radford

  1576. 57:20

    and it was very like we wrote our names

  1577. 57:22

    on the wall. We were sharing a studio.

  1578. 57:26

    We had Who had been there before?

  1579. 57:27

    Malcolm in the middle.

  1580. 57:29

    Yeah.

  1581. 57:29

    And maybe Sein No,

  1582. 57:31

    Seinfeld was on the lot, but not that

  1583. 57:34

    particular stage. Naomi and I have our

  1584. 57:36

    office at Radford.

  1585. 57:37

    You do?

  1586. 57:38

    Yeah.

  1587. 57:40

    I walk over there all the time.

  1588. 57:41

    That would have been my first time shoot

  1589. 57:43

    really shooting anything on a stu. I had

  1590. 57:45

    never had like a studio experience

  1591. 57:46

    before and I was so lucky to do it

  1592. 57:48

    there.

  1593. 57:48

    But yeah, we like got up on the trailer.

  1594. 57:51

    I mean, there was just so many proper

  1595. 57:53

    goodbyes for that show. We really And

  1596. 57:56

    Mike and the writers really landed that

  1597. 57:58

    plane.

  1598. 57:59

    Yeah.

  1599. 58:00

    And that's that's rare. Like that is so

  1600. 58:02

    rare. Are you asked all the time if

  1601. 58:04

    there there'll be a more arcs or a

  1602. 58:07

    reboot or something?

  1603. 58:09

    I always feel like it's it's been it's

  1604. 58:11

    done. Like it was perfectly done. Like

  1605. 58:14

    how do you do that?

  1606. 58:14

    Perfectly. Maybe they should do like

  1607. 58:16

    Muppet Babies. They should do like parks

  1608. 58:18

    and wreck babies. Like everyone has

  1609. 58:19

    babies.

  1610. 58:20

    Like that Instagram thing where

  1611. 58:22

    everyone's

  1612. 58:23

    Oh, yeah. Yeah. AI babies. They should

  1613. 58:26

    do AI babies,

  1614. 58:27

    but like a whole series.

  1615. 58:28

    Yeah.

  1616. 58:29

    Of all of us just in a crib together.

  1617. 58:31

    Yeah. But they should do it like present

  1618. 58:33

    day where like the politics are really

  1619. 58:35

    dark

  1620. 58:36

    and mean. And so it should be like tiny

  1621. 58:39

    babies fighting each other.

  1622. 58:40

    They hate each other. It's like

  1623. 58:41

    apocalyptic political babies.

  1624. 58:45

    And they all like are like, "Oh no,

  1625. 58:48

    I hate you so much.

  1626. 58:49

    I hate you so much. Yay." I mean,

  1627. 58:51

    yay. I hate you. Because we made the

  1628. 58:54

    show in an era where public service was

  1629. 58:58

    encouraged and valued,

  1630. 58:59

    right?

  1631. 59:00

    And funded.

  1632. 59:01

    Yes.

  1633. 59:02

    It was or I mean, you know, I'm sure it

  1634. 59:04

    wasn't as funded as much as it should

  1635. 59:07

    have been, but it was funded at least.

  1636. 59:09

    Um, it's an entirely different I know

  1637. 59:12

    tone to American life. I know it's and

  1638. 59:15

    and you know the the

  1639. 59:18

    many fun town halls that we used to have

  1640. 59:21

    to do

  1641. 59:21

    were so fun to sit together and do those

  1642. 59:23

    and just have people like just come up

  1643. 59:25

    and score and be so funny.

  1644. 59:27

    The funniest people coming and doing

  1645. 59:29

    stuff on the show.

  1646. 59:30

    We had the best best rotating cast of

  1647. 59:33

    geniuses come through there. In fact, a

  1648. 59:35

    lot of people should know that at the

  1649. 59:36

    end of the year, we made a um the show

  1650. 59:39

    made like a yearbook.

  1651. 59:40

    Yeah.

  1652. 59:41

    Um and it was a list of every single

  1653. 59:43

    person that's been in the show. And by

  1654. 59:44

    the way, RIP. Um I know

  1655. 59:47

    Jonathan Joss,

  1656. 59:48

    Ken Hote,

  1657. 59:49

    what a sweetheart.

  1658. 59:50

    Sweet man. And

  1659. 59:52

    funny.

  1660. 59:52

    Very funny. And so sad for him and his

  1661. 59:54

    family and his husband. Yeah.

  1662. 59:56

    Um you know when you have that feeling

  1663. 59:57

    sometimes like you wish you could go

  1664. 59:58

    back to high school and enjoy it,

  1665. 1:00:00

    right?

  1666. 1:00:01

    That's how it felt like we actually got

  1667. 1:00:02

    to do it in real time.

  1668. 1:00:03

    Yeah. because it was genuinely goofy and

  1669. 1:00:07

    funny.

  1670. 1:00:08

    Yeah.

  1671. 1:00:08

    Like the best jokes.

  1672. 1:00:10

    Uh

  1673. 1:00:11

    what is your what is your one of your

  1674. 1:00:12

    favorite Jo what is one of the favorite

  1675. 1:00:14

    funny scenes you got to do? So many

  1676. 1:00:16

    so many. I mean I always think of you

  1677. 1:00:19

    guys on the on on the ice at the ice

  1678. 1:00:22

    skating rink with Gloria Stefon.

  1679. 1:00:24

    Yeah.

  1680. 1:00:24

    I mean that is I remember at the table

  1681. 1:00:26

    read that was we couldn't stop laughing

  1682. 1:00:29

    because it was so funny.

  1683. 1:00:31

    Yeah. Mike Scully wrote that episode and

  1684. 1:00:33

    Mike Skully Sebast,

  1685. 1:00:34

    we got to uh walk across that ice and I

  1686. 1:00:39

    remember just thinking this is so fun.

  1687. 1:00:41

    Oh my god, what a fun job.

  1688. 1:00:43

    I wasn't even in that scene.

  1689. 1:00:45

    Yeah, that's right. That's right. Sorry.

  1690. 1:00:47

    We should probably just Photoshop.

  1691. 1:00:49

    We should put me in that scene. That's

  1692. 1:00:50

    why I brought it up. I feel like it

  1693. 1:00:52

    would I I deserve it. You know, my kids

  1694. 1:00:55

    watched the the show during the pandemic

  1695. 1:00:57

    like everyone else did

  1696. 1:00:58

    and um I rewatched a lot of stuff and it

  1697. 1:01:01

    was so fun because I remembered the

  1698. 1:01:03

    feeling of how everything was to shoot

  1699. 1:01:05

    it,

  1700. 1:01:06

    but I didn't remember what was going to

  1701. 1:01:08

    happen.

  1702. 1:01:08

    It is weird to watch yourself doing

  1703. 1:01:10

    something and have no recollection of it

  1704. 1:01:13

    happening in in your life. It's so

  1705. 1:01:15

    strange.

  1706. 1:01:16

    I um What are you I ask this to

  1707. 1:01:19

    everybody like what are you laughing at

  1708. 1:01:20

    right now? I mean, first of all, you you

  1709. 1:01:22

    know, do you you're very serious now.

  1710. 1:01:26

    That's right. I don't Thank you for

  1711. 1:01:28

    acknowledging that I don't laugh

  1712. 1:01:30

    anymore.

  1713. 1:01:31

    I mean, you're all you're doing is

  1714. 1:01:32

    running and typing.

  1715. 1:01:35

    And if you'll I don't know if you

  1716. 1:01:37

    noticed, but while I'm running, I'm I'm

  1717. 1:01:39

    not laughing.

  1718. 1:01:40

    Not at all. I didn't see you crack a

  1719. 1:01:41

    smile once.

  1720. 1:01:42

    Cuz it's hard to laugh while you're

  1721. 1:01:44

    running because it's it's not funny.

  1722. 1:01:47

    You're running for your life.

  1723. 1:01:48

    That's right.

  1724. 1:01:49

    Yeah. I got to get there like as fast as

  1725. 1:01:51

    possible.

  1726. 1:01:51

    And again, I'd love to ask you where

  1727. 1:01:53

    where are you going?

  1728. 1:01:54

    Where am I going? Yeah,

  1729. 1:01:55

    I'm going down the hall.

  1730. 1:01:57

    Got to got to run down the hall. Um

  1731. 1:02:01

    what am I are you watching anything? Are

  1732. 1:02:04

    you like

  1733. 1:02:05

    anything like super funny?

  1734. 1:02:06

    Yeah. What are you like What are you and

  1735. 1:02:08

    Naomi liking right now or did you see

  1736. 1:02:10

    something recently or

  1737. 1:02:13

    You know what I've been watching

  1738. 1:02:14

    recently is I've been re-watching all

  1739. 1:02:17

    Sex in the City. The original.

  1740. 1:02:19

    Yeah. It's

  1741. 1:02:20

    incredible.

  1742. 1:02:21

    So [ __ ] good.

  1743. 1:02:23

    So good.

  1744. 1:02:24

    It is so good.

  1745. 1:02:26

    Such a love letter to that time period,

  1746. 1:02:28

    too.

  1747. 1:02:28

    Yes.

  1748. 1:02:29

    Were you ever on it? Cuz every act actor

  1749. 1:02:31

    I know is like Justin Thorough. Uh Bobby

  1750. 1:02:34

    Canavali.

  1751. 1:02:35

    Will.

  1752. 1:02:36

    Yep.

  1753. 1:02:37

    Everybody.

  1754. 1:02:38

    Yep. Um Slatterie.

  1755. 1:02:39

    Slatterie. Elizabeth Banks.

  1756. 1:02:41

    Yes. It's a real who's who.

  1757. 1:02:42

    Yeah. Everybody in New York. Um but it

  1758. 1:02:46

    is so good. And to to something I like

  1759. 1:02:49

    doing is watching it and just kind of

  1760. 1:02:50

    thinking about

  1761. 1:02:51

    all of this happening for the first

  1762. 1:02:53

    time, like women sitting at a table

  1763. 1:02:56

    together talking about

  1764. 1:02:59

    what whatever talking about themselves

  1765. 1:03:02

    and

  1766. 1:03:03

    talking about like how weird someone's

  1767. 1:03:06

    [ __ ] smells.

  1768. 1:03:08

    It's just like holy [ __ ] This is

  1769. 1:03:10

    incredible.

  1770. 1:03:12

    Like that has never been on TV before.

  1771. 1:03:16

    let alone said out loud for people and

  1772. 1:03:19

    just how Samantha is just

  1773. 1:03:22

    the most sex positive like incred like

  1774. 1:03:26

    not a moment of embarrassment

  1775. 1:03:29

    like so [ __ ] cool

  1776. 1:03:31

    so good

  1777. 1:03:32

    and Sarah Jessica Parker is so great at

  1778. 1:03:36

    being the center of a show

  1779. 1:03:38

    servicing everybody else but also

  1780. 1:03:41

    keeping that motor going in the middle

  1781. 1:03:43

    of it's so good

  1782. 1:03:45

    there's a couple shows that make me when

  1783. 1:03:46

    I'm in Los Angeles really miss New York.

  1784. 1:03:48

    Sex old Sex in the City and Law and

  1785. 1:03:50

    Order.

  1786. 1:03:51

    Oh, yeah. Sure.

  1787. 1:03:52

    Yeah.

  1788. 1:03:52

    Were you on Law and Order?

  1789. 1:03:53

    I was on Law and Order once.

  1790. 1:03:55

    So jealous.

  1791. 1:03:55

    You weren't on Law and Order.

  1792. 1:03:56

    No, that was my dream.

  1793. 1:03:58

    Really?

  1794. 1:03:59

    Never. I mean, I didn't see I wasn't

  1795. 1:04:01

    auditioning in that way. I didn't think

  1796. 1:04:02

    I was like a good enough actor, but I

  1797. 1:04:05

    wanted to be on Law and Order so bad.

  1798. 1:04:07

    Yeah. Yeah.

  1799. 1:04:09

    What was your character? Why do I not

  1800. 1:04:10

    know that you Law and Order? I should

  1801. 1:04:12

    know this.

  1802. 1:04:12

    Timothy Dinkens. I don't know what the

  1803. 1:04:15

    name was. Um,

  1804. 1:04:16

    we can look it up.

  1805. 1:04:17

    Uh, I was working at the grocery store

  1806. 1:04:21

    arranging fruits or vegetables when they

  1807. 1:04:23

    came up and first started talking to me.

  1808. 1:04:26

    And

  1809. 1:04:28

    I remember my agent at the time calling

  1810. 1:04:30

    me right after it aired and being like,

  1811. 1:04:32

    "You don't know how to handle those

  1812. 1:04:34

    vegetables."

  1813. 1:04:35

    Like, you weren't doing anything.

  1814. 1:04:37

    Was your Who were the peeps that was it?

  1815. 1:04:39

    Or the Orbeck years?

  1816. 1:04:40

    It was uh, no, it was Dennis Fina.

  1817. 1:04:43

    Dennis Fina

  1818. 1:04:43

    who was so cool

  1819. 1:04:45

    and uh Jesse Martin

  1820. 1:04:48

    fantastic.

  1821. 1:04:49

    Did you meet Esapatha who I Apath if you

  1822. 1:04:52

    if you're listening I need to get you on

  1823. 1:04:53

    the show.

  1824. 1:04:54

    She's great.

  1825. 1:04:54

    She's incredible.

  1826. 1:04:55

    Uh Sam Watston

  1827. 1:04:58

    Yeah.

  1828. 1:04:58

    So you went to the court. You got to you

  1829. 1:05:00

    got to the law the law part.

  1830. 1:05:02

    Pablo Shriber and I were in court

  1831. 1:05:04

    together and he ended up being guilty

  1832. 1:05:07

    and I was the red herring. I think

  1833. 1:05:09

    what were you accused of doing? probably

  1834. 1:05:12

    killing someone. I don't totally

  1835. 1:05:14

    remember.

  1836. 1:05:15

    Um, well, we're gonna watch.

  1837. 1:05:17

    You have your Are you finding my

  1838. 1:05:18

    character's name? And if it's Timothy,

  1839. 1:05:21

    whatever I said, that would be amazing.

  1840. 1:05:23

    Okay. Timothy Dinkens.

  1841. 1:05:25

    Yeah, Timothy Dinkens.

  1842. 1:05:27

    Was Adam Scott on law and order? Okay.

  1843. 1:05:32

    The trail leads to a pair of

  1844. 1:05:34

    perpetrators. another mercenary played

  1845. 1:05:36

    by Pablo Shriber and the brother of one

  1846. 1:05:39

    of Shriber's fellow mercenaries who was

  1847. 1:05:40

    killed in a roadside ambush by

  1848. 1:05:43

    presumably Al Qaeda.

  1849. 1:05:46

    God, I don't know.

  1850. 1:05:47

    The brother You forgot the Al Qaeda

  1851. 1:05:49

    part.

  1852. 1:05:49

    I did.

  1853. 1:05:50

    The brother is Adam Scott and he is the

  1854. 1:05:52

    only true innocent.

  1855. 1:05:53

    That's right.

  1856. 1:05:54

    And the own of the whole show.

  1857. 1:05:55

    That's right.

  1858. 1:05:57

    Wow. Wow. That's I wanted to play a um I

  1859. 1:06:01

    wanted to play the opposite. See,

  1860. 1:06:03

    because

  1861. 1:06:03

    you wanted to be a mermaid. to be like

  1862. 1:06:05

    the one that you would would not suspect

  1863. 1:06:07

    and then it's like I burned the whole

  1864. 1:06:09

    place.

  1865. 1:06:10

    I wanted to be a pyro cuz I felt like of

  1866. 1:06:13

    all

  1867. 1:06:13

    you wanted to specifically be a

  1868. 1:06:14

    pyromaniac.

  1869. 1:06:15

    I wish I wanted to be like a babyfaced

  1870. 1:06:17

    pyro, you know, someone who just is

  1871. 1:06:19

    like,

  1872. 1:06:21

    you know, she seems like she's helping

  1873. 1:06:22

    the police and then she's like they

  1874. 1:06:24

    deserved it. Yeah. You know, whatever

  1875. 1:06:25

    kind of weird psycho thing. Okay. So,

  1876. 1:06:27

    Sex in the City is what you're watching

  1877. 1:06:29

    and laughing at.

  1878. 1:06:30

    Yeah. I'm I It's great. I and you know

  1879. 1:06:34

    when you're I I saw something recently

  1880. 1:06:36

    that said that repeated if you have the

  1881. 1:06:38

    urge to watch something you've seen

  1882. 1:06:39

    before and repeat viewings is a sign of

  1883. 1:06:42

    a particular kind of intelligence.

  1884. 1:06:46

    Oh

  1885. 1:06:46

    yeah. No, this is real.

  1886. 1:06:48

    It's a sign of intelligence.

  1887. 1:06:49

    Intelligence. I saw this on

  1888. 1:06:53

    on Instagram. Did you see this on

  1889. 1:06:54

    on Instagram?

  1890. 1:06:55

    Okay. Yeah.

  1891. 1:06:56

    It just and it was a picture of someone

  1892. 1:06:57

    watching TV and it just said that. There

  1893. 1:07:00

    was no nothing to back it up and I was

  1894. 1:07:02

    like, "Oh, great. We watched more Sex in

  1895. 1:07:04

    the City."

  1896. 1:07:08

    You saw it on Dr. Instagram,

  1897. 1:07:09

    Frankie. My daughter and I just flew

  1898. 1:07:11

    together from New York like night before

  1899. 1:07:14

    last and we got on the plane and I got

  1900. 1:07:17

    in my seat and she was across the row

  1901. 1:07:18

    from me and I got in and like suddenly

  1902. 1:07:21

    and started watching Sex in the City

  1903. 1:07:23

    that I had downloaded cuz I and she was

  1904. 1:07:26

    like, "Dad, are you watching more Sex in

  1905. 1:07:29

    the City?"

  1906. 1:07:31

    Yeah.

  1907. 1:07:33

    I love you.

  1908. 1:07:34

    I love you, Amy. Thank you for having

  1909. 1:07:36

    me. This is so fun.

  1910. 1:07:37

    We were really excited to do this one

  1911. 1:07:38

    today. Oh, that's very nice. I love

  1912. 1:07:41

    being here. Thank you.

  1913. 1:07:42

    Come back when we do our big we'll do a

  1914. 1:07:44

    big park show

  1915. 1:07:45

    or we can do Philly justice again.

  1916. 1:07:50

    Today's Polar Plunge is brought to you

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    by Wayfair here to help you make your

  1918. 1:07:54

    home a happy place. Well, that was an

  1919. 1:07:57

    amazing episode with Adam. Uh we got uh

  1920. 1:08:00

    so deep. I love talking to him and um

  1921. 1:08:02

    he's just the best. and he mentioned uh

  1922. 1:08:04

    Six Feet Under, a show that he got close

  1923. 1:08:07

    to booking. And that did remind me of

  1924. 1:08:10

    the parks finale. You know, for people

  1925. 1:08:12

    that watch the end of parks and

  1926. 1:08:13

    recreation, Mike Sher and I were talking

  1927. 1:08:16

    about the idea that in comedies, you

  1928. 1:08:19

    don't always get to see um the future.

  1929. 1:08:21

    You don't always get to see what happens

  1930. 1:08:23

    to these characters that you've grown to

  1931. 1:08:25

    love. And so,

  1932. 1:08:27

    we were so blown away by the Six Feet

  1933. 1:08:29

    Under. I think we were heavily

  1934. 1:08:32

    influenced by the idea of that when we

  1935. 1:08:34

    wrote the finale of Parks and

  1936. 1:08:36

    Recreation. So, watch Six Feet Under.

  1937. 1:08:38

    And honestly, it's so good. I mean, and

  1938. 1:08:42

    better because Adam didn't get cast in

  1939. 1:08:44

    it. You know what I mean? Michael Hall

  1940. 1:08:45

    is incredible. So, um, you know, Adam's

  1941. 1:08:48

    loss is our win. And, um, and check that

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  1957. 1:09:26

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  1958. 1:09:28

    executive producers for this show are

  1959. 1:09:29

    Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss Berman, and me

  1960. 1:09:31

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  1966. 1:09:45

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  1967. 1:09:49

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